rrccad

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rrccad: of course Damien, you get the one major important fact wrong here. it's shipments from suppliers, not sales; and value is a little more nebulous.

those will always trend depending on new releases.

but as far as mirrorless versus DSLR; the tide was going to change once Canon decided to seriously ship mirrorless cameras. By all their quarterly reports, for the last 4-5 reports, they suggest a significant uptick in mirrorless sales and shipments.

not really it's basic common sense. if you have 9 vendors shipping and selling product A and 2 vendors shipping and selling product B, the patterns of A will be alot less random than B when most of the product lifecycle is shipped during it's initial period.

I think you're grasping at straws thinking that this sub thread is anything to do with denial.

I've always stated mirrorless will be the defacto - but only when canon and nikon deem it as such.

Even today, Sony has less than a 14% marketshare, Olympus has 5% and canon has 48%.

Mirrorless will be adopted but it won't be Sony, Olympus,et all leading the way in the marketplace doing so.

Link | Posted on Jun 11, 2017 at 01:12 UTC
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Negative287: So, think about how this could potentially change the entire landscape of photography for generations to come.

Right now the only companies committed to the technology are Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony... With Nikon mostly abandoning their failed entry level model, and Canon half heartedly releasing bodies that are good, but not so good that they will affect their cash cow.

It's looking more and more like the new big 3 will be Fuji, Sony, and M4/3 (Olympus and Panasonic). The only area that needs improving right now, deal with the AF capabilities of many of the mirrorless brands.

Oh and Pentax is a bit of an after thought in every phase.

and DPAF and related sensor technology isn't innovation?

Link | Posted on Jun 11, 2017 at 01:08 UTC
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ttran88: If you got a dslr within the past 5yrs there's really no reason to upgrade or buy another. Nothing much has improved to making your life easier.
Still need to micro adjust lenses ✔️ , Still need to Move focus points around or focus and recompose for portraits ✔️, shooting in live view still sucks ✔️, would still rather use your iPhone for videos ✔️, still loud and clunky ✔️, 100% viewfinder is for the rich only ✔️, still too heavy/big so it's collecting dust on the shelf ✔️. 😊

how is a 80D or a D5600 "only for the rich" when it comes to viewfinders?

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 23:07 UTC
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Negative287: So, think about how this could potentially change the entire landscape of photography for generations to come.

Right now the only companies committed to the technology are Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony... With Nikon mostly abandoning their failed entry level model, and Canon half heartedly releasing bodies that are good, but not so good that they will affect their cash cow.

It's looking more and more like the new big 3 will be Fuji, Sony, and M4/3 (Olympus and Panasonic). The only area that needs improving right now, deal with the AF capabilities of many of the mirrorless brands.

Oh and Pentax is a bit of an after thought in every phase.

Well canon from a 2 year YoY has increased it's marketshare around 3-4% and maintained around a 14% profit ratio - which is still highest in industry from what we can actually tell.

it's hard to say they need to move quicker, alot of their R&D was obviously surrounding dual pixel sensors getting "good" enough, and while they are close, they still aren't quite there yet.

20 million AF sensors takes some processing power you'd think.

also their M5 and M6 that dont' get much love, are probably some of the more compact ergonomic friendly mirrorless out there. Lenses? MIA, however canon has shown that it could fix that in a big hurry if they feel the need. just have to check to see how many EF lenses came out at the start, and how fast.

Nikon is a little hard to figure out, the liveview / potential for mirrorless isn't there in their DSLR's as it is for canon and we haven't seen the progression. Breaking from the F mount just doesn't seem in Nikon's DNA.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 23:03 UTC
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justmeMN: The biggest loser in this trend is Nikon, with its dormant-to-dead Nikon 1 line.

Canon M doesn't get much love on DPR, but I understand that they sell quite well in Asia.

probably alot of they purchase an 11-22 beacuse there's no comparable out there outside of canon and nikon's DSLR lineups that have a UWA for $500 or less that is even close to comparable.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 22:58 UTC
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TwoMetreBill: CIPA is shipments, not sales. The conclusions in this article, while possibly true, are wishful thinking. Fake news.

actually they aren't or you wouldn't see mirrorless on firesales a year after manufacturer.

