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roustabout66: I would not feel very comfortable owning a Sony camera now. My understanding is that most of any profits generated were by sensors not cameras.

roustabout66, camera division was never part of sensor division. Cameras are part of more profitable Sony pro video division which makes cameras and accessories for Hollywood and Broadcast TV. That's why cameras are not going anywhere in your lifetime.

Link | Posted on Oct 9, 2015 at 16:57 UTC
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T3: It's hilarious how everyone is putting their own fanciful spin on this story, based on their own biases and agenda! Ha-ha. At the end of the day, I'm pretty sure that Sony did this because it's GOOD for SONY. And the rest of us should just get on with our lives, shooting what we want to shoot, with whatever equipment we want to shop with. No need to read too much into this, or overreact, or jump off a cliff, or go into a fit of ecstacy.

Greynerd, sensors were never part of "internal camera division". Sensors were part of batteries and storage.

Now there will be three separate companies (sensors, batteries, and storage), but these are not publicly traded companies. The three are still 100% owned by the parent company, Sony.

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 16:18 UTC
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T3: It's hilarious how everyone is putting their own fanciful spin on this story, based on their own biases and agenda! Ha-ha. At the end of the day, I'm pretty sure that Sony did this because it's GOOD for SONY. And the rest of us should just get on with our lives, shooting what we want to shoot, with whatever equipment we want to shop with. No need to read too much into this, or overreact, or jump off a cliff, or go into a fit of ecstacy.

MikeF4Black, you are babbling nonsense. Neither the sensors nor cameras have been losing any money for Sony.

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 12:13 UTC
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Sessility: This is probably great news for everyone except Sony camera owners, since it could mean a cloud of uncertainty over Sony's camera division.

But, then again, even with a fully supported camera division, you couldn't be sure whether Sony continues one of their mounts and brings out more lenses for it or not...

paxpax. it's not a totally separate company that is traded publicly. Its owned 100% by the parent company.

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 11:45 UTC
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Joed700: The big question is what will happen to Nikon's future? Since Nikon solely depended on Sony sensors for their FF DSLRs, Sony could easily drive Nikon out of business by not supplying Nikon with newer sensors....at least Canon is making their own...

No, nothing will happen. If not Sony, many others will be happy to fabricate sensors for Nikon. Sony will simply lose revenue.

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 03:48 UTC
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supeyugin1: Good move. Now Sony is free to close their mobile phone and camera departments, as those are not profitable.

Yes

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/14q4_sony.pdf

and from last year

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/13q4_sony.pdf

The cameras are part of Imaging Products & Solutions (IP&S)

2013. 2014. 2015 were all profitable

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 03:43 UTC
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Zvonimir Tosic: Now they are not tied to any encumbering plans and delays of the parent family. Sony's corporate goals will not interfere with sensor production plans, for this or that reason, and the new business can pace its own agendas. No more exclusive "buying rights" through corporate parent barters, no more delays because of need for parent corporation books to look "prettier". Etc.

The company is still owned 100% by the parent company

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 03:31 UTC
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Sessility: This is probably great news for everyone except Sony camera owners, since it could mean a cloud of uncertainty over Sony's camera division.

But, then again, even with a fully supported camera division, you couldn't be sure whether Sony continues one of their mounts and brings out more lenses for it or not...

Why? Sensor was never part of Sony's cameras division. They were part of division that made storage and batteries. Now storage, batteries and senors are all separate.

Nothing at all do with cameras.

The reason Sony still cameras aren't going anywhere is because they are part of (more profitable) Sony's pro video division, which makes cameras and many other accessories for Hollywood and broadcast TV (news, documentaries, etc).

Sony camera division isn't going anywhere in your lifetime.

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 03:28 UTC
On article Sony Alpha 7R II Review (2170 comments in total)
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HowaboutRAW: D810 sure wins for noise control when doing the ISO invariance thing.

You are wrong, dude. I will take my tests over yours.

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 00:17 UTC
On article Sony Alpha 7R II Review (2170 comments in total)
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HowaboutRAW: D810 sure wins for noise control when doing the ISO invariance thing.

