RubberDials

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ThomasH_always: And... this is the new "DPreview standard" for a newsworthy article?

What exactly are you guys complaining about? That there wasn't an ad in it's place? Or a blank space?

The aim of these little snippets is to catch the eye of readers (not always the same readers), and let people know the site's active and updated frequently. If you don't see any content you want to read - maybe come back later.

Link | Posted on Sep 23, 2017 at 10:44 UTC
On article Nikon D850 First Impressions Review (1003 comments in total)

'Class leading low ISO dynamic range' according to the heading. That's ISO 64 and 100.

Talk about special pleading. Far more newsworthy in my opinion is that this new BSI sensor doesn't match the DR of the two-and-a-half-years-old A7rII sensor despite not having on-chip PDAF sensors.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 20:26 UTC as 63rd comment | 4 replies
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matthew saville: Fantastic read, this is the type of content that I wish DPR would stick to 100% of the time. Alas, we live in the age where clickbait nonsense reigns supreme. I look forward to reading about the next worthless Kickstarter product. :-P

Regarding the "we're not just about profits" clickbait line, I think they were merely responding to the idea that Sony Semiconductors might "cut off the flow" of sensors to other camera companies in some sort of diabolical business move, to try and increase profits of their own cameras. In that regard, Sony Imaging is not so interested in sheer market dominance that they'd demand Sony Semiconductors cease producing sensors for Nikon etc.

A clickbait way to put it, but yeah, Sony Imaging is smart to admit that competition is healthy for the growth / recovery of the camera market in general.

Sony doesn't appear to be selling it's best sensors to anyone though, do they? Haven't seen the A7rII sensor in anyone else's camera, or the A9's.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 20:12 UTC
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ozy82: Until Sony is not making their own lenses and not offering after service by themselves, they are not a Photo Company and I will stay away from their products

@davev8
He's not informed about anything. The A7s has only contrast detect AF not because Sony is trying to protect sales of dearer cameras (obviously a Canon user), but because the sensor has no phase detect sensors built into it as it is optimised for low light shooting. You might as well argue that Sony has lowered the megapixel capability to protect sales of the A7rII - it's just raw ignorance on his part.

Sony lenses are not 50% more than Canon/Nikon counterparts. That's simply nonsense. No doubt he has in mind a comparison with some Canon lens on the market for 25 years with a new Sony lens. Compare like for like - there isn't a 50% difference. The 16-35/2.8LIII and the 16-35GM are the same price, as are the 24-70/2.8s. The Sony 35/1.4 is slightly cheaper.

Sony is such a toy that Dpreview award the A9 the same score and grade as the D5 and 1DxII and the A7rII is the highest graded camera in it's segment.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 20:07 UTC
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Peiasdf: SONY contributed more to consumer photography in the last 10 years than any other companies, perhaps all other companies combined. Without SONY stepping in after Minolta, we won't have IBIS on FF, 1" sensor and FF compact, APS-C and FF mirrorless, cheap MF, on sensor PDAF, crazy tilty screen.

@Androole
And you're going out of your way to shade Sony's achievements. Samsung didn't pioneer aps-c mirrorless. Their aps-c mirrorless came out as exactly the same time as the NEX5 range.

Sony released the first FF camera with IBIS in 2008.

The Leica M rangefinders are not 'mirrorless cameras'. The term mirrorless camera does not just mean a camera without a mirror, or a phone would be a mirrorless camera. It is a euphemism for a camera whose viewfinder gives a continuous live view of the sensor.

The first ILC with a tilt screen was the Olympus E-330 in 2006. The second was the Sony A300 in 2008. As for flipping screens being 'all over the place', they have only very recently started to appear on cameras with any regularity. The D5, 1DxII don't have one and no 5D has ever had a tilt screen. Nikon didn't implement them on their higher end and FF cameras until 2014 and Canon still don't.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 19:55 UTC

Here are the quotes used to claim Nikon is developing a FF m/less:

"While details are confidential, we can say that we are currently developing new mirrorless products that build upon Nikon's strengths, and offer the performance prospective customers expect, including the ultimate optics performance, image-processing technologies, strength and durability, and operation."

