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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

The point remains that Dxo is more scientific than an internet troll who has posted no proof of raws and no proof the conditions were same and is blowing just hot air.

"I'm not the only one saying the Df is a better high ISO camera."

Post proof. Quote these other sources.

A7s has 1/3 stop advantage over Df, according to dxomark, the only scientific source, and according to the studio shots on dozens of websites, including DPreview.

Link | Posted on Sep 13, 2015 at 16:33 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

A7s has 1/3 stop advantage over Df, according to dxomark, the only scientific source, and according to the studio shots on dozens of websites, including DPreview.

Link | Posted on Sep 13, 2015 at 06:39 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

(1) Providing raw will be first step.
(2) Next step will be showing that conditions and lighting were same as without that data the result would be invalid.

You haven't even done the first step yet. Just making empty assertions doesn't qualify as providing evidence and argument. Petty you don't understand something as simple as that, but what can we expect from some online clown who thinks colors are mostly about the lens.

A7s has 1/3 stop advantage over Df, according to raws, according to dxomark, the only scientific source, and according to all studio shots on dozens of websites, including DPreview.Now that's evidence. So we have evidence vs hot air by an internet troll.

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2015 at 19:26 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

Look how stupid this guy is. Of course, even if you shared raws, you have to provide evidence that lighting and conditions were similar. Otherwise the result would be invalid. The guy is so stupid that he even doesn't understand that. Well, what can we expect from someone who thinks colors is mostly about the lens. He obviously isn't the sharpest knife.

And here is the worst part: The guy has not even shared the invalid raws. Take a class in logic, dude. You need to provide evidence to win an argument.

A7s has 1/3 stop advantage over Df, according to raws, according to dxomark, the only scientific source, and according to all studio shots on dozens of websites, including DPreview.

Lets ignore all that data because an internet troll claims he has secret raw files in his secret bag that he won't provide that he took in a camera store that contradict all scientific data.

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2015 at 18:36 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

If you shared raw, that would be at least providing evidence. Even then, the data would still be invalid without providing proof that lightning and other factors were identical.

So far, you are just online troll without a shred of evidence to back up any of your claim. You most likely haven't even touched any of these cameras, not even in the camera store as you claim.

I mean what can we expect from someone who just posted a few days ago that colors is mostly about lens. That's a statement of an idiot -- not someone who knows anything about cameras, raws, and lenses.

A7s has better low light performance than Df, not by much, but something like by 1/3 stops, according to my raws, DPR shots, and dxomark. Now that's actual scientific fact.

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2015 at 17:38 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

"That I won't share isn't evidence of anything of the sort."

It is. Without evidence, your argument is invalid. Take a basic class in logic. Had you done that, you won't be posting so stupid things.

Your second sentence above is also lacking in logic.

Where do these idiots come from?

"And my raws entirely back me up."

LOL. And my raws and my neighbors raws, and his grandad raws, backs me up. So there. Three vs one. I win. The idiot gets idiotic response back

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2015 at 16:59 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

"No, I won't be sharing my raws."

That's all we need to know to figure out that you are simply blowing hotair and either outright lying or ashamed of sharing your camera store unscientific photos.

I will take dxomark and dpre studio shot (both contradict your claim) over a troll.

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2015 at 16:00 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

HowaboutRAW is a 100% troll and known to post stupid things, like the claim earlier that colors are mostly about lens.

He has not posted a shred of evidence about his DF vs A7s low light comparison. He is just blowing hot air. A7s is better in both studio shot and on dxomark. It's actual data vs a troll blowing hot air.

Link | Posted on Sep 12, 2015 at 06:37 UTC
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Bhima78: Pretty sweet camera here. It looks like Sony, like Olympus, has yet to crack the code on using their IBIS with 4K video recording. It will come one day...

It can, as far as I know.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2015 at 19:26 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

You are a troll. You claim to have taken photos in camera store. Either you are outright lying, or you have unscientific data.

In both cases, until you post proof, it's anecdotal evidence that don't count as evidence Take a basic class in logic.

A7s is about 1/3 stop better than DF according to raw and dxomark, both. That's in stills. In video the difference is bigger.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2015 at 18:11 UTC
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KrisAK: Does Sony not provide review samples of their cameras prior to release?

"Hands-on" reports usually coincide with product announcements from Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, etc.; with Sony, we seem to be stuck waiting for anecdotal reports of dubious value. Making an informed purchase is something of a challenge.

A7s series is released by video division who seem to have no contact with DPR. A7s was released at NAB. DPR never posted any news when FS7 was released. Now there is no news on DPR about FS5.

It's seems there is zero contact between DPR and Sony video division.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2015 at 18:04 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

HowaboutRAW, you are a troll because you make definite statements but provide zero evidence. That's a trollish behavior.

