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RubberDials: These are the sales figures that matter:

FF mirrorless sales

Sony - 99.9%
Leica - 0.1%
Canon - 0%

poor RD, just can't handle it when his precious sony doesn't look as good as it does when he brushes off the specs of dust of his sony camera sitting up on the mantelpiece.

here's a news flash for you. if you have the ability to stay your invented stats are "important" anyone and everyone else has the same and equal rights to say, no, they aren't. if you don't like it snowflake, your safespot is the sony forums or SAR where you may have better luck.

Sony's full frame mirrorless stats aren't important because they compete in the same ecospace as full frame cameras from Pentax, Canon and Nikon, and when it really comes down to it.. less than 14% is the magic number for Sony when it comes to how well it fairs against it's competition, and no amount of fanboy weeping will change that. No matter how much you attempt to invent up statistics on the fly.

Link | Posted on Jan 19, 2018 at 20:20 UTC
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RubberDials: These are the sales figures that matter:

FF mirrorless sales

Sony - 99.9%
Leica - 0.1%
Canon - 0%

they hardly matter at all.

Link | Posted on Jan 19, 2018 at 12:16 UTC
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PVCdroid: This comes out every year and is completely irrelevant to whats going on in the industry and is filtered to get the incorrect results. Yea right, Canon mirrorless beats Sony.

I bet you didn't say the same thing when Sony was #1. Not to mention "is filtered to get the incorrect results." .. claiming fake news as well? sad!

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2018 at 23:06 UTC
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Dan Wells: The fact that this is Japanese domestic market data is highly relevant, especially in mirrorless. The smallest viewfinderless mirrorless designs sell MUCH better in Japan than in the US and Europe. Thom Hogan (I believe) had a breakdown on this a few years ago. EOS-M had significant market share in Japan long before the newer designs with viewfinders appealed more to Western tastes, and the Olympus EP-L line (also lacking a viewfinder) sell well in Japan. I don't know what the ultra-compact mirrorless replaces? small DSLRs? Phone cameras? Fixed lens compacts don't sell well anywhere... My recollection is that higher-end mirrorless sells about as well as a percentage of camera sales in Japan as anywhere else, but that total mirrorless share is much higher, with the difference being made up by tiny, low-end viewfinderless models that barely sell in many other markets
I don't know if DSLR tastes vary much by country, so the rankings of DSLR makers could be similar to their global ranks?

Thom Hogan also prefers a Canon M5 over any of the Sony A6000 series camera bodies.

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2018 at 16:22 UTC
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Tatouzou: Where are Panasonic M43 in the ILC mirrorless still cameras?

" but that's presumably stills/video hybrid cameras."

what are you talking about?

digital video has sony, panasonic and canon in third. that's not hybrid stills/video that's pure video. as in video camcorders,etc.

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2018 at 16:20 UTC
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panther fan: So let's see how meaningfull those results are. In Japan According to the BCN Olympus lead mirrorless with 27.7% market share. Let's see the data published by olympus themself:
https://www.olympus-global.com/ir/data/brief/pdf/financial150PA.pdf
They expect for the fiscal year 2018 (ending march 31 2018) a shipment of 490000 ILC.
If you use the CIPA data from march to november 2017 and replace december to march with data from last year you end up with:
11.6% mirrorless market share and
4.1% ILC market share

So it seems that the market in japan doesn't correlate well with world wide shipping. Let's hope other companies will some day publish similar data.

@panther fan, read their speech summaries, they always break it down there.

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2018 at 14:17 UTC
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panther fan: So let's see how meaningfull those results are. In Japan According to the BCN Olympus lead mirrorless with 27.7% market share. Let's see the data published by olympus themself:
https://www.olympus-global.com/ir/data/brief/pdf/financial150PA.pdf
They expect for the fiscal year 2018 (ending march 31 2018) a shipment of 490000 ILC.
If you use the CIPA data from march to november 2017 and replace december to march with data from last year you end up with:
11.6% mirrorless market share and
4.1% ILC market share

So it seems that the market in japan doesn't correlate well with world wide shipping. Let's hope other companies will some day publish similar data.

canon does.. nikon does.. the only one that distorts their data is really sony .. the others are too small to really care about.