"On the product side, we should compete in the mid-range and high-end DSLR. We aim to be the top in a genre, and earn profits even if sales are down. For a smartphone generation, we put out a very Nikon-ish mirrorless camera which is superior to rivals in quality. Making the best use of industrial lens technology, we would like to overwhelm them in lens quality. On the other hand, we need fun."

I see no indication that Nikon is developing a FF m/less camera. They actually talk about competing in the 'mid-range & high-end' DSLR sphere. The m/less product is described as being for the smartphone generation and fun.

Link | Posted on Sep 7, 2017 at 17:19 UTC as 45th comment | 1 reply
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RedFox88: Is this DPR or nikon rumors?!

@RedFox88
You managed to write a post without calling the other posters fanboys or trolls. Well done!

You're still complaining though.

Link | Posted on Sep 7, 2017 at 17:07 UTC

Honestly how gullible can people be - a 36mm 13 element 1.2 lens for a FF mirrorless?

What's moving the optical block - hydraulics?

Such a lens would be unaffordable, enormous and impossible to focus. It's likely a cine lens or something for surveillance.

Link | Posted on Sep 7, 2017 at 14:40 UTC as 73rd comment | 3 replies
On article Gallery: photographing parkour with the Sony a9 (126 comments in total)
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beavertown: This camera is the best in its class.

What were you missing? Every manufacturer has gaps in their lens line-up. Canon and Nikon have a lot of lenses but some of them are old and need replacing. Sony is bringing out lenses all the time. It's a new mount, so you can't expect it to have every type of lens available over night.

I'd lay a bet that every lens you have is available in e-mount.

It's comp-LE-ment by the way. Comp-LI-ment is when you say something nice to someone.

Link | Posted on Sep 3, 2017 at 15:51 UTC
On article Canon unveils stabilized EF 85mm F1.4L lens (530 comments in total)
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vscd: "Creating a powerful, timeless image requires more than just a camera. It requires high-quality, well-crafted optics and flashes to capture compelling photography,”

Wow. I call that a straight call onto Sony ;)

Dont accuse people of presenting false information if you then cannot prove the information is false - it's disrespectful and it makes you look foolish.

Link | Posted on Sep 3, 2017 at 15:29 UTC
On article Canon unveils stabilized EF 85mm F1.4L lens (530 comments in total)
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vscd: "Creating a powerful, timeless image requires more than just a camera. It requires high-quality, well-crafted optics and flashes to capture compelling photography,”

Wow. I call that a straight call onto Sony ;)

@cb
You're on the record as following me around this website, on one occasion pasting half a quote (addressed to someone else, incidentally) into two different threads and using childish terms of abuse like 'fanboy'. You even PM'd me to tell me 'I was full of it'.

I haven't made any personal attacks towards you.

As for my 'full of alternative facts fanboy rant', which actually contains no pro-Sony comments of any description and is not a rant since it is obviously very cooly and measuredly written - I invite you to tell me and anyone else reading what these 'alternative facts' are?

You say it is 'full' of them - which suggests a lot, so please number them.

Link | Posted on Sep 3, 2017 at 14:38 UTC
On article Canon unveils stabilized EF 85mm F1.4L lens (530 comments in total)
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vscd: "Creating a powerful, timeless image requires more than just a camera. It requires high-quality, well-crafted optics and flashes to capture compelling photography,”

Wow. I call that a straight call onto Sony ;)

@cb
Yeah, I didn't think you'd have a reply. Just try to remember it.

Link | Posted on Sep 1, 2017 at 17:03 UTC
On article Action-packed: Sony a6500 review (1181 comments in total)
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RubberDials: 'the lack of a second top plate control dial on a $1400 MSRP camera is hard to stomach.'

