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On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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zakaria: @dpthought
Would you name a lens like 15-30not heavy.
The tamy lens that you dont like is better than the 14-24 from Nikon and at half+ the price .
The G lens from Sony is huge and very expensive.
As a pentaxian I have lenses more than I need.
Pentax has 5 modern dfa lenses that enough for most people 28-105.24-70.70-200.150-450.15-30.
Don't forget the 3 amigo fa ltds and 2 dfa macro.
What kind of photography you miss in Pentax camp.

@zakaria True, the Tamron 15-30 is better than the Nikon 14-24, according to many reviews. And it is stabilised (for Nikon/Canon anyway). I also don't really subscribe to dpthought's statement that Pentax can't make good primes, and I don't think that Nikon lenses by definition are of a better build quality, like he suggested.

Lenses that I miss personally, for Pentax, are those "in between" consumer and pro-level. Like f/4 zooms, or a variable-aperture 70-300, or cheap f/1.8 primes. I wouldn't really like to carry a big heavy 70-200 zoom up a mountain. But an f/4 zoom or that 70-300? Maybe.

Pentax has clearly set out to first appeal to professional photographers, with the f/2.8 triplet and the fast 50 that is coming. But for me, I'd like something different.

But everyone should determine for themselves what they are willing to spend and what their needs are.

Link | Posted on May 22, 2018 at 11:48 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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6BQ5: This article was originally published on May 7. It has almost 1400 comments and it is still popping up on DP Review's front page, right on top - not somewhere low where articles go to quietly disappear. This is great!

Thanks to @dpthoughts for keeping the brand in the spotlight! :-D

@pentaust "We all need 14 lenses"

Yes, that's exactly what he was implying. Right?

Btw, we can do it! 2000 comments, come on. We only talked about Pentax and Hitler so far.

Link | Posted on May 21, 2018 at 08:58 UTC
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starbase218: This is very nice. All camera manufacturers should do this.

There's also the issue of how to implement HTTP over USB. I have no idea if that's ever been done before, although a quick search resulted in some results for ethernet over USB.

Wrt PTP, isn't that just for transferring images? Although that 32 bit ID may be useful. Maybe it can even refer to more than one file, e.g. RAWs and JPEGs or duplicates on two memory cards. So let's borrow that. Then we can do stuff like http://camera/images/image/2431587/addGpsCoordinates.

Well, I can dream, can't I? ;)

The thing is though, cameras are partially computers already. Why not take it one step further and unlock the potential therein? In that sense, this move by Ricoh is a good one.

Link | Posted on May 20, 2018 at 14:55 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

@Alex Sarbu Actually I should have left it at "it's sad you have to say that", regardless of how I feel about dpthoughts or Pentax.

Link | Posted on May 20, 2018 at 12:34 UTC
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starbase218: This is very nice. All camera manufacturers should do this.

True. I guess it makes sense to me to have every function that you can set by operating the camera - as long as it doesn't involve things like switches that have to be move in a certain position - able to be manipulated through an API.

If the camera supports wifi, why not just make that a REST API? Then you don't even need an SDK. Although you'd have to have an embedded http server in your camera. Not sure if that's practical.

Link | Posted on May 20, 2018 at 11:59 UTC
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starbase218: This is very nice. All camera manufacturers should do this.

@Roland Karlsson If the manufacturer has its own app, like Snapbridge, then it’s possible. It’s just not an open standard.

Safety? You can implement exception handling in the camera itself. No biggy.

Link | Posted on May 20, 2018 at 10:23 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

@BarneyL I do have to say that the build quality of even the Nikon 16-85/3.5-5.6 puts my Pentax 17-70/4 to shame. Metal cams, hardly any wobble, a solid feel and tight tolerances. But I never used the Pentax 16-85/3.5-5.6, so I don't know how that compares. And I have no doubt there are worse build Nikkors as well.

Link | Posted on May 20, 2018 at 00:44 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

@Alex Sarbu "You're making a good team."

It's sad you have to say that. I mentioned before that I thought he was obnoxious at times. And I suppose you skipped the part in my post where I praised the 60-250?

Link | Posted on May 19, 2018 at 19:40 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

Yeah, my 16-50 died too. I ended up buying another one used, and eventually swapped out the optics as the original one turned out to be slightly sharper. I tested the other one, converted it to screw-drive and sold it on at a discount.

My 60-250 also started to develop issues. But by that time I already got a D7100 and some Nikon lenses. Eventually I sold it at a discount too.

