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On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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odpisan: Great!

I am very haapy & proud (NO joke) to be "Penax fan-boy"!

I just do not understand others who are insulted with this new original name of our community.

:o)

Fuji X-Pro2 .... 2480
Sony A7R II .... 2159
Sony A6300 ... 2128

Pentax K1 .... 2511 & rising .. record is broken! But I lost my bet .. too late fo 1 day.
:o(

You are changing the topic again to my abilities as a photographer. I never talk about myself, or what cameras I own, or what my religious or political views are on any topic. Stick to the topic.

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2016 at 19:24 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
In reply to:

odpisan: Great!

I am very haapy & proud (NO joke) to be "Penax fan-boy"!

I just do not understand others who are insulted with this new original name of our community.

:o)

Fuji X-Pro2 .... 2480
Sony A7R II .... 2159
Sony A6300 ... 2128

Pentax K1 .... 2511 & rising .. record is broken! But I lost my bet .. too late fo 1 day.
:o(

Gio 645, funny you have a problem with my deconstruction, but you don't believe that a person who is counting comments and has been announcing that straight for a week now, is a fanboy? If you have another words to describe people like that (and you), let us know, and I will use that word.

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2016 at 16:25 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
In reply to:

odpisan: Great!

I am very haapy & proud (NO joke) to be "Penax fan-boy"!

I just do not understand others who are insulted with this new original name of our community.

:o)

Fuji X-Pro2 .... 2480
Sony A7R II .... 2159
Sony A6300 ... 2128

Pentax K1 .... 2511 & rising .. record is broken! But I lost my bet .. too late fo 1 day.
:o(

Yes, there is nothing wrong with the word "fanboy" as it perfectly describe a group of people who are in love with a brand. I also agree that you are a fanboy, as you seem to be very happy about number of comments posted on this review.

However, like I said before these aren't most comments overall, though, as DPR has combined both announcement and review comments (they did the same with X-Pro2)

Both A6300 and A7RII have more overall comments as

A6300 1371 announcement and 2131 review = 3502
A7RII 1250 announcement 2159 review, and 981 on lowlight article = 4389

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2016 at 13:23 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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DuncanM1: Here's a video review of the K-1 including some real world testing of AF-C mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQoFvBMmfFA

At about 12:30 the reviewer discusses the AF; he rates it quite highly...

If you check this guy history, you will see he is googling and posting any site that says K1's AF is good, regardless if the source is is credible or not, he does not care. He is not motivated by truth. He is motivated by defending his brand by googling and finding anything that he thinks is positive, and posting them to forums and comments, regardless if they are true is irrelevant. That's his basic mindset when he posts these links, as he has been doing for a week now.

Link | Posted on Jul 18, 2016 at 07:31 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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GrayW: Hmm... it seems that AF-C on a static tripod with the subject weaving in and out of the focus field isn't a very good test of the K-1 real world AF capabilities.

I never cry. I am enjoying myself and having fun. Why would I cry when I am having so much fun?

Funny how you say you aren't a fanboy yet go on to reject the "tests" just because the camera brand you like performed subpar. Other cameras went through the same test and sometimes performed fine (other times not). For K1, the reviewers repeated the test 18 times to address various issues mentioned by people like you, with the same results, and let's also not forget that in side by side comparisons with other cameras, the AF was found to be subpar. You are demanding DPR to not mention any of these factual things about the camera they found that are negative, because it's a pemtax camera, and you you want them to never call you a fanboy? Is that about it? Or is there something else they can also do for you?

Link | Posted on Jul 17, 2016 at 21:32 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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GrayW: Hmm... it seems that AF-C on a static tripod with the subject weaving in and out of the focus field isn't a very good test of the K-1 real world AF capabilities.

Funny part is that all three of you guys insulted me, you with you calling me "a disturbed personality" but yet you are demanding apologies for Rishi for using (the much milder) word, "fanboy". The hypocrisy at it's best.