The Canon 1DxII has only one top plate control dial and it costs 6 grand. The Sony system is identical to Canon - one wheel on top and a thumbwheel at the back and yet Sony gets a sledging and I have never heard Canon criticised once in all the years they've been doing it. An example of some of the irrational thinking that underpins this review.

The style is reminiscent of the A7II test, where the archetype that the camera was being judged against shifted depending on the feature being assessed. Here we get lots of criticism on the handling as if the camera were being compared to a DSLR, then the claim that the reviewer is not impressed by the IBIS, where the camera is suddenly compared to Micro 4/3.

The reviewer knows he's being unfair, because he writes: 'Of course both the cameras mentioned use smaller sensors, which in theory should be easier to move around.'

Finally you didn't mention it, but I wonder if you would concede that

'But for the rest of us, picking up a Sony for the first time can feel confusing, frustrating and uninspiring.'

shouldn't be in the published review? It is not the partiality that offends me, just the inaccuracy. You realise that Sony users don't feel this?

Link | Posted on Sep 1, 2017 at 16:51 UTC
On article Action-packed: Sony a6500 review (1181 comments in total)
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RubberDials: 'the lack of a second top plate control dial on a $1400 MSRP camera is hard to stomach.'

The Canon 1DxII has only one top plate control dial and it costs 6 grand. The Sony system is identical to Canon - one wheel on top and a thumbwheel at the back and yet Sony gets a sledging and I have never heard Canon criticised once in all the years they've been doing it. An example of some of the irrational thinking that underpins this review.

The style is reminiscent of the A7II test, where the archetype that the camera was being judged against shifted depending on the feature being assessed. Here we get lots of criticism on the handling as if the camera were being compared to a DSLR, then the claim that the reviewer is not impressed by the IBIS, where the camera is suddenly compared to Micro 4/3.

The reviewer knows he's being unfair, because he writes: 'Of course both the cameras mentioned use smaller sensors, which in theory should be easier to move around.'

It's hard not to shake the sense that if Nikon had it and not Sony, it's absence on other brands would be mentioned in every review.

And as I said, the A6500 review (although it is much better) reminded me of the A7II review which was also a first with IBIS - the first full frame mirrorless. For many of us this was the narrative - the chance to get stabilised images from some of the legacy lenses that we had as well as lenses from other brands. It made the camera seem particularly desirable. Instead the review was haunted by the D750, with which it was compared and found wanting in terms of it's sensor. Of course the Nikon was not slated for not having IBIS or the ability to use lenses from other brands. Again the comparison was presented as valid as many possible A7II users would also be considering the D750. I simply don't accept that. Rishi once remarked that perhaps that review needed 'another look.'

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Link | Posted on Sep 1, 2017 at 16:51 UTC
On article Action-packed: Sony a6500 review (1181 comments in total)
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RubberDials: 'the lack of a second top plate control dial on a $1400 MSRP camera is hard to stomach.'

The Canon 1DxII has only one top plate control dial and it costs 6 grand. The Sony system is identical to Canon - one wheel on top and a thumbwheel at the back and yet Sony gets a sledging and I have never heard Canon criticised once in all the years they've been doing it. An example of some of the irrational thinking that underpins this review.

The style is reminiscent of the A7II test, where the archetype that the camera was being judged against shifted depending on the feature being assessed. Here we get lots of criticism on the handling as if the camera were being compared to a DSLR, then the claim that the reviewer is not impressed by the IBIS, where the camera is suddenly compared to Micro 4/3.

The reviewer knows he's being unfair, because he writes: 'Of course both the cameras mentioned use smaller sensors, which in theory should be easier to move around.'

