KariP

KariP

Lives in Finland Helsinki, Finland
Joined on Oct 26, 2007
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Trying to become a better photographer, slowly. Amateur ...

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On article DPReview TV: Canon cameras - The good and the bad (578 comments in total)

This video discussion did not help me at all. It made me uneasy. And very likely I'm not going to check more of these videos. I did choose Canon some 14-15 years ago and that was because some Nikon DSLR model was not available when I bought my first ILC that did not use film. And I'm a canonist obviously. Because Nikon was late.

Then I have upgraded my systems , but NOT because some brand is "always" better than some other brand. Canon had some real problems with dynamic range (compared to others) before 80D and 5DMkIV came to shops. About 6-7 years ago.

Jump from 5DMkIV (OVF) to R6 (EVF) and some RF lenses really was an upgrade. And i hope I can sometimes make better images.
Why should I take part in competition between brands when all cameras and best of the brands are better than my skills? What will be the next significant jump after R6 - and when ?

Link | Posted on May 8, 2022 at 18:57 UTC as 29th comment
On article Landscape Composition - Part 3: Negative space (86 comments in total)

Of course these images are quite impressive ! I just can not see how I could use this way of thinking and using "negative space". To me this is like a way to explain afterwards why some images look better than the others.
There are many ways and rules to make compositions - some are perhaps something we have in our brains and before we can read photography books. And the same "laws" are surprisingly mathematical - Fibonacci numbers and golden ratio can be seen in nature and in many biological things. And human face looks more beautiful if it has certain (mathematical) proportions... we like beauty without knowing the math

Link | Posted on Feb 8, 2022 at 07:20 UTC as 14th comment | 1 reply
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Alex Hanin: The issue is not whether images are post-processed or not, or how close they are to the real world.

The real difference is between editing in an open way to create the look you're after (however unreal it may seem), and faking reality. When a photographer publishes a B&W picture, he's not pretending the colors are real, he's not trying to trick you. It seems to me that some photographers of this kind of contest, on the other hand, try hard to make you believe they are showing you reality, when they are not.

The time is fast approaching when those not so honest photographers will get away with it. Soon, there will be no way to know whether a picture is a more or less faithful representation of reality, a reality-inspired Photoshop creation, or an AI-generated image. At that point, I guess photography will be purely commercial, purely "art" (or what passes for art), or purely personal.

Old masters like Ansel Adams spent days or even years to do the best possible "post processing" for their iconic black and white analog images. Check the story how he made his most famous photograph Moonrise, Hernandez. Faithful representation of reality ?

Link | Posted on Feb 5, 2022 at 21:26 UTC

Almost all look like extraterrestrial - or from some very visual fantastic sci-fi movie. Only the black and white image looks in a way like "old school" perhaps a couple of others too . Post processing is not a sin and it has always been part of the skills a good photographer must have. All great masters from 20th century could do wonders in the darkroom if/when they had some artistic vision. And a good negative to start with. The best photographers do it so that we do not realise how much skillful PP has been done. We believe our own eyes. Now these great images show that these photographers really know how to use their software and all possible plug ins. I can not really believe in what i see. I'm rather sure they are also great photographers, but that is just an assumption.

Link | Posted on Feb 5, 2022 at 20:11 UTC as 54th comment

I do not know who chooses and buys a new camera after reading this comparison. What was the point ? A R6 as a first camera ?
Semi-professional or enthusiastic photographers have very likely chosen Canon, Sony or Nikon FF camera/camp before these two great cameras. For example i had some Canon lenses that i could/want not give away. And i saw no reason to move to some other unknown ergonomic camp or system .. i bought a R6 ... Sony or Nikon owners probably share my view.

Link | Posted on Dec 19, 2021 at 10:25 UTC as 35th comment | 2 replies
On article DPReview TV: Canon EOS R3 final review (759 comments in total)
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gavin: Nice review. Its a specialist camera so all the non targeted group will complain about it. I was very impressed by the Z9 pricing and I hope it will force Canon to respond.

WHY should Canon or Sony or Nikon immediately respond to price difference? A sportsphotographer who owns several Long white L lenses worth 20000-30000€ Is not looking more closely at a possibility to ”save” 500€

Link | Posted on Nov 22, 2021 at 19:48 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Canon EOS R3 final review (759 comments in total)
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KariP: Really odd discussion . Do photographers (us amateurs) really think that There is a real competition between Z9. A1 and R3 ? All serious pros or amateurs have already invested in a pile of expensive lenses. Who can afford swapping brands every other year? And There are not so many beginners buying the first camera and comparing these great 3 cameras. I have R6 and some lenses - i could use R3…
I can not use 45mp for anything…

There are also young professionals who buy their first professional level camera or some professionals can sell their large format film or digital gear and start using a FF camera. I really doubt a person who has bought Canon gear since 2001 would now buy a Sony because it has something in a camera body perhaps slightly better. And then ... are there lenses that are good enough ? and so on. And in 2025 Canon will create something groundbreaking and so on
Canon is more like a lens/optics maker, that makes also great cameras ;- ) - or so they say