I lost money on SDM failing. And the irony is that that 60-250 was actually not as good at tracking a moving subject as the consumer-grade 55-300 I intended it to replace. The optics were marvellous though. It's the best Pentax zoom I ever owned: sharp throughout the frame at f/4 across the zoom range, and I think it might even beat my Nikon 70-200 f/4 in that regard. Although it did have significant focus breathing.

But the fact that a lens that's like 3 or 4 times the price of the 55-300 offered worse continuous AF performance was all the more reason for me to look further.

Link | Posted on May 19, 2018 at 18:15 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

@Alex Sarbu Fair enough. But if you have a Pentax crop camera and want a fast standard zoom today, their solution is still the 16-50.

And nobody ever complained about the reliability of screw-drive lenses.

Link | Posted on May 19, 2018 at 12:39 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

@Alex Sarbu I know what you mean. But do you get what I mean?

Link | Posted on May 19, 2018 at 12:21 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

@dpthoughts You have to discern between SDM and SDM. SDM is like Nikon SWM: it is a container term that can describe a micro-motor (as in the DA* lenses, that are prone to failing) or a ring-type motor (as in the Tamron-rebadged fullframe lenses, that have a better track record).

And current Nikon lenses inhertited by grand-children... let's just wait and see if that will happen. The 17-55 is a tank of a lens. I have one and it might outlive me. But Nikon has cheaper lenses too, with micro-motors and gears similar to Pentax.

@Alex Sarbu "Pentax abandoned SDM micromotors a decade ago" Hardly. The DA* lenses are still in production with little in the way of replacements on the roadmap.

But I'm getting tired of this. Good luck everyone.

Link | Posted on May 19, 2018 at 11:43 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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StephanSchmidt: The largest problem with Pentax is lenses. Most of them were excellent back a decade but are no longer. The world moved on. They should take a look at Fuji (disclaimer Fuji user) who rolled out a lot of excellent lenses for a new system in a relativly short time (+ a second line of primes with slower but smaller f2 lenses) - and will do the same for GFX again.

And Ricoh doesn't update their only top seller, the GR.

@Nivedita

“1) Pentax D-FA 70-200 F2.8 is NOT an SDM lens. It is a DC lens. None of those DC lenses had any of the issues those early batches of SDM lenses had (16-50mm and 50-135mm etc.)”

Dprhoughts spoke in the past tense when mentioning the top-tier lenses and as such he is not incorrect. Maybe you want him to be incorrect, but that doesn’t mean he is.

“2) Pentax found the issues of their SDM lenses and corrected it. None of the new batches have the SDM issues.”

This is a rumour and not an official statement. In fact Pentax has always denied the existence of the problem. And there are people that had their later-batch SDM drives fail.

“3) The upcoming D-FA 50mm is a USM lens and Pentax anounced that all the future lenses would be USM.”

USM is a Canon designation for technology similar to SDM. Also, where is the source that all future lenses will have this tech? Seems very unlikely given the introduction of PLM (or what Canon calls “nano USM”) in some of their cheaper lenses.

Link | Posted on May 19, 2018 at 09:57 UTC
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HaoAndHui: Is that a UML diagram for object oriented programming? I haven't seen it since school.

As a promotion strategy, they should organize a few hackathons around the world to gather people's idea of what this is capable of.

I’d be game for a hackathon, even though Java is not supported. But then maybe I could create a Java wrapper API.

Although.. I don’t have Pentax anymore.

Link | Posted on May 17, 2018 at 22:27 UTC

This is very nice. All camera manufacturers should do this.

Link | Posted on May 17, 2018 at 22:10 UTC as 12th comment | 7 replies
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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Mortal Lion: Why not ask Pentax for a copy of the D FA* 50mm F1.4 to reshoot the K-1 and the K-1 II (Instead of the 77mm ltd which is hardly meant for reproductive work). We'll be able to see what modern glass does for the K-1's.

@Mortal Lion

"You were talking about the company not the gear. So don't you use a straw man on me."

Hold your horses. Maybe I took your words out of context. If so, I'm sorry. But I was referring to the gear that the company makes. And of course I'd like that gear to be competitive. If not for me personally, then for the sustainability of their business. It's no good to me if they go out of business and I end up with a camera no new lenses will be developed for.

"The lens will be available soon and might already be available to review sites. Photo's of it and by it have already appeared online. Pentax ambassadors are probably already using it."