Everyone 'needs' IS, but it is not going to be the sole driver of which system you choose. The idea that there will be a user who might be considering the D500, A6500 and EM5II is not really credible. I realise that this is essentially a foil for you to write the review, but it has the unfortunate effect of coming down extra harshly on an innovative camera like the A6500. This I believe is what CCD above is alluding to in his comment that Sony is required to exceed the achievements of other manufacturers.

This brings me to IBIS, which is a very sore point for most Sony users. It first appeared in a DSLR in 2004. Yet its continued and baffling absence in Nikon and Canon DSLRs has never raised the peep of a Con in review. Criticising the A6500's IBIS - still the only IBIS in an aps-c mirrorless one year after its introduction - for not being as good as that of M43 seems simply unfair, when no-one else is criticised for not having it.

Cont.

Link | Posted on Sep 1, 2017 at 16:51 UTC
On article Action-packed: Sony a6500 review (1181 comments in total)
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RubberDials: 'the lack of a second top plate control dial on a $1400 MSRP camera is hard to stomach.'

The Canon 1DxII has only one top plate control dial and it costs 6 grand. The Sony system is identical to Canon - one wheel on top and a thumbwheel at the back and yet Sony gets a sledging and I have never heard Canon criticised once in all the years they've been doing it. An example of some of the irrational thinking that underpins this review.

The style is reminiscent of the A7II test, where the archetype that the camera was being judged against shifted depending on the feature being assessed. Here we get lots of criticism on the handling as if the camera were being compared to a DSLR, then the claim that the reviewer is not impressed by the IBIS, where the camera is suddenly compared to Micro 4/3.

The reviewer knows he's being unfair, because he writes: 'Of course both the cameras mentioned use smaller sensors, which in theory should be easier to move around.'

Sony created an entirely new kind of camera when the made the NEX5 - which wasn't very good, but essentially gave birth to the FF mirrorless cameras we have now. Talking about the A6500's handling as if it was a Nikon D500 or 80D seems slightly ignorant to me. These cameras are literally rubber stamped from an archetype designed thirty years ago.

For a simple image of Sony's achievement just imagine the A6500 or A9 as a Canon and Nikon product. You can't, really. You wrote a very good article on why a possible Canon FF mirrorless was unlikely to use EF mount. (Sadly it was destined to fall on the deafest ears in photography). But there isn't a FF Canon mirrorless, and there isn't likely to be one in the near future either. In a very real way you can't compare the A6500 to a m43 or DSLR - certainly not a composite camera, which you can't actually buy - which is what the review does. You do it in your comment as well, when you say; 'If you need IS (...) '.

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Link | Posted on Sep 1, 2017 at 16:50 UTC
On article Action-packed: Sony a6500 review (1181 comments in total)
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RubberDials: 'the lack of a second top plate control dial on a $1400 MSRP camera is hard to stomach.'

The Canon 1DxII has only one top plate control dial and it costs 6 grand. The Sony system is identical to Canon - one wheel on top and a thumbwheel at the back and yet Sony gets a sledging and I have never heard Canon criticised once in all the years they've been doing it. An example of some of the irrational thinking that underpins this review.

The style is reminiscent of the A7II test, where the archetype that the camera was being judged against shifted depending on the feature being assessed. Here we get lots of criticism on the handling as if the camera were being compared to a DSLR, then the claim that the reviewer is not impressed by the IBIS, where the camera is suddenly compared to Micro 4/3.

The reviewer knows he's being unfair, because he writes: 'Of course both the cameras mentioned use smaller sensors, which in theory should be easier to move around.'

You're smart guys, what's the point of talking about the handling and the price as if this camera just dropped out of the sky when in fact it is an evolution of a much humbler model?

Adding a thumbwheel to the design is probably impossible - even for Sony - without essentially junking the mould and starting again. Sure they could do that, but then you wouldn't have had the NEX6. 7, A6000 and A6300. Had the A6500 been conceived as an individual standalone product and not grown like the branch of a tree it would have a body like the A7 series - a design that Canon copied almost exactly with it's late-to-the-party M5.