I will take dxomark over online trolls

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2015 at 16:54 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

I will take dxomark over internet troll who posted no proof.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2015 at 16:24 UTC
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ZeneticX: before anyone jumps on the hate train and starts saying this is a minor update compared to the 7RII..... thing is why should sony bother?

no camera currently in the market came close to the low light performance of the 7S. Changing the body and adding IBIS will do for now.

This is a VIDEO camera and A7s is two stops better than D4S in video mode.

So the poster you are replying is correct. No camera comes even close to A7s in lowlight video capability.

As for stills, according top dxomark A7s is better than both D4s and Df by 1/3 stop (your homegrown test that you did in camera shop doesn't count as you never posted proof and is just anecdotal baseless claim).

Regardless, A7s blows D4s in video low light capability. Here is A7s vs D4s side by side

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2015 at 16:15 UTC
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maljo@inreach.com: Raw: D810 vs A7R2 vs 5DR:
I'd pick the Nikon for sharpness, noise, resolution, color.
All good. Very subjective.

You have not used logic, dummy. Posting anecdotal stories isn't evidence. That's just some internet idiot posting empty assertions. Evidence would be posting scientific reasoning on what part of lens creates or adds to color and how it does it, without engineers who made the lens knowing about that property of the lens.

"Some optical engineers do understand this point."

See? That's not a proof. That's an idiot making a statement without proof. Post the link, link to PDF, name these engineers. That's posting evidence.

There is nothing inside a lens that creates or adds color. If there was, optical engineers would know about it, but there is no such thing.

Link | Posted on Sep 8, 2015 at 23:24 UTC
On article BSI Boss? Sony Alpha 7R II added to studio scene (514 comments in total)
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maljo@inreach.com: Raw: D810 vs A7R2 vs 5DR:
I'd pick the Nikon for sharpness, noise, resolution, color.
All good. Very subjective.

You have never posted a single evidence or even logical argument to back up your claim.

Just empty claims based on anecdotal evidence. Had you taken a basic class in logic , you would have known anecdotal evidence don't prove crap.

Where is that link to Nikon guy where he says anything about colors producing ability of lens? No where. Yet again empty idiotic statement, but not a shred of proof.

There is nothing inside a lens that creates or adds color. If there was, optical engineers would know about it, and would improve it, and there would be new patents and articles and discoveries.

Link | Posted on Sep 8, 2015 at 22:45 UTC
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maljo@inreach.com: Raw: D810 vs A7R2 vs 5DR:
I'd pick the Nikon for sharpness, noise, resolution, color.
All good. Very subjective.

The color on Foveon sensor has absolutely nothing to do with lenses. Foveon creatures RGB color output by combining the output of stacked diodes. What does that have do with lenses? Absolutely nothing.

There is nothing inside a lens that creates or adds color. If there was, optical engineers would know about it, and would improve it, and there would be new patents and articles and discoveries.

Link | Posted on Sep 8, 2015 at 21:50 UTC
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maljo@inreach.com: Raw: D810 vs A7R2 vs 5DR:
I'd pick the Nikon for sharpness, noise, resolution, color.
All good. Very subjective.

"And it's okay in my book that you think blue a lower frequency than red."

Something I never said. And what does that have to do with lens creating colors? Absolutely nothing.

"But really you need some good raws shot with Zeisses and then say Nikons under the same light."

More empty anecdotal statements.

color has nothing to do with lens. It's sensor or color filter plus software that makes color.

Link | Posted on Sep 8, 2015 at 21:25 UTC
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maljo@inreach.com: Raw: D810 vs A7R2 vs 5DR:
I'd pick the Nikon for sharpness, noise, resolution, color.
All good. Very subjective.

Foveon is a sensor, and not a lens. You keep repeating the word "Foveon " like an idiot, over and over again, but it doesn't prove the lens create or adds to color. There is nothing inside a lens that creates or adds color. If there was, optical engineers would know about it, and would improve it, and there would be new patents and articles and discoveries. No such thing exists.

That's because color has nothing to do with lens. It's sensor or color filter plus software that makes color.

Link | Posted on Sep 8, 2015 at 20:34 UTC
On article BSI Boss? Sony Alpha 7R II added to studio scene (514 comments in total)
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maljo@inreach.com: Raw: D810 vs A7R2 vs 5DR:
I'd pick the Nikon for sharpness, noise, resolution, color.
All good. Very subjective.

I have looked at raw files for years, and found no proof that lens creates or add to colors. You are claiming there is such proof, you have posted zero evidence for that claim.

You are making a positive assertion, so you must prove it. You can't prove a negative. Take a basic class in logic.

"Again your accurate Foveon summary presents a big problem for Newton's colour theory as understood by official science in the year 2015."

Look at this completely incoherent babbling. The guy is a clown.

There is nothing inside a lens that creates or adds color. If there was, optical engineers would know about it, and would improve it, and there would be new patents and articles and discoveries.

Link | Posted on Sep 8, 2015 at 19:34 UTC
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