Olympus spent a better part of a year clearing E-PL6/7 stock to the tune of shipping it out basically giving the body away with a lens kit.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 22:57 UTC
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AbrasiveReducer: When I use mirrorless, it's because it's smaller and lighter. But when Nikon and Canon's FF mirrorless cameras arrive, they won't be that small and light, with a lens attached. Sure, there will be articles about guys discovering how good a prime lens is and their Leica-like experience. But in terms of size and weight, a full frame mirrorless outfit will be similar to a small SLR outfit.

So...Nikon and Canon will make a set of pancakes. These lenses will be jewels, small, light, sharp & cheap. But, to have the capabilty of a complete outfit, you will still need one or two big lenses.

And that brings you back to where we are now. If you want to put a big lens that you already own on a small body, you can get a Sony. If you're willing to give up interchangable lenses for compactness, you can get a Fuji. Enthusiasts may see this differently, but imagine if there was a camera system that appealed to all the phone and tablet users. Then you'd see sales numbers go up.

the sony 24-70 2.8 isnt' stabilized.. what are you talking about?

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 22:56 UTC
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Philnw2: Mirrorless has had 4 months of very nice increases in sales (in the 40% plus arena) in 2017. After each month, the "deniers" state that its an anomaly and meaningless. Well the dslr owners may consider such information to be too short term for any conclusions, but i'm pretty certain that the number of articles criticizing Nikon shows that the mfr are not ignoring the mirrorless trend.

One criticism i've seen of mirrorless is these "compare pictures" posts which typically show a f1.4 85mm lens on a Sony FF camera compared to a DSLR - and the conclusion by that writer says: "See there is no value to a mirrorless camera". Well the thing is small mirrorless camera designs such as the Sony FF cameras, will allow one to put large or small lenses on. Its your option. An FE 85 F1.4 is going to weigh more than an A-mount 85 f2.8 or even an FE 85 f1.8.

It will be interesting when Canon and Nikon go FF with a mirrorless, whether they try to go with a small body or large body or both.

yeah tom it shows me a contrast blocked up 8 bit jpg of what I'll get .. which is exactly what i'll get if i was using a phone camera and not a ILC.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 22:55 UTC
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rrccad: of course Damien, you get the one major important fact wrong here. it's shipments from suppliers, not sales; and value is a little more nebulous.

those will always trend depending on new releases.

but as far as mirrorless versus DSLR; the tide was going to change once Canon decided to seriously ship mirrorless cameras. By all their quarterly reports, for the last 4-5 reports, they suggest a significant uptick in mirrorless sales and shipments.

not exactly the same application when you have a disparate number of vendors.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 22:54 UTC
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AbrasiveReducer: When I use mirrorless, it's because it's smaller and lighter. But when Nikon and Canon's FF mirrorless cameras arrive, they won't be that small and light, with a lens attached. Sure, there will be articles about guys discovering how good a prime lens is and their Leica-like experience. But in terms of size and weight, a full frame mirrorless outfit will be similar to a small SLR outfit.

So...Nikon and Canon will make a set of pancakes. These lenses will be jewels, small, light, sharp & cheap. But, to have the capabilty of a complete outfit, you will still need one or two big lenses.

And that brings you back to where we are now. If you want to put a big lens that you already own on a small body, you can get a Sony. If you're willing to give up interchangable lenses for compactness, you can get a Fuji. Enthusiasts may see this differently, but imagine if there was a camera system that appealed to all the phone and tablet users. Then you'd see sales numbers go up.

ultimately for a full frame kit of normal lenses that actually people use, and not esoteric primes your kit will end up weighing in around the same for mirrorless or not, if you match aperture. you're not going to get a significant difference in weight between a 24-70, 70-200 2.8 .. pretty normal kit between a 6D and a mirrorless equivalent.

Not to mention the mirrorless equivalent will be around the same size to have the ergonomics.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 20:50 UTC
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Philnw2: Mirrorless has had 4 months of very nice increases in sales (in the 40% plus arena) in 2017. After each month, the "deniers" state that its an anomaly and meaningless. Well the dslr owners may consider such information to be too short term for any conclusions, but i'm pretty certain that the number of articles criticizing Nikon shows that the mfr are not ignoring the mirrorless trend.

One criticism i've seen of mirrorless is these "compare pictures" posts which typically show a f1.4 85mm lens on a Sony FF camera compared to a DSLR - and the conclusion by that writer says: "See there is no value to a mirrorless camera". Well the thing is small mirrorless camera designs such as the Sony FF cameras, will allow one to put large or small lenses on. Its your option. An FE 85 F1.4 is going to weigh more than an A-mount 85 f2.8 or even an FE 85 f1.8.

