Dr_Jon

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Actually maybe one of the more interesting things here is how Canon's shiny new medical division seems to be doing well while Nikon's shiny new medical division appears to be more a cash sink. Olympus' medical division is also a cash cow (but unlike C+N they do really poorly with continuing losses on cameras). Interesting how camera companies seem to like medical...

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 10:20 UTC as 7th comment | 3 replies
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dansclic: People,buy Canon also because it is a whole,system : your canon printer is easy to use when pictures made with canon bodies, because of interaction. You can use - although this a nonsense size regarding - ef and efs lenses on your m5 which is not perfect and quite expensive compared to an Olympus omd em10 II.
You can also have relatively basic cheap lenses. Some primes are stabilized like the excellent 35 mm. But what I do not understand is why the bodies are so expensive. The 5 d series is much more expensive than Nikon and are selling better. I would say the d750 and 810 are better bargains.

BTW I went from 5DmkII to 5Dsr and found it a very good upgrade. The extra pixels means you get an APS camera thrown in for free to give extra reach for Wildlife (or just to carry less lenses), the AF is a big step up and I find it a great tool. Also more DR (maybe a stop). The 5DmkIV doesn't seem worth the current extra cost unless you need the Dual-Pixel AF.

I'd agree the D750 is generally better than the 5DmkIII, but the latter is a very old camera now. Also changing systems is a big cost and it's probably cheaper to just buy a better camera in your current system.

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 10:15 UTC
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ttran88: I did buy my first Canon this quarter. It's a Canon LS-100TSG. I did my share to contribute. Did you?

If you want a camera-as-a-tool Canon are good, others are better for gee-whiz stuff and emotional connections.

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 UTC
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Revenant: Solid demand for G series compacts, and yet Nikon cancelled the DL series because they didn't think demand would be strong enough.

Which is probably bad for 1-series owners expecting new stuff (as part of the cancellation was issues with the new 1" processing pipeline) but good for people wanting a Nikon APS mirrorless, which should be bookended with another "probably".

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 10:08 UTC
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noflashplease: Canon seems to be thriving as Nikon flounders.

Nikon still have some excellent cameras and make decent profits on their camera business (although they have lost quite a bit of market share). Their problems are more with the non-photo parts of the business. They probably need a good mirrorless entry to gain any market share though, so that could be interesting.

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 10:06 UTC
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rrccad: Missing from this was their ILC and Camera sales (why dpreview.. not sure.. )

ILC unit sales +6% over 1Q 2016.
Camera $ sales +10% (forex adjusted) over 1Q 2016.

http://www.canon.com/ir/conference/pdf/conf2017q1e.pdf

They are still a bit bearish about fiscal 2017 though predicting a 7% loss in unit sales against a market decline of 5%. it will be curious if they end up beating that.

Apparently they aren't listening the forum warrior experts.

The issue is more that they make a lot more profit on their 50% than all they others make on theirs, a really large amount more. Also if we're talking about missing numbers how about the 49% increase on profit year-on-year (for the quarter, that is).

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 10:04 UTC
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citrate: Surprised to see "mirrorless cameras are helping drive the company's camera sales." !
So Canon will push more on developing mirrorless cameras?
How about Nikon then?

They went from nowhere in mirrorless to #2 (having just about overtaken Oly as their sales fell) so it's an easy way to grow, having the vast bulk of DSLR sales makes growth tricky. (It's a bit like if I started selling a camera I could claim to have the World's fastest growing camera company, sell 1 in month 1; 3 in month 2; 20 in month 3 and I'm at 2000% growth. See Canon doing that to their 5.7M ILC camera sales. Gotta love statistics - BTW a good read is the book "How to Lie with Statistics".)

Oh and I do think a Nikon APS mirrorless can't be that far away, but wonder if they will protect low-end DSLR sales by keeping prices high as they did last time.

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 10:01 UTC
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beavertown: Canon is like the number one camera giant of Apple that will never die like the phoenix. Number two Sony will always be number two.

Canon sell about half the ILC cameras Worldwide (5.7M out of 11.5M), Nikon a quarter, Sony an Eighth and everyone else shares the remaining Eighth.

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 09:55 UTC
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Edmond Leung: A successful company is not wholly rely on new technologies and new products. They are success because of their service, their markeing strategy, their management team, their people, their financial strength...
That's why Canon is still the leader in the market and a profit making company.
In view of Canon's bright future, it looks right to invest in their stock and looking for good returns.

They say they are selling a lot of 5D4s, so yet again a couple of people complaining on forums is not really relevant. Canon's main Ninja skills are making stuff people will buy (vs. people who wouldn't buy it saying so) and making money selling it. Nikon used to be really good at this and in DSLRs are still really good. Ditto Leica. Less so everyone else. Sony are showing the most promise to join them.