A7s is better than D4s about 1/3 stop and A7rii is better than D810 about the same amount. I have confirmed both these statements are true with my tests.

Link | Posted on Oct 8, 2015 at 00:01 UTC
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supeyugin1: Good move. Now Sony is free to close their mobile phone and camera departments, as those are not profitable.

Not just that, but Imaging division has been profitable for several years now.

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 23:14 UTC
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Herp Photos: Good! Hopefully this ends the rumor or reality that Sony holds back their newest sensors from the likes of Fuji, Pentax and Nikon for 6 months so that Sony's own cameras can use them first.

Where do you it is a separate traded stock? It's a company owned by Sony, which is a traded stock.

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 21:01 UTC
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Herp Photos: Good! Hopefully this ends the rumor or reality that Sony holds back their newest sensors from the likes of Fuji, Pentax and Nikon for 6 months so that Sony's own cameras can use them first.

More autonomy but the company is still owned by Sony, named Sony Semiconductor Solutions Corporation

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 20:48 UTC
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Herp Photos: Good! Hopefully this ends the rumor or reality that Sony holds back their newest sensors from the likes of Fuji, Pentax and Nikon for 6 months so that Sony's own cameras can use them first.

First remember that camera and sensor division were already separate. Nothing has changed in that sense.

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 18:55 UTC
On article And the winners are: DPReview Awards 2015 (396 comments in total)
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jimrpdx: 'tis a shame that Pentax' pixel shift and AA simulation were not enough for an innovation nod. The NX1 has some excellent and unique features though.

I was talking about pixel shift. It's an innovation by Hasselblad

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4410648565/hasselblad-unveils-pixel-shifting-200mp-h5d-200c-ms

Then Olympus after that. Third in line was Pentax

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 18:40 UTC
On article And the winners are: DPReview Awards 2015 (396 comments in total)
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jimrpdx: 'tis a shame that Pentax' pixel shift and AA simulation were not enough for an innovation nod. The NX1 has some excellent and unique features though.

It's not innovation by Pentax. They simply copied it. Hasselblad was first

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4410648565/hasselblad-unveils-pixel-shifting-200mp-h5d-200c-ms

Then Olympus after that. Third in line was Pentax

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 17:36 UTC
On article And the winners are: DPReview Awards 2015 (396 comments in total)
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Cheng Bao: Doesn't it a little too early to call camera of year 2015?
With photoplus on the way, and many new releases on horizon with 2015?
like 1D x successor?

There is no Photokina this year

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 16:43 UTC
On article Sony Alpha 7R II Review (2170 comments in total)
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Albert Silver: "This explains how the a7R II has managed to record the best high-ISO DR that DxO has yet measured."

You mean the SECOND best. The Sony A7s is no.1

Note the article says "the best high-ISO DR" not the best ISO. A7RII has better high ISO DR than A7s

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 03:23 UTC
On article Sony Alpha 7R II Review (2170 comments in total)
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HowaboutRAW: D810 sure wins for noise control when doing the ISO invariance thing.

You don't have any files. Post it o t else you are making up with the stuff. A7s is better than D4s but you have posting nonsense about that for 2 years with no evidence but made up lies like you did today with a ridiculous claim that Ar7II is whole stop worse than DD810. Here is fact vs fiction

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=sony_a7rii&attr13_1=nikon_d810&attr13_2=sony_a7rii&attr13_3=nikon_d810&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=12800&attr16_1=12800&attr16_2=12800&attr16_3=12800&attr171_0=off&attr171_2=off&normalization=print&widget=1&x=-0.10010074857498584&y=-0.9735457037704669

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 01:45 UTC
On article Sony Alpha 7R II Review (2170 comments in total)
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HowaboutRAW: D810 sure wins for noise control when doing the ISO invariance thing.

You don't have samples. You are lying. My samples got much better performance for A7RII. You have been posting this nonsense for several years now about various A7 and Nikon camera. All pure made up lies.

Link | Posted on Oct 7, 2015 at 00:45 UTC
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