The Squire

The Squire

Lives in United Kingdom Bath, United Kingdom
Works as a Professional Coffee Drinker and Pixel Manipulator
Joined on Mar 30, 2007

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On article Sony a9 Full Review: Mirrorless Redefined (2668 comments in total)
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surlezi: People here talk about camera, and comparison of camera. Now with this one, it's all down to electronics. The sensor is 90% of this camera, and most of what's amazing in it is because of its electronics.

The body itself is nothing. I'm not sure why Sony won't make a flawless body. Minolta (bought by Sony) already made better bodies 13 years ago with Dynax Maxxum 7D, with dials and ergonomics way better than what they have on A7/A9. I guess it's a way for to leave room for improvment, because with such sensors, customers would'nt be upgrading in a long while.

You can definitely get ergonomics like grips wrong (see Sony's early RX100 designs with slippy slidey metal cases and barely a postage stamp sized grippy rubber pad on the back).

But to say DSLRs have been getting grips 'right' is misleading. There's no 'right'. Every DSLR review I read debates the pros and cons of the grip for various users (big hands, small hands), use cases (with or without big lenses) and bodie sizes. There is not definitive 'right' body design. All are compromises.

Link | Posted on Jun 15, 2017 at 10:42 UTC
On article Sony a9 Full Review: Mirrorless Redefined (2668 comments in total)
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surlezi: People here talk about camera, and comparison of camera. Now with this one, it's all down to electronics. The sensor is 90% of this camera, and most of what's amazing in it is because of its electronics.

The body itself is nothing. I'm not sure why Sony won't make a flawless body. Minolta (bought by Sony) already made better bodies 13 years ago with Dynax Maxxum 7D, with dials and ergonomics way better than what they have on A7/A9. I guess it's a way for to leave room for improvment, because with such sensors, customers would'nt be upgrading in a long while.

I have the Sony A700 which is essentially a Minolta body design and, of course, its a stills camera only and does it really well.

IN terms of physical buttons, a Sony A9 needs only a few more than and an old Minolta: Video; EVF/OVF selection; A couple of Custom buttons for all the tweaking a modern camera supports....

An A9 needs updated ergonomics for existing functions like AF control - How do you control a gazillion AF points with a dozen AF modes, compared to a Minolta with 9 AF points and three AF modes?

SO, physically, there's not a huge amount of extra controls needed, but DSLR bodies where already getting pretty busy. Small mirrorless bodies, with bigger articulated screens make the design challenges significantly different.

Im certainly not saying Sony has got it right with the A9, Im pointing out that the reason they havent got it right is because you cant rely on 10-20 year old ergonomics for a modern camera.

Link | Posted on Jun 15, 2017 at 10:37 UTC
On article Sony a9 Full Review: Mirrorless Redefined (2668 comments in total)
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surlezi: People here talk about camera, and comparison of camera. Now with this one, it's all down to electronics. The sensor is 90% of this camera, and most of what's amazing in it is because of its electronics.

The body itself is nothing. I'm not sure why Sony won't make a flawless body. Minolta (bought by Sony) already made better bodies 13 years ago with Dynax Maxxum 7D, with dials and ergonomics way better than what they have on A7/A9. I guess it's a way for to leave room for improvment, because with such sensors, customers would'nt be upgrading in a long while.

13 year old camera bodies dont work with modern camera capabilities. They evolved over many years to serve the function of still photography. Today, a camera does much more than stills, and has many other functions and features that the user may need to interact with at different stages in their workflow. So, you cant say camera designed was 'done' 13 years ago.

Link | Posted on Jun 15, 2017 at 08:50 UTC

Good news for photogs - HEVC becoming a 'native' option in macos,
Uninspiring news - Curves and selective color being the 'highlights' of the (lack of) improvements to Photos.

Link | Posted on Jun 6, 2017 at 09:10 UTC as 36th comment
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Boissez: Wow. 10-bit 4K 60p and a useful compressed RAW format as well as nifty SD-card friendly formats for ENG. All in camera. Can't ask for more.

Getty (for example) will accept 4k 4:2:2 8bit files, so as long as the bit rate is there and you dont *need* 10/12bit to post-process in to a usable 8bit output, then you're good to go.

Link | Posted on Jun 2, 2017 at 08:06 UTC
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Roland Schulz: Unluckily again no real/effective 4K/UHD due to debayering of only a 8.8MP sensor!!
Would have liked to see something like Sony does in the a6300/6500 with downsampling from a 20MP 16:9 crop (which actually unluckily comes to stronger rolling shutter effects due to limited readout speed etc.). This really shows a difference!!
But beside that for sure a stunning piece of a camera!!

I think you answered your own question there. 8.8MP APSC should give better rolling shutter, all other things being equal. Canon has never been one to pursue absolute sharpness in their video, and I suspect a lot of people are happy to trade that for less jello.

Link | Posted on Jun 1, 2017 at 07:29 UTC
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The Squire: 5.7k is an encouraging development. 4k just ain't good enough for 360 video.

True. A lot of consumer hardware a couple of years old struggles with 4K let alone 5.7K. But you really need to exceed 4K for even vaguely good 360 image quality.

I need someone smarter than me to work this out: If Im viewing a 360 video and I want the image quality of any given field of view to approximate 1080p, what resolution does the full 360 source need to be?

I suspect the answer is even more than 5.7k....