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 09:54 UTC
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grimlock361: Wait? Nikon gets extraordinary losses but canon profits increase. Nooooooooooooo. I guess dynamic range isn't everything. If only DXO did financial reports things would look different.

If you read the article Canon's camera sales are increasing, but they think they will fall somewhat in the future, partly due to Sony getting over the Earthquake effects. Comparing this quarter with the same one last year (Worldwide) interchangeable lens camera sales were up 6% on a volume basis, total camera sales were up 7.4%, and profits from the Photo group were up 49%.

Also an "Extraordinary" loss is one not from the main ongoing business but a one-off (as different to a "huge" loss). In Nikon's case the Imaging group made pretty decent profits on the year, the "extraordinary" cost was early retirements for a number of people (which is cost-beneficial in the long run, well provided you keep the good people) and an inventory write down in a non-photography part of Nikon.

BTW they didn't mention Canon's Imaging group profits are up 49% year-on-year, I guess that sort of stuff is Sony-only (note tongue firmly in cheek and big grin on face).

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 09:49 UTC
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dansclic: People,buy Canon also because it is a whole,system : your canon printer is easy to use when pictures made with canon bodies, because of interaction. You can use - although this a nonsense size regarding - ef and efs lenses on your m5 which is not perfect and quite expensive compared to an Olympus omd em10 II.
You can also have relatively basic cheap lenses. Some primes are stabilized like the excellent 35 mm. But what I do not understand is why the bodies are so expensive. The 5 d series is much more expensive than Nikon and are selling better. I would say the d750 and 810 are better bargains.

It's how long ago they were released, cameras start priced as expensive as they can charge and still sell all they are making, then they decline. (They are in the business to make money, if they have any sense.) Also exchange rates and how closely you follow them play a big part (the manufacturers will hedge against them to many months in the future, so there's quite some lag in that).

Actually Canon is most noticeable for not adjusting the recommended selling price all that much, so it gradually creeps away from the street price.

If you want a cheaper 5DIV just wait until supply overtakes demand.

The 5Dsr was launched at £3200 (I paid £3100 for mine, which was a super deal at the time) but can be had for £2900 now despite the exchange rate going south - it was about 193 to the £ when I bought mine and is 142 now, climbing from even lower, so £3200 then would be £4000 now (assuming two thirds of the cost is in Yen) and £2900 looks a pretty big discount.

Link | Posted on Apr 27, 2017 at 09:40 UTC
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justmeMN: I think Nikon needs an APS-C mirrorless camera. That sensor size is where the biggest ILC sales volume is.

Canon are selling a lot of mirrorless APS cameras and Nikon are presumably screwed in 1" (as the DL failed partly due to technical issues and I doubt they have two 1" pipelines under development) so I'd assume they must be considering something else and APS is the most likely (they're surely not just leaving Canon to it). The trick is not to screw 3xxx and 5xxx sales while they are selling by the boat-load (I'd be surprised if it wasn't in 7 figures) and so making them lots of money. It's a tricky one. I think the previous approach of high pricing would be brave, but possible as high cost mirrorless is a bit of a thing now. Surely won't be that many more months...

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 23:47 UTC
On article Sony a9: Why being better might not be enough (754 comments in total)
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Full Stop: .
It would be smart if SONY made all the "important" lenses one stop slower
than CaNikon.
50% less weight, cost, size (volume).
With a
24-70mm/4,
70-200mm/4
300mm/4,
400mm/4,
600mm/5,6
they would have a REAL weight- & size-advantage.
50% less light should be no problem for this new sensor.

The whole system would make more sense.
Perhaps even attract some µFT guys as the A9 itself is the size
of a GH5 / EM-1 Mk2.

"50% less light should be no problem for this new sensor."

I think you're confusing DR, which is mostly irrelevant to Sports shooters (it's the noise in the shadows) with amount of light captured (more means less noise). BSI only helps a tiny bit with large sensors, as the micro-lenses and light-pipes already do a good job and not much goes missing. (BTW BSI is usually very bad for astronomers, as the dark current is usually quite a bit higher.) The strength of the colour filters (purity, if you prefer) is probably as much if not more of a factor.

Almost all of the light captured is just controlled by aperture (as wide as possible) and shutter speed (as slow as you can get away with, which usually is pretty fast).