Link | Posted on Nov 22, 2021 at 13:31 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Canon EOS R3 final review (759 comments in total)

Really odd discussion . Do photographers (us amateurs) really think that There is a real competition between Z9. A1 and R3 ? All serious pros or amateurs have already invested in a pile of expensive lenses. Who can afford swapping brands every other year? And There are not so many beginners buying the first camera and comparing these great 3 cameras. I have R6 and some lenses - i could use R3…
I can not use 45mp for anything…

Link | Posted on Nov 22, 2021 at 07:59 UTC as 31st comment | 8 replies
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)
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mreynolds767: Well written article supported by beautiful imagery taken by a very talented artist.
I disagree with the conclusions/opinions made on art vs. compositional originality. I think the artist is sharing his sense of greater satisfaction of scoring an original scene but wording it in a way that condescends those that walk the same area after him.
You can place more value or take more satisfaction on the more original composition if you want assuming you really know who took the first photo of said location.
You should consider it flattering if someone wants to take a similar photo you did ; not so offended.
Your original images I am sure allow you to sell photo tours of those locations which is wonderful and well deserved for you so why not just view it in that manner?

Keep creating your beautiful photos though, even if we disagree.

Making copies of great paintings has historically been the starting point and training of all new masters. After mastering techniques, drawing, manufacturing paints and etc and their craft they could start doing their own masterpieces .
Perhaps some people learn new things that way (trying to copy) or photographers follow the same compositional rules not knowing how the others do it in the same place.
I hope somebody wants to copy my photographs ...

Link | Posted on Nov 19, 2021 at 16:06 UTC
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)
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need to think of a unique name: Art is what it is to different people. My intent is not to be original and perhaps it isn't really possible as finding "new" locations is becoming increasingly difficult. Even if you don't look at other's work prior to visiting a location, you may still choose a very familiar composition and inadvertently copied it. If anything, we stand on the shoulders of giants by learning exposure triangle settings for different effects.
My intent is to have an authentic experience where the shot becomes a tangible memory at that point in time. I may shoot the same location many times and yet each will be different to me.
That said, I am not trying to sell images to make a living but rather enjoy the fruits of my labour by spending money on gear and travelling. I hope that viewers enjoy my work but after I leave this earth, only the photos with people in them will be interesting to the rest of my family.

Of course i can not tell what ART is, but it is possible to PUT something or somebody in front of the camera to create something that can be art - IF you know what you are doing. There is usually a lot going on in an artists head - before pushing the button - or going out with a camera.
I'm not thinking that it is art if i take photographs of the changes in my neighbourhood. Could be if the series of photographs tells a good touching story in a very good way.
And of course EVERY image needs some post processing after taking the photo. Even if you shoot JPEGs. Some images will need more ...
Great masters spent days or years to create some of their BW masterpieces - like A.Adams when he created the image with a moon in the black sky (Hernandez, New Mexico 1941). That was really some very complicated and well planned "post processing" in the darkroom after the film was developed...
But there must be an artist too - not just software and a PC

Link | Posted on Nov 19, 2021 at 15:58 UTC
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)
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need to think of a unique name: Art is what it is to different people. My intent is not to be original and perhaps it isn't really possible as finding "new" locations is becoming increasingly difficult. Even if you don't look at other's work prior to visiting a location, you may still choose a very familiar composition and inadvertently copied it. If anything, we stand on the shoulders of giants by learning exposure triangle settings for different effects.
My intent is to have an authentic experience where the shot becomes a tangible memory at that point in time. I may shoot the same location many times and yet each will be different to me.
That said, I am not trying to sell images to make a living but rather enjoy the fruits of my labour by spending money on gear and travelling. I hope that viewers enjoy my work but after I leave this earth, only the photos with people in them will be interesting to the rest of my family.

I have had many rather similar thought and i am happy to see, that my thinking is not TOO original 😇
And - true - our images will have some meaning if There are people in them. I am also trying to record the changes that happen in my surroundings. That can be interesting to some historian

Link | Posted on Nov 19, 2021 at 07:02 UTC
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)
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KariP: I just remembered one way to make landscape photographs that have originality and they are also art.
I know a Finnish artist who uses photography and makes also some videos etc stuff. She uses herself quit often as a model/person in different landscapes - not actually posing , but being there in the image. www.elinabrotherus.com
I especially like her "Seabound" and "Sebaldiana.Memento Mori" series. Have a look if you want to see art and originality. Landscapes are often also boring - these are not IMO

Interesting - people do know Sebald also in US… We visited Elina Brotherus studio when we bought some works from her. It was an interesting visit and discussion. Photographers can be artists and very civilized - not nagging if somebody has visited the same beach . She went to Korsika after reading Sebald…

Link | Posted on Nov 19, 2021 at 06:51 UTC
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)