Now, I don't mean that you should cut Sony slack on any handling deficiencies because of this, but just consider how Sony is filling-in the map as they go and that most of their competitors haven't even left the docks.

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Link | Posted on Sep 1, 2017 at 16:49 UTC
On article Action-packed: Sony a6500 review (1181 comments in total)
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RubberDials: 'the lack of a second top plate control dial on a $1400 MSRP camera is hard to stomach.'

The Canon 1DxII has only one top plate control dial and it costs 6 grand. The Sony system is identical to Canon - one wheel on top and a thumbwheel at the back and yet Sony gets a sledging and I have never heard Canon criticised once in all the years they've been doing it. An example of some of the irrational thinking that underpins this review.

The style is reminiscent of the A7II test, where the archetype that the camera was being judged against shifted depending on the feature being assessed. Here we get lots of criticism on the handling as if the camera were being compared to a DSLR, then the claim that the reviewer is not impressed by the IBIS, where the camera is suddenly compared to Micro 4/3.

The reviewer knows he's being unfair, because he writes: 'Of course both the cameras mentioned use smaller sensors, which in theory should be easier to move around.'

@Richard
Having stated many times that the site under you and your colleagues is better than it's ever been and that I would even pay for access to it, I don't think we need to go down the 'paid off by manufacturers' route. I am not accusing anyone of being anti-Sony or even of conscious bias.

The A6500 review is actually very good and is consistent and seems fair - apart from the points I raised. You do make the distinction that the two dials need to be controlled with the same digit - and that does make it less usable, true, but there is more to say about the absence of the front dial.

The Sony A6xxx bodies are the only ILCs Sony has made since they first started producing DSLRs in 2006 without a front thumbwheel. Every other model has had one. The reason is that the series grew iteratively out of a much simpler (and smaller) camera - the NEX5.

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Link | Posted on Sep 1, 2017 at 16:48 UTC
On article Canon unveils stabilized EF 85mm F1.4L lens (530 comments in total)
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vscd: "Creating a powerful, timeless image requires more than just a camera. It requires high-quality, well-crafted optics and flashes to capture compelling photography,”

Wow. I call that a straight call onto Sony ;)

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Your comment that I made my original joke to 'deflect from the fact that Sony doesn't have a native 300' suggests you don't take my posts at face value and are projecting your own thoughts onto what I write.

I think some of the problem is that you and (possibly Tony Wong) are not native English speakers. So for example when I asked you if you knew what a rhetorical question was you began referring to the adjective rhetorical: 'I am very well aware of the definition of rhetorical.' I did not ask you that. A 'rhetorical question' is a noun and it has nothing to do with the adjective 'rhetorical'.

As ever in your posts you resort to ad hominem attacks and I see here you liken me to Trump again, which is intended as an insult and is received as one.

Link | Posted on Aug 31, 2017 at 16:32 UTC
On article Canon unveils stabilized EF 85mm F1.4L lens (530 comments in total)
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vscd: "Creating a powerful, timeless image requires more than just a camera. It requires high-quality, well-crafted optics and flashes to capture compelling photography,”

Wow. I call that a straight call onto Sony ;)

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Your claim that this was somehow 'explained to me' is wrong. The thread you allude to is here:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/7147286814/canon-opens-its-most-advanced-service-support-center-yet-in-burbank

Tony Wong either didn't understand or didn't read properly the point I was making. He then thought he could get one over on me by talking about t-stops which he thought I'd never heard of (even though my original comment depended on a knowledge of t-stops and the difference between the size of the iris opening and the actual amount of transmitted light.

He was forced to drop this when I linked to an earlier post revealing that - unsurprisingly - I had heard of t-stops.

That you are repeating his mistake shows you either stopped reading the thread whilst continuing to post, forgot what transpired, or didn't understand the original or subsequent point.

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Link | Posted on Aug 31, 2017 at 16:31 UTC
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