It will be interesting when Canon and Nikon go FF with a mirrorless, whether they try to go with a small body or large body or both.

the body size determines the ergonomics. I guess if canon or nikon wants to do cramped horrid ergonomics such as the current mirrorless cameras, then they will be small. if they want to have a variety of haptic buttons, good controls and a good grip, then they will be larger, much like their current cameras. the M5 i currently have probably has the best viewfinder ergonomics out there from AF, to changing any setting without removing my eye from the viewfinder, and it's lightyears away from an XD level of ergonomics.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 20:44 UTC

of course Damien, you get the one major important fact wrong here. it's shipments from suppliers, not sales; and value is a little more nebulous.

those will always trend depending on new releases.

but as far as mirrorless versus DSLR; the tide was going to change once Canon decided to seriously ship mirrorless cameras. By all their quarterly reports, for the last 4-5 reports, they suggest a significant uptick in mirrorless sales and shipments.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 20:40 UTC as 24th comment | 8 replies
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csxfan: this is old news... i picked mine up back in july for 329. the ultra wide is nice, but suffers from nasty barrel roll. can be some what corrected in software, but still present. the 50 f1.8 is nice for the price.

-2.4% isnt that much..

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 02:51 UTC
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csxfan: this is old news... i picked mine up back in july for 329. the ultra wide is nice, but suffers from nasty barrel roll. can be some what corrected in software, but still present. the 50 f1.8 is nice for the price.

Barrel roll? Attach it to a camera and it won't roll so much.

Link | Posted on Jun 10, 2017 at 00:35 UTC
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Advent1sam: Cameraphone images are really low fi still, even on an iPad they look very very crude.
Maybe on its camera display at that size they are acceptable, but generally they are every bit a tiny sensor with too many pixels!

for the majority of viewing, it's really a "who the hell cares" when it comes to sharpening, when most images aren't viewed over 1.5MP, corse sharpening probably "looks better" for the default crowd.

Also you can set it to shoot JPG+DNG, so really it's a no brainer to resolve.

Link | Posted on Jun 5, 2017 at 16:37 UTC
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noisephotographer: I much prefer a longer focal length (at least twofold focal length) instead of this extreme ultra wide angle lens (11mm field of view?) that even has a lot of distortion. I can't understand why LG did this. For the average photographer a 25mm lens and a 50mm lens would be much more versatile than 30mm and 11mm.

only if you are in conditions for stitching and panoramas, I find it very useful .. so don't tell me .. "no".. if you were.

I shoot mostly UWA with an ILC, so having a smartphone with the same perspective is very useful. obviously you can't shoot people with it, unless you are careful.

Link | Posted on Jun 5, 2017 at 16:28 UTC
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Zoom Zoom Zoom: Phone cameras keep improving. Huge steps above what they were a few years ago. But in the end, its all the same thing and they all look the same.. low-resolution, low DR, limited DOF (or worse, fake), noise everywhere and a permanent oil-painting look from too much NR applied. As long as the sensors are as small as they are, this will never change. iPhone, Samsung, LG, Sony and everyone else in between.. with small variations and different processing algorithms, all phones yield about the same results. All it takes is a bigger sensor for real improvement in image quality.. instantly. Is that simple.

@a777 .. it's easy.. he's obviously high.

Link | Posted on Jun 5, 2017 at 15:37 UTC
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noisephotographer: I much prefer a longer focal length (at least twofold focal length) instead of this extreme ultra wide angle lens (11mm field of view?) that even has a lot of distortion. I can't understand why LG did this. For the average photographer a 25mm lens and a 50mm lens would be much more versatile than 30mm and 11mm.

the UWA is why i purchased a G5. it's extremely useful.

Link | Posted on Jun 5, 2017 at 15:36 UTC
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I enjoy my G5.. will have to upgrade.

Link | Posted on Jun 4, 2017 at 19:47 UTC as 32nd comment
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Tommi K1: Is it a true raw, or raw like in a RED?

completely untrue that raws have no compression. they have lossless compression, and every frame is a full image but compression is still valid.

Link | Posted on Jun 2, 2017 at 15:34 UTC
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