Link | Posted on Jan 18, 2018 at 02:19 UTC
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Peter 1745: In the mirrorless sector the % sold by the first 3 adds up to 69.2%.
This leaves 30.8% unaccounted for. Most of this will be Fuji and Panasonic sales.
Their sales must be fairly close to each other for each of them to be below Sony's 20.2% . I would guess each has a 15+-2% market share. I wouldn't like to say which has the larger sales.

they were last year on amazon.jp .. doesn't seem to be any left now though.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 22:47 UTC
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Jozef-S: I hope Sony and Olympus up their game. We need at least 4 companies for the more intense competition and innovation.

Sony "driving the entire digital imaging sector" also isn't reflected in their global marketshare of only 14%

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 22:45 UTC
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LessMirrored19: 20% of Sony's 4500$ 3200$ 2000$ sales don't equal to 20% of canon's M5/M6 .... Misleading information

except sony is very active in japan with the A5000,A5100 and A6000 selling them off as discounts. so good theory, probably bad in practice.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 22:44 UTC
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ttran88: Sony needs to sell more low end gear like the Canon EOS M..

they sell the A5000 and A5100 for 52,000 and 57,000 yen respectively. A6000 for 57,000 yen

the canon m10 is 48,000 and m100 is 66,000.

seems like they are pretty much equal in that regard. the difference is 4,000 yen or around 44 USD between them.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 22:42 UTC
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evilmagicnut: I expect those percentages are percentage of units sold. I'd be interested to know what the Canon / Sony / Olympus mirrorless breakdown is when you start talking revenue.

Olympus sells older PENS for cents on the dollar, Sony's been basically giving away the A5100 for a while now

everyone does it in japan.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 22:15 UTC
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Peter 1745: In the mirrorless sector the % sold by the first 3 adds up to 69.2%.
This leaves 30.8% unaccounted for. Most of this will be Fuji and Panasonic sales.
Their sales must be fairly close to each other for each of them to be below Sony's 20.2% . I would guess each has a 15+-2% market share. I wouldn't like to say which has the larger sales.

Fuji Panasonic and Nikon the Nikon 1 does sell in Japan.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 22:11 UTC
On article Sony E 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS sample gallery (154 comments in total)
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Woodyz: It's my pet theory that this was one of the earlier planned lenses when APS-C E-mount was hot. When Sony decided to spend resources on FF E-mount lenses, it put this lens in the backburner.

But now Sony had to release *something* to show continuing support for the APS-C glass lineup, so it dug this thing up and off it went to production.

Don't expect to see more new APS-C E-mount lenses any time soon.

"I think a lot of people (fairly or not) tend not to count third party glass when they make those criticisms"

yeah usually third party doesn't come into play here. for alot of people, they wouldn't consider third party.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 16:49 UTC
On article Sony E 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS sample gallery (154 comments in total)
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Andrei C: Why so much hate ? I think the photos look great. What do you expect from a big zoom range, to shoot like a prime ? :)

obviously there's MTF's and then there is reality.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 16:27 UTC
On article Sony E 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS sample gallery (154 comments in total)
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FodgeandDurn: So there is already an 18-105 f4, three variants of the 18-200 f3.5-6.3's, and now this, an 18-135 F3.5-5.6.

I left the Sony E APS-C system (rather bitterly at the time) because they had a serious lack of useful lenses, specifically primes and wide aperture zooms, which other systems have in abundance (I went to Fuji).

Please speak up if I am off base, but are any Sony APS-C users hailing this as the answer to all their (long, long, long-standing) prayers? I wonder how Sony figured this was the killer lens their lineup was missing?

Samsung had a dream APS-C zoom, the 16-50 f2-2.8, and they left the market several years ago. C'mon Sony, I feel embarrassed for you (even if you're nailing it elsewhere).