Link | Posted on May 26, 2017 at 08:16 UTC

5.7k is an encouraging development. 4k just ain't good enough for 360 video.

Link | Posted on May 24, 2017 at 11:29 UTC as 14th comment | 3 replies
On article Facebook Live: Sony a9 impressions so far (104 comments in total)

Seems like a good idea considering a lot of people are on FB.

I'd rather Rishi just Skyped me directly though.

Link | Posted on May 24, 2017 at 09:59 UTC as 48th comment
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HBowman: "Does this guarantee immediate great lens choice or a perpetually second-rate experience ? "

C'mon... Do you really think, Richard, that Canon or Nikon will come with a "second-rate" experience camera ? they had a lot of time to learn on the concurrence.

This question is too brutal.

Perpetually and second rate ... change that !!

Product segmentation by crippling. It is quite a normal practice. I would suggest Canon are pretty heavy handed with their 'market segmentation' mainly to protect revenues from high-end systems. Specifically, the choice not to offer 4k below pro-level systems, and the one enthusiast system with 4k is, literally, crippled with a hard-to-use MJPEG codec

Link | Posted on May 24, 2017 at 08:14 UTC
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The Squire: It's not time to ditch Canon’s EF-M mount.

It's time to ditch Canon.

Just make a clean break.

Ok, blatant trolling, but how much patience do people have? Canon might do something surprisingly good. I think the most optimistic thing I read in Richards article is maybe they are so slow to market because they have been busy solving the PDAF/CDAF challenges. But past form suggests otherwise.

So we can either trust in Canon. Or choose a new system now that meets your needs.

Link | Posted on May 23, 2017 at 12:25 UTC
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HBowman: "Does this guarantee immediate great lens choice or a perpetually second-rate experience ? "

C'mon... Do you really think, Richard, that Canon or Nikon will come with a "second-rate" experience camera ? they had a lot of time to learn on the concurrence.

This question is too brutal.

Perpetually and second rate ... change that !!

Sony is selling more mirrorless than Nikon ;)

Link | Posted on May 23, 2017 at 12:21 UTC
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HBowman: "Does this guarantee immediate great lens choice or a perpetually second-rate experience ? "

C'mon... Do you really think, Richard, that Canon or Nikon will come with a "second-rate" experience camera ? they had a lot of time to learn on the concurrence.

This question is too brutal.

Perpetually and second rate ... change that !!

It is of course up to Canon to prove him wrong, but Richard laid out a strong argument that the confluence of technology/marketing/economics could result in a less than optimal set of products from Canon... At least in terms of what they end up offering entry-level and enthusiast buyers.

Past form? Certainly. Canon regularly cripple upper/mid-range enthusiast products to protect their professional revenues.

Link | Posted on May 23, 2017 at 12:02 UTC

It's not time to ditch Canon’s EF-M mount.

It's time to ditch Canon.

Just make a clean break.

Link | Posted on May 23, 2017 at 11:59 UTC as 173rd comment | 2 replies

What, no 4K? At that price?!?

Link | Posted on May 10, 2017 at 12:27 UTC as 62nd comment
On article Canon EOS Rebel T7i / 800D review (386 comments in total)
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The Squire: When does 1080p start to hold back Canon's sales? 2015? 2016? Surely by 2017 the family/student photographer appreciates video quality enough to look for a camera that supports 4K (like their smartphone already offers, or their GoPro....).

I understand the marketing/economics driving Canon's thinking on this, but I'm bemused that they still think it works to their benefit....

So.... If Canon has decided the audience for this camera doesn't need 4k video... why bother giving them 24MP stills? They're not shooting for billboard advertisements are they? Heck, Canon should do them a favor and give them 8MP so as not to confuse them or over-tax their little Mac Airs, right?

Link | Posted on May 8, 2017 at 08:14 UTC
On article Canon EOS Rebel T7i / 800D review (386 comments in total)
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The Squire: When does 1080p start to hold back Canon's sales? 2015? 2016? Surely by 2017 the family/student photographer appreciates video quality enough to look for a camera that supports 4K (like their smartphone already offers, or their GoPro....).

I understand the marketing/economics driving Canon's thinking on this, but I'm bemused that they still think it works to their benefit....

Aaah, the old "our customers don't actually want more quality" argument.

Link | Posted on May 5, 2017 at 08:33 UTC
On article Canon EOS Rebel T7i / 800D review (386 comments in total)

When does 1080p start to hold back Canon's sales? 2015? 2016? Surely by 2017 the family/student photographer appreciates video quality enough to look for a camera that supports 4K (like their smartphone already offers, or their GoPro....).

I understand the marketing/economics driving Canon's thinking on this, but I'm bemused that they still think it works to their benefit....

Link | Posted on May 4, 2017 at 08:35 UTC as 37th comment | 6 replies
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sobermeier: Great Job, but it is obvious that even 12k are not enough to have a sharp 360° video - Maybe something around 24k will start to look good.

I think the problem is that YouTube renders it at a highly compressed 4K.

4K 360 videos gives you less than HD resolution in any one field of view.

Link | Posted on May 3, 2017 at 13:57 UTC
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RedFox88: How much is sony paying DPR for all this a9 propaganda?

They now indicate at the end (at least) of an article if it's sponsored. See all the recent Canon articles.

Link | Posted on May 2, 2017 at 10:31 UTC
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