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On article Alpha-better: Sony a9 versus a7R II (503 comments in total)
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rubank: Samsung NX-1 came years ago, with specs in some ways better compared to the new Sony, together with (only) two excellent lenses. Still, they didn´t make it in the market. Why would Sony A9?

Why? All Sony cameras outsold Samsung 10 to 1 according to Flickr stats for past several years, so your comparison is idiotic. Sony isn't Samsung

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 14:37 UTC
On article Alpha-better: Sony a9 versus a7R II (503 comments in total)
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Azimuth46: The real big problem with Sony A9 is not performance but price. Specs are excellent but they are nothing more than specs of an high-level full frame DSLR.

Like a Canon 5Dmk4 or a Nikon D810 to name a few. So the price should be around 3500$ to be competitive, and not 4500$ or even 5300€ as it's in EU. What this camera is capable of is simply what a very good DSRL is already been able of. Just in an EVIL body. Apart from 20fps, which frankly are not so interesting even for sport pro shooters who rarely shoot more than 8fps because they have really short time to review all their footage.

And probably it will sell very well for a very short period of time then it will lose its value just because of what I've said. Time will tell.

For me it seems to be ah hell of a camera but it's truly overpriced.

"Canon 5Dmk4 or a Nikon D810"

A7Rii has better specs than both of these cameras (higher resolution, better sensor, better video) A9 has better specs than 1Dx and D5, both more expensive than A9.

Link | Posted on Apr 26, 2017 at 14:29 UTC

A $20 bill and a few $1 bills as a background image? Didn't you guys have a few $100 bills to use?

Link | Posted on Apr 25, 2017 at 23:43 UTC as 84th comment | 3 replies
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Sdaniella: OK
Sony has baited you with a new FF A9 as "pro sports" 24mp hi-continuous 20fps

thus, elevating what essentially is

Full-Res 24mp MJPEG (or Compressed RAW) VIDEO @ 20p (no audio; no s-log) w/AF-C
Full-Res 24mp UN-compressed RAW VIDEO @ ONLY 12p (no audio; no s-log) w/AF-C

to "pro sports" STILLS status ... impressive ?

nope. this is just PR fancy talk
i.e. 24mp hi-res but ultra LOW frame rate video (no audio)

thus making even the humble EOS 5DMkIV dSLR with mere 4k MJPEG VIDEO
also elevated to "pro sports" status !
gee, thank you SONY "fancy PR"!

albeit, PRO SPORTS w/Touch Screen PDAF (Subject Follow; Cinematic AF Racking)
with audio @ 24 fps, 25fps (PAL), 30 fps (NTSC)*
without audio @ 50 fps (PAL), 60 fps (NTSC)* =WOW!
*optional C-Log (*yay*)

who needs
RAW (compressed or uncompresssed) or JPEG FF full-res 30Mp STILLS @ 7fps ?
when 4k MJPEG will do fine for PRO SPORTS!
5DMkIV
24 fps w/audio
60 fps w/o audio
use lighter (wider) FL lens (1.641x crop)

pick still frame "as needed"

Sdaniell, pro sports only shoot jpegs. They don't shoot raw, as they are sending thousands of images sometimes live and some time with strict time restrictions. So 20 fps jpegs is just fine for pro sports shooter. A9 even does compressed raw with 20 fps, which won't be used by pro shooters anyway, as they are shooting jpegs. Same is true with news photographers. They are sending thousands of jpegs to editors quickly for publications right away, as as news is either live or is being published in hours. No raws are used there.

20 fps jpegs and compressed raws is something no other FF camera can do.

Link | Posted on Apr 25, 2017 at 16:30 UTC
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Paul B Jones: I had a thought today (happens sometimes) and that is that the more diversified a company is, the more likely it is to abruptly drop its camera component if profits falter there. That makes Sony and Canon as likely candidates as any to say goodbye to cameras, and Nikon less likely to bail. Highly diversified Samsung was building great cameras, but wasn't making money off them - so bye-bye.

The division that made broadcast equipment (CineAlta, FS7, all another kind of broadcast gear) and still camera division like that which makes Alpha and cybershot merged as one "Imaging division" in 2012

https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/27/2905412/sony-management-structure-change-announcement

"Under the new plan, the separate professional and consumer product and service groups will disappear, which is probably what gave rise to the aspirational name. "

Sony has never lost money in Imaging Division. The sensors did lose money though (and was different division).