You should get back to the topic. K1 review wasn't negative. It got 84% (that's pretty high) and a silver award, but the review pointed out that It performed sub par in AF tests (tested over 18 times to address quibbles on the forum), and that's what started the attacks by brand loyalists, who would not tolerate anything critical in a review of pentax gear. I was neutral observer.

Link | Posted on Jul 17, 2016 at 20:37 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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GrayW: Hmm... it seems that AF-C on a static tripod with the subject weaving in and out of the focus field isn't a very good test of the K-1 real world AF capabilities.

Funny coming "troll"accusation from the same fanboys who keep asking DPR to "explain" why they haven't rated K1 best invention ever since slice bread. This guy posting history speaks for itself.

Link | Posted on Jul 17, 2016 at 17:44 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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GrayW: Hmm... it seems that AF-C on a static tripod with the subject weaving in and out of the focus field isn't a very good test of the K-1 real world AF capabilities.

You are the one who is angry, not rest of the world, as your angry reaction to the review continues, despite facts explained to you. AF was subpar compared to other 2015-2016 models after dozens of tests and months of using the camera, that included using the camera side by side with other models. If you are not the definition of fanboy, do we need to invent a new word to describe your behavior?

Link | Posted on Jul 17, 2016 at 16:34 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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GrayW: Hmm... it seems that AF-C on a static tripod with the subject weaving in and out of the focus field isn't a very good test of the K-1 real world AF capabilities.

Anyone can check your posting history too, and you have known history of attacking anyone who says anything critical about your brand, like you are doing right now to reviewers, and you don't even own K1.

Link | Posted on Jul 17, 2016 at 13:47 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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GrayW: Hmm... it seems that AF-C on a static tripod with the subject weaving in and out of the focus field isn't a very good test of the K-1 real world AF capabilities.

' Name calling? ("Pentax fanboys") . '

It's called calling a spade, a spade, not name calling. As the reviewers says they performed multiple tests multiple times (not just bike test that was performed 6 times, triplicate, making it 18 times, but various other tests, side by side tests, and generally using the camera for months etc.), before writing the review. The posters who are still whining are well known fanboys who do the same thing on the forum.

Link | Posted on Jul 17, 2016 at 12:46 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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LightBug: I went back to LR to look at the the current set of images in DPR's K-1 review, and found out where the center of each frame were (left and right below refers to image's left and right, opposite of cyclist's left and right, in focus means the face is in sharp focus):

IMGP2813: left side of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2814: top left edge of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2815: left side of helmet

IMGP2816: face

IMGP2817: face

IMGP2818: face

IMGP2819: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2820: center of face

IMGP2821: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2822: face (in focus)

IMGP2823: left ear

IMGP2824: left side of face

IMGP2825: left side of face

IMGP2826: left ear

Compared to the AF overlay image, the center autofocus point seems about the same size as the cyclist's face in the first image.

I suspect the starting 3 frames having the focus point on side of helmet may cause some tracking issue.

The person I was responding to was quoting DPR review on A7RII. I responded with the same source. DPR would not recommend any Pentax camera for sports. Many people have use Sony cameras for sports over the years. So what? K1 AFC is still worse than A7RII according to DPR tests,

Link | Posted on Jul 11, 2016 at 15:36 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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LightBug: I went back to LR to look at the the current set of images in DPR's K-1 review, and found out where the center of each frame were (left and right below refers to image's left and right, opposite of cyclist's left and right, in focus means the face is in sharp focus):

IMGP2813: left side of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2814: top left edge of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2815: left side of helmet

IMGP2816: face

IMGP2817: face

IMGP2818: face

IMGP2819: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2820: center of face

IMGP2821: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2822: face (in focus)

IMGP2823: left ear

IMGP2824: left side of face

IMGP2825: left side of face

IMGP2826: left ear

Compared to the AF overlay image, the center autofocus point seems about the same size as the cyclist's face in the first image.

I suspect the starting 3 frames having the focus point on side of helmet may cause some tracking issue.

LightBug, yes DPR would not recommend A7RII to professional sports photographers, and they won't recommend any Pentax DSLR ever made either to these people, as these cameras would be even worse.