"Might", "probably". And photos of the 70-200 also went online. Hell, it was even reviewed (https://www.ephotozine.com/article/pentax-hd-pentax-d-fa--70-200mm-f-2-8-ed-dc-aw-review-27358) before they announced the delay (https://www.dpreview.com/articles/1438031801/ricoh-delays-new-star-series-pentax-70-200mm-f2-8-for-design-change).

Link | Posted on May 17, 2018 at 15:21 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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Mortal Lion: Why not ask Pentax for a copy of the D FA* 50mm F1.4 to reshoot the K-1 and the K-1 II (Instead of the 77mm ltd which is hardly meant for reproductive work). We'll be able to see what modern glass does for the K-1's.

@Mortal Lion
"Because it is already in production and they can publish the reshoot when it is out in a month or so. I am sure Ricoh could supply them with a good sample."
- So you say they should wait with reviewing new cameras each time a new lens is just around the corner?

"Who cares about competitiveness?"
- So you don't care about your gear being competitive for the price you pay for it? Ok. But to give you an example, I'm considering Capture One as a Lightroom replacement. I want the software to help me solve certain problems. I can pay for that with money (and with a learning curve). In that sense, there is no difference between software and a camera or a lens, or any piece of gear that solves one or more problems for me. It's economics.

"I care about a realistic representation of the IQ potential of the camera. For that you need the best lens available."
- The lens you talk about is not available. It might be in a month, or in a few months more (remember the 70-200 delays?)

Link | Posted on May 17, 2018 at 13:44 UTC
On article Pentax K-1 II Review: A worthy upgrade? (1441 comments in total)
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Mortal Lion: Why not ask Pentax for a copy of the D FA* 50mm F1.4 to reshoot the K-1 and the K-1 II (Instead of the 77mm ltd which is hardly meant for reproductive work). We'll be able to see what modern glass does for the K-1's.

@Mortal Lion Why would they? That lens is not out yet. Besides, if you have to depend on a future lens to do a decent review of a camera, what does that say about the competitiveness of the company?

I don't think that's the case anyway. The lens used in this review is probably decentered and as such I do think they should test with another sample that is properly centered. I think this is the only thing they should feel obligated about to change. I'm indifferent to them reshooting with a 77 Limited or that 50/1.4. Because if that will be decentered as well, it would be no use. Besides, nobody knows how the 50/1.4 will perform, right?

In a way, this issue reflects what I've found out a few years ago: getting the best lens is not as important as getting a good sample of a lens.

Link | Posted on May 17, 2018 at 12:13 UTC
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left eye: There is a chance DPR will reshoot when the D FA 50mm F1.4 arrives in a couple of months, hopefully when firmware will also arrive to turn off raw NR. In an ideal world.

@left eye I hope they won't. Puts less pressure on manufacturers to get it right. Like saying "oh, you messed up. no problem, we'll just wait for you to fix it".

However, reshooting because of the corner softness of this lens is another matter. And maybe it makes sense to shoot with the same lens as the K-1 review. Although, Pentaxians responded to that review saying the 77 should not be used for pixel peeping image quality assessments...

Link | Posted on May 17, 2018 at 10:10 UTC
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robbo d: Comparing the k1 to an a7iii is also garbage.

2 quite different cameras.

Sure a7iii is new with all singing dancing AF. But k1 is 36mp, has puxel shift, astro and handheld stacking.....

In Australia prices show the sony a little dearer by 3/400 dollars.

K1 is its own camera and therefore should be reviewed as such. The editorial doesnt seem to really compensate for this rather just promotes modern video and AF.

If you shoot video your hardly going to buy pentax.

Funnily enough these are stills based cameras and Pentax is very very good at stills shooting.....

@BarneyL "This is offtopic, but older Nikon lenses have their own compatibility issues. Pre-AI don't meter with modern DSLRs (except Nikon DF), and may damage them."

True, but the situation is still better than in Pentax land.

"Also, screw-driven Nikkors (some of them truly exceptional, like 105mm Defocus Control or 80-200/2.8 AF-D, still made today) don't autofocus with all their cameras, including non-dinky ones like recent D7500."

That's just simply not true, which you would have known had you done your own due diligence on the matter. The D7500 does miss out on the aperture lever which might put some people off (I intentionally did not name the "dinky" cameras), but it has an AF motor just like the D500 or any of the fullframe models. And those fullframe models also all have the aperture lever (this is a bit more relevant to the K-1 II).

But I've grown tired of this discussion. Best of luck.

Link | Posted on May 16, 2018 at 22:06 UTC
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