Link | Posted on Apr 24, 2017 at 11:28 UTC
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Paul B Jones: I had a thought today (happens sometimes) and that is that the more diversified a company is, the more likely it is to abruptly drop its camera component if profits falter there. That makes Sony and Canon as likely candidates as any to say goodbye to cameras, and Nikon less likely to bail. Highly diversified Samsung was building great cameras, but wasn't making money off them - so bye-bye.

Fujica, you are a liar. If you had been working for them, you would not have been posting nonense. Sensors were under devices division which has lost money. The pro video division (which makes broadcast cameras and other broadcast equipment) merged with still cameras division and were renamed Imaging division a few years ago. Stop being a moron, dude. Don't post about topics you know nothing about. I never said sensors were under Imaging division. Sensors lost money and were a different division.

Link | Posted on Apr 24, 2017 at 11:17 UTC
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Paul B Jones: I had a thought today (happens sometimes) and that is that the more diversified a company is, the more likely it is to abruptly drop its camera component if profits falter there. That makes Sony and Canon as likely candidates as any to say goodbye to cameras, and Nikon less likely to bail. Highly diversified Samsung was building great cameras, but wasn't making money off them - so bye-bye.

Fujica, it's not a separate division. All of them (pro video, stills) merged as one called Imaging division a few years ago, and no Sony has not lost money in Imaging division for several years. Look it up. They did lose money on sensors, even last year or a year before they lost money in Devices division, and sensors were part of that division.

Link | Posted on Apr 23, 2017 at 19:35 UTC
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Paul B Jones: I had a thought today (happens sometimes) and that is that the more diversified a company is, the more likely it is to abruptly drop its camera component if profits falter there. That makes Sony and Canon as likely candidates as any to say goodbye to cameras, and Nikon less likely to bail. Highly diversified Samsung was building great cameras, but wasn't making money off them - so bye-bye.

Still cameras are an integral part of pro imaging division as video and stills are integrating, all the way down to sensors and imaging processors, both use same parts. There is no separation. That's one of the reasons these cameras aren't disappearing in your lifetime. The whole division has been profitable (unlike sensor where they have lost money several times).

Link | Posted on Apr 23, 2017 at 17:57 UTC
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Paul B Jones: I had a thought today (happens sometimes) and that is that the more diversified a company is, the more likely it is to abruptly drop its camera component if profits falter there. That makes Sony and Canon as likely candidates as any to say goodbye to cameras, and Nikon less likely to bail. Highly diversified Samsung was building great cameras, but wasn't making money off them - so bye-bye.

Sony Digital Imaging includes all the pro gear they make for Holywood and broadcast industry. It's a core part of their business. Plus it's been profitable for last 5 years. It's not going anywhere in your lifetime.

Devices division (sensors were part of that division) did lose money a few times last 5 years, but Imaging division did not.

Link | Posted on Apr 23, 2017 at 17:18 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1905 comments in total)
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falconeyes: > The new α9 also supports uncompressed 14-bit RAW, ensuring users can get the most out of the wide dynamic range of the sensor.

Still no lossless compressed raw.

falconeyes, is no one using D810 and K1 in studio with this technique as both do 5 fps, same as A9. A9 can do 20 fps where flash isn't used, something the other two cameras can't do.

Link | Posted on Apr 23, 2017 at 16:31 UTC
On article Sony a9 first look videos (301 comments in total)
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AdrianPocea: I just bought my Canon 5D Mark 4 and my gh5 recently for the same price as a Sony A9 with a battery grip . Both have great battery life , dual card slots and while Sony must be a great camera at least on paper because nobody tried it yet there is no way that this camera would be better than my both bodies combined that I have right now , which are pretty much at the top of the food chain in photography and videography so happy buying group Sony

On the other hand, I would rather carry one small camera than two large cameras everywhere I go. Even then, I am pretty sure lowlight video on A9 beats both cameras.