18-200 is a little more optically compromised than 18-135. in theory the 18-135 should perform better and be smaller than the superzooms.

Link | Posted on Jan 17, 2018 at 16:26 UTC
On article On Assignment with Kylie Mazon and the Canon EOS M6 (129 comments in total)
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Photato: I find hard to come with a compelling reason why a full time pro photographer would use a M6 for paid work. The ergonomics are compromised by its size and its functionality purposely limited. If you are a Pro you want tools that enable not limit you.
I own this camera and while the size together with the M lenses is light and compact I use it mostly for personal stuff and rare commercial photography.
The still quality is there but I'm very frustrated by how Canon handicap this camera.
For instance, it is unacceptable that the smartphone app doesn't let you start a video or focus remotely even though this camera is supposedly aimed at Vloggers. My much older Pany LX100 can do that.
You can't transfers Raw images to smartphones, not even from the Raw embedded JPEGs.
If portable is one of the key selling points, I'd like to see USB charging and Digital Zoom/Crop feature when you are not bringing a big heavy zoom lens with you or video.

By the way, great video production from DPR

"Alastair, the real reason why a Pro is using the M6 here is because Canon hired her to do this marketing material. Don't confuse fact with fiction."

actually usually with dpreview "sponsored" usually means that Canon supplied the equipment for the shoot at no cost.

Unless you have actual proof of the arrangement and if so, please share.

Link | Posted on Jan 16, 2018 at 17:20 UTC
On article On Assignment with Kylie Mazon and the Canon EOS M6 (129 comments in total)
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BackToTheBasics: I had EOS M3 and EF adapter. That camera and adapted lenses really made me hate photographing. I sold it few months later and bought a DSLR and oh boy is it joy to use.

The M3 was the worst camera that canon ever created. The M5 and M6 are far better.

Link | Posted on Jan 16, 2018 at 17:16 UTC
On article Sony E 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS sample gallery (154 comments in total)
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FodgeandDurn: So there is already an 18-105 f4, three variants of the 18-200 f3.5-6.3's, and now this, an 18-135 F3.5-5.6.

I left the Sony E APS-C system (rather bitterly at the time) because they had a serious lack of useful lenses, specifically primes and wide aperture zooms, which other systems have in abundance (I went to Fuji).

Please speak up if I am off base, but are any Sony APS-C users hailing this as the answer to all their (long, long, long-standing) prayers? I wonder how Sony figured this was the killer lens their lineup was missing?

Samsung had a dream APS-C zoom, the 16-50 f2-2.8, and they left the market several years ago. C'mon Sony, I feel embarrassed for you (even if you're nailing it elsewhere).

to be honest, primes are kind of overrated for the general public. a great zoom will grab the attention of far more people.

at the rate sony is coming out with FE lenses, it is simply a matter of finite resources really to why the E lenses and A mount suffer a bit.

Link | Posted on Jan 16, 2018 at 16:25 UTC
On article Sony E 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS sample gallery (154 comments in total)
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FodgeandDurn: So there is already an 18-105 f4, three variants of the 18-200 f3.5-6.3's, and now this, an 18-135 F3.5-5.6.

I left the Sony E APS-C system (rather bitterly at the time) because they had a serious lack of useful lenses, specifically primes and wide aperture zooms, which other systems have in abundance (I went to Fuji).

Please speak up if I am off base, but are any Sony APS-C users hailing this as the answer to all their (long, long, long-standing) prayers? I wonder how Sony figured this was the killer lens their lineup was missing?

Samsung had a dream APS-C zoom, the 16-50 f2-2.8, and they left the market several years ago. C'mon Sony, I feel embarrassed for you (even if you're nailing it elsewhere).

18-135 is a pretty useful range for lenses. I use the EF-M 18-150 and it's turning out to be my favorite walk around lens as was the 18-135 IS USM on APS-C DSLR's.

Link | Posted on Jan 16, 2018 at 16:02 UTC
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