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 23:40 UTC
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emxgarcia: Could go with Professional Olympus gear.
Three (3) bodies and 7 unparalleled lenses. Total USD 16,351.00.
Upgrade cost, total of USD 4,531.00

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II Body x 3
Olympus HLD-9 Power Battery Grip x 3
Olympus BLH-1 Lithium-Ion Battery (7.4V, 1720mAh) x 6 (9 total)
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 7-14mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 40-1500mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-100mm f/4 IS PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 8mm f/1.8 Fisheye PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 25mm f/1.2 PRO Lens

MShot - I would agree that noise is usually subjective and I make that point quite a bit in the forums here (e.g. see the first * here: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58895877 ), including how the acceptable level can vary shot-to-shot according to how that shot will be cropped and used. However in this case it's more complicated as the picture editor has to agree with you... plus a few others as well if there is a lot of noise...

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 19:07 UTC
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rfsIII: Ah, panoramic photography—I remember it well. Those were the days when sites would publish huge charts containing the nodal points of every lens made and there were millions of brackets and panning heads.
But the software was not quite ready and early DSLR panos always looked very odd to me because they were rendered a little too accurately. All those swooping lines.
The real question: Will this gadget produce better photos than the panoramic mode on the iPhone?

My point is I still see it that way... I can tell you the no-parallax point of some of my lenses too, although I will probably find better things to do than get involved in explaining why I didn't call it the nodal point... :-)

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 19:05 UTC
On article Alpha-better: Sony a9 versus a7R II (426 comments in total)
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Dr_Jon: "The a7R II impressed us when it was released, offering probably the best all-around AF performance of any full-frame mirrorless camera."
Such a large field... err... Sony and Leica...?

I just saw it as overdoing it in the interest of hyperbole, so thought I could have a little fun making a valid point.

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 18:59 UTC
On article Alpha-better: Sony a9 versus a7R II (426 comments in total)

"The a7R II impressed us when it was released, offering probably the best all-around AF performance of any full-frame mirrorless camera."
Such a large field... err... Sony and Leica...?

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 12:34 UTC as 118th comment | 2 replies
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rfsIII: Ah, panoramic photography—I remember it well. Those were the days when sites would publish huge charts containing the nodal points of every lens made and there were millions of brackets and panning heads.
But the software was not quite ready and early DSLR panos always looked very odd to me because they were rendered a little too accurately. All those swooping lines.
The real question: Will this gadget produce better photos than the panoramic mode on the iPhone?

Actually I just shoot panos without a tripod (or head, obviously) and find the software is really good (oh and my Acratech GP head does do the upside-down trick too, but I don't use it that way).
http://www.viewat.org/?i=en&id_aut=7366&id_pn=26484&md=vt&sec=pn

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 12:29 UTC
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emxgarcia: Could go with Professional Olympus gear.
Three (3) bodies and 7 unparalleled lenses. Total USD 16,351.00.
Upgrade cost, total of USD 4,531.00

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II Body x 3
Olympus HLD-9 Power Battery Grip x 3
Olympus BLH-1 Lithium-Ion Battery (7.4V, 1720mAh) x 6 (9 total)
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 7-14mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 40-1500mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-100mm f/4 IS PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 8mm f/1.8 Fisheye PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 25mm f/1.2 PRO Lens

The most recent m43 camera I have is the GH4, which isn't at all good at ISO 3200. Plus since all the noise is in the light (in this scenario) the only way to handle it is with noise reduction, so then it becomes a case of how people feel about the down-sides of that (artefacts, reduced detail, etc.) and whether you're going with JPEGs or Raws, which is two different noise reduction routes entirely (plus sharpening, "look", etc.)
Also it's a good point that if you need a 300mm on FF (per the article) then the m43 300 isn't what you want as the FoV is just too small (I use an adapted 350 on the GH4 sometimes, but it's really tight on the subject and it can be hard to just find stuff, let alone track).
If you use the 40-150 then you get to just the 2 stops and 2x the noise. Which again is then back to how you feel about the noise reduction (especially if you are in a hurry).
(BTW FF vs m43 compare FoV not "detail on subject" as my m43 @ 300 actually resolves less than the 5Dsr @ 300.)

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 12:21 UTC
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emxgarcia: Could go with Professional Olympus gear.
Three (3) bodies and 7 unparalleled lenses. Total USD 16,351.00.
Upgrade cost, total of USD 4,531.00

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II Body x 3
Olympus HLD-9 Power Battery Grip x 3
Olympus BLH-1 Lithium-Ion Battery (7.4V, 1720mAh) x 6 (9 total)
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 7-14mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 40-1500mm f/2.8 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12-100mm f/4 IS PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 8mm f/1.8 Fisheye PRO Lens
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 25mm f/1.2 PRO Lens

The 300mm captures 1/8 the light of the Canon so you get 2.8x the noise, which in a stadium shooting at ISO 3200+ you'll notice. (Unless you're lifting the shadows the noise all comes in with the light and is a smaller part of it as you capture more of it).

Link | Posted on Apr 25, 2017 at 18:20 UTC
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