Link | Posted on Jul 11, 2016 at 06:44 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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LightBug: I went back to LR to look at the the current set of images in DPR's K-1 review, and found out where the center of each frame were (left and right below refers to image's left and right, opposite of cyclist's left and right, in focus means the face is in sharp focus):

IMGP2813: left side of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2814: top left edge of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2815: left side of helmet

IMGP2816: face

IMGP2817: face

IMGP2818: face

IMGP2819: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2820: center of face

IMGP2821: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2822: face (in focus)

IMGP2823: left ear

IMGP2824: left side of face

IMGP2825: left side of face

IMGP2826: left ear

Compared to the AF overlay image, the center autofocus point seems about the same size as the cyclist's face in the first image.

I suspect the starting 3 frames having the focus point on side of helmet may cause some tracking issue.

It's not about "suck". It's about fanboys, like yourself and others on the site, who tried to persuade reviewers to change factual test results where their brand perform subpar. DPR will have no credibility if they only started posting positive reviews about all cameras in all reviews, just to please fanboys.

Link | Posted on Jul 10, 2016 at 15:12 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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LightBug: I went back to LR to look at the the current set of images in DPR's K-1 review, and found out where the center of each frame were (left and right below refers to image's left and right, opposite of cyclist's left and right, in focus means the face is in sharp focus):

IMGP2813: left side of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2814: top left edge of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2815: left side of helmet

IMGP2816: face

IMGP2817: face

IMGP2818: face

IMGP2819: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2820: center of face

IMGP2821: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2822: face (in focus)

IMGP2823: left ear

IMGP2824: left side of face

IMGP2825: left side of face

IMGP2826: left ear

Compared to the AF overlay image, the center autofocus point seems about the same size as the cyclist's face in the first image.

I suspect the starting 3 frames having the focus point on side of helmet may cause some tracking issue.

No, it's still just AF system that tracks moving objects. K1 and K3 performed subpar Of course 80D, 7D II, D500, all went through the same bike test, and they all performed better than K3 and K1, despite numerous tries and with many lenses.

Link | Posted on Jul 10, 2016 at 14:53 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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LightBug: I went back to LR to look at the the current set of images in DPR's K-1 review, and found out where the center of each frame were (left and right below refers to image's left and right, opposite of cyclist's left and right, in focus means the face is in sharp focus):

IMGP2813: left side of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2814: top left edge of helmet (in focus)

IMGP2815: left side of helmet

IMGP2816: face

IMGP2817: face

IMGP2818: face

IMGP2819: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2820: center of face

IMGP2821: center of face (in focus)

IMGP2822: face (in focus)

IMGP2823: left ear

IMGP2824: left side of face

IMGP2825: left side of face

IMGP2826: left ear

Compared to the AF overlay image, the center autofocus point seems about the same size as the cyclist's face in the first image.

I suspect the starting 3 frames having the focus point on side of helmet may cause some tracking issue.

A7RII was tested under same conditions

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/11

and it's clear K1 AFC is sub-par, by a huge margin.

Link | Posted on Jul 10, 2016 at 07:52 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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ogl: AF test is not valid, because they can't create the same light condition and don't use the same lenses. They compare apple with oranges.
Imaging resource uses the same SIGMA lens with different mount for testing cameras.

DPREVIEW -
You could compare the cameras of the same brands - for example, K-1 and K-3II.
You could compare K-1 in APS-C mode with APS-C cameras of P, N, C and S of the same price level.
You could compare K-1 with FF cameras of the same price range.
It would be INTERESTING.

And you should keep the same light condition, condition of test and the same DOF

Everybody know that D5 and 1Dx have better AF than K-1 without tests. It's different league and to make conclusion based on comparison with the best reportage cameras in the world is simply SILLY.

In the tracking (riding in curves) test, the K-1 lost focus because the target left the focus area. That may be considered unfair.

"Show me, please, the list of lenses for AF-C tests with K-3, K-3II and K-1 "

That info is in the review and exif files, and in the case of K3 I remember Richard Butler posting on the forum other lenses he tried, after similar whining back then.