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 18:19 UTC
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walgarch: Seriously guys, how long have people been saying Pentax is doomed? We're at 'the boy who cried wolf' levels now. The camera market has been a mess for years now, and Pentax has stuck around. I'm really not sure what kind of proof you guys need anymore lol

You can still post there, or email admins Simon Joinson

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 13:02 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1905 comments in total)
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Biowizard: CIPA Battery Life of 650; max 20 FPS shooting rate ... Yikes! I could drain that battery flat in 32.5 seconds! Wonder how warm it would get?!

Brian

Nomoreheroes

https://twitter.com/dpreview/status/855156759446638593

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 04:49 UTC
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walgarch: Seriously guys, how long have people been saying Pentax is doomed? We're at 'the boy who cried wolf' levels now. The camera market has been a mess for years now, and Pentax has stuck around. I'm really not sure what kind of proof you guys need anymore lol

You can always report Mako to DPR admins. Use feedback forum to complain

Link | Posted on Apr 21, 2017 at 04:48 UTC
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KyleSlamchez: Okay, hold the phone! The actual full specifications state that it only shoots 5fps with the physical shutter. Five frames per second!

The Nikon D5 shoots 12fps. The Canon 1DX II shoots 14fps!

I thought something was goofy. This is looking more and more like just an a7s ii with dual card slots, a larger buffer, and less resolution.

https://twitter.com/dpreview/status/855078961193385984

Link | Posted on Apr 20, 2017 at 18:20 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1905 comments in total)
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Biowizard: CIPA Battery Life of 650; max 20 FPS shooting rate ... Yikes! I could drain that battery flat in 32.5 seconds! Wonder how warm it would get?!

Brian

https://twitter.com/tonynorthrup/status/855103932716244992

"Sony a9 battery life: 2 hours of shooting, 4500 shots, 66% battery left "

Link | Posted on Apr 20, 2017 at 17:04 UTC
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KyleSlamchez: Okay, hold the phone! The actual full specifications state that it only shoots 5fps with the physical shutter. Five frames per second!

The Nikon D5 shoots 12fps. The Canon 1DX II shoots 14fps!

I thought something was goofy. This is looking more and more like just an a7s ii with dual card slots, a larger buffer, and less resolution.

"I'd much rather have 12-14fps with full image quality than 20fps with significant limitation"

However, Sony claims the image quality with electronic shutter is identical to physical shutter. Physical shutter is optional for things like flash photography.

Link | Posted on Apr 20, 2017 at 16:47 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1905 comments in total)
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Biowizard: CIPA Battery Life of 650; max 20 FPS shooting rate ... Yikes! I could drain that battery flat in 32.5 seconds! Wonder how warm it would get?!

Brian

Deliverator, the grip would double the battery life also.

Link | Posted on Apr 20, 2017 at 16:44 UTC
On article Sony a9 first look videos (301 comments in total)
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PhotoKhan: As a Canon user, I simply cannot understand the few criticisms that are thrown around in these comments. The specifications are a complete blast. Period.

If the camera lives on to those specs is something to be ascertained and commented when the testing is done. For the moment, any criticism reads like "sour grapes", really.

How can the MP count be brought along when the competition maxes at 19 and 21MP?

How can anything be said about the AF specifications, when almost full coverage of a scene is offered, something that anyone who has ever done a modicum of action photography, be it Nature or Sports, knows exactly how important it is.

(cont.)

Sony has not lost money on their camera business for last 5 years. Ricoh, however, has lost money (a lot of money) on cameras according to last week report.

Sony has sold 10 times more A7RII than Ricoh sold K1 for double the price (see Flickr stats) and they won't have any problem finding some professionals and enthusiasts who will buy A9 for $4.5K. No problem whatsoever.

There are plenty of people lined up for preorders this Friday.

Link | Posted on Apr 20, 2017 at 14:30 UTC
On article The Sony a9 is a 24MP sports-shooting powerhouse (1905 comments in total)
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Biowizard: CIPA Battery Life of 650; max 20 FPS shooting rate ... Yikes! I could drain that battery flat in 32.5 seconds! Wonder how warm it would get?!

Brian

CIPA Battery Life of 650. CIPA isn't shooting in burst mode. In burst mode, you can take several thousand images. Learn what CIPA standards is before posting comments making yourself look like an idiot.

Link | Posted on Apr 20, 2017 at 13:44 UTC
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