"ogl
please, go here and discuss http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4025698"

Yes, I have, and that guy post is already answered. He is wrong. Remember these tests were done many times, and with three cameras over last two years (K3, K3II, and K1) and Pentax AFC system consistently failed, so it's not a fluke. It's consistently subpar performance, and not compared to D5 (that's a strawman) but compared to average DSLR and mirrorless came.

see http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4025698?page=4#forum-post-58025880

Link | Posted on Jul 9, 2016 at 14:50 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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odpisan: Fuji X-Pro2 .... 2480
Sony A7R II .... 2159
Sony A6300 ... 2128

Pentax K1 .... 2206 & rising
:o)

I bet that
next week Pentax K1 will have over 2500 comments & it will be the most exciting camera on DPr.

This page has all the comments on K1 going back to announcement day 5 months back

A7RII comments are split. For example, outside of those 2159 comments on the review, here are 1250 comments on announcement

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8917769536/sony-alpha-a7r-ii-has-42-4mp-on-full-frame-bsi-cmos-sensor

(there were many other articles on A7RII with many more comments but let's ignore that now)

Link | Posted on Jul 9, 2016 at 08:44 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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ogl: AF test is not valid, because they can't create the same light condition and don't use the same lenses. They compare apple with oranges.
Imaging resource uses the same SIGMA lens with different mount for testing cameras.

DPREVIEW -
You could compare the cameras of the same brands - for example, K-1 and K-3II.
You could compare K-1 in APS-C mode with APS-C cameras of P, N, C and S of the same price level.
You could compare K-1 with FF cameras of the same price range.
It would be INTERESTING.

And you should keep the same light condition, condition of test and the same DOF

Everybody know that D5 and 1Dx have better AF than K-1 without tests. It's different league and to make conclusion based on comparison with the best reportage cameras in the world is simply SILLY.

In the tracking (riding in curves) test, the K-1 lost focus because the target left the focus area. That may be considered unfair.

"Imaging resource uses the same SIGMA lens with different mount for testing cameras."

IR uses Sigma lens for studio shot. They don't do AFC tests.

"Everybody know that D5 and 1Dx have better AF than K-1 without tests"

That's absolute nonsensical strawman. No one expected K1 to perform at D5 level. What the review says is that K1 AFC does not perform at the level of average DSLR (like D750) or mirrorless camera, like A7RII.

"In the tracking (riding in curves) test, the K-1 lost focus because the target left the focus area"

No, this has been discussed many times on the forum. That's not true. And these tests were performed many times with many different lenses and three different Pentax cameras (K3, k3II, and now K1). All these cameras consistently performed below average (and note no one here is comparing them to D5, that is a strawman, they are below average DSLR and mirrorless)

Link | Posted on Jul 9, 2016 at 07:55 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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elixer: "At high-ISOs the K-1 performs on par or better than its peers, such as the Nikon D810, WITH RESULTS COMPARABLE to the Sony a7r II. It even out performs the D810 in ISO's that exceed 6400 which is very impressive for a camera at this price point. The low light performance performance of the K-1 is surprisingly nearly on par with 645Z. When comparing the K-1 to full frame cameras at its price point such as the Sony a7 ii, the camera out performs its competition in nearly every aspect"

Reviewers, please help me to understand why there is such a HUGE gap in the "Low light / high ISO performance" when I compare the Sony A7RII and the Pentax K1 using your resource. Can you break it down just a little more?

It's also is known that Pentax sometimes apply raw noise reduction to files that can't be turned off, so you can't conclude too much about 1/2 stop "less noise" at ISO 128000 or whatever.

Link | Posted on Jul 9, 2016 at 07:47 UTC
On article Special K? Pentax K-1 Review (2605 comments in total)
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Gesture: If I could get 80 percent of the quality of a Rolls Royce, Ferrari, whatever for 1/2 the price, I might consider it Golden?

4K has many other uses. YOu can crop to 1080p if you have 4K original. That gives you a lot of option (even panning option).

If you have 4K video, you can also crop out STABILIZED version of 1080p from that. That's another plus

Link | Posted on Jul 8, 2016 at 17:45 UTC
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