I just remembered one way to make landscape photographs that have originality and they are also art.
I know a Finnish artist who uses photography and makes also some videos etc stuff. She uses herself quit often as a model/person in different landscapes - not actually posing , but being there in the image. www.elinabrotherus.com
I especially like her "Seabound" and "Sebaldiana.Memento Mori" series. Have a look if you want to see art and originality. Landscapes are often also boring - these are not IMO

Link | Posted on Nov 16, 2021 at 21:52 UTC as 36th comment | 2 replies
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)
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newnorm: I mean, how do we know who got that composition first? A database? Instagram posting dates? :)

Well, i think i can some places in Venice too if i need to. But i really do not mind if i take photos from some place someone else has visited with a camera. I hope i can take nice photos for myself - that is what i try to do. Very often photographers use the same compositions others might do because there are certain rules of composition that we know or just follow unknowingly - and there is also a long tradition of painting landscapes.

Link | Posted on Nov 16, 2021 at 21:23 UTC
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)
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newnorm: I mean, how do we know who got that composition first? A database? Instagram posting dates? :)

Exactly - try to visit Venice with a camera…. where is the place / lanscape no one else has photographed.

Link | Posted on Nov 15, 2021 at 20:55 UTC
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)
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KariP: I do disagree - not totally of course.
You say , that composition is the thing that makes some images looking original and creative, perhaps art . I think composition/ well known view /place is more like a starting point. Something that makes it possible to create a good photograph or even art.
A good example of this is a famous iconic photograph "Hernandez, New Mexico, 1941" by Ansel Adams. The original image was totally different and nothing spectacular - A.Adams created the famous final image a couple of years later. Many think it is art and - creative and original anyway.

I can not travel as much as you as a professional can do and i can not seek unknown faraway areas... I very often walk by a certain small sandy bay surrounded by some rocks (in Hanko Finland). Not a great view. BUT! i have taken a series of images standing on same small stone. Exactly the same composition. Sort of a project. Every landscape i shoot is almost totally different. And then there is PP...

Yes, i think the final image can be art - not the pushing of the shutter button in some special place.
Of course it is quite funny if people really go to some well known place to ”Copy” some iconic photo or image. I guess i could take a photo of mt. Fuji IF i visit Japan. And that will a copy of many famous images… or not.

Link | Posted on Nov 15, 2021 at 20:51 UTC
On article Erez Marom: On Originality in Landscape Photography (304 comments in total)

I do disagree - not totally of course.
You say , that composition is the thing that makes some images looking original and creative, perhaps art . I think composition/ well known view /place is more like a starting point. Something that makes it possible to create a good photograph or even art.
A good example of this is a famous iconic photograph "Hernandez, New Mexico, 1941" by Ansel Adams. The original image was totally different and nothing spectacular - A.Adams created the famous final image a couple of years later. Many think it is art and - creative and original anyway.

I can not travel as much as you as a professional can do and i can not seek unknown faraway areas... I very often walk by a certain small sandy bay surrounded by some rocks (in Hanko Finland). Not a great view. BUT! i have taken a series of images standing on same small stone. Exactly the same composition. Sort of a project. Every landscape i shoot is almost totally different. And then there is PP...

Link | Posted on Nov 15, 2021 at 15:11 UTC as 61st comment | 4 replies
On article Choosing a camera Part 3: the trade-offs of sensor size (432 comments in total)

Weight of my camera bag - and price...
I have used Canon FF cameras (5DMkIV , R6 ) and Fujifilm APS-C (X-H1 and X-E3). Both have advantages. Traveling with X-E3 and 2 lenses was easy and nice - IQ usually very good.
Canon FF R6 is at the moment a camera I like to carry around - the extra weight does come from Canon lenses.... H1 and R6 camera bodies are in the same weight class.
Why do I like R6 ? It has "only" 20mp sensor - about the same as H1. When I look at the images I see a difference. But I'm not really sure if it is just the sensor size - the combination of the FF sensor and a very good lens (like RF 70-200f4 ) and the better AF system makes my images look clearly better. In some landscapes comparisons between H1 and 5D are easy - very difficult to see any differences even if I pixel peep (especially with prime lenses).

Link | Posted on Nov 14, 2021 at 18:56 UTC as 26th comment

Modern cameras and lenses are so good and perfect, that obviously the image quality is too good ... and terrible soft images make us feel better . And you can forget that your own skills are not that great (and people do not see it when they look at the terrible lens quality). Of course it is also fun - except the using film or doing darkroom work...

Link | Posted on Oct 2, 2021 at 07:28 UTC as 18th comment
On article Canon EOS R3 Initial Review (1479 comments in total)
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KariP: Not for me or my amateur way to take photographs - BUT this R3 is planned and made for people who need speed and faster speed. Everything looks very balanced for those who need a FAST camera like this : sports (fast moving), nature / wild life, war zone reportages - whatever that needs fast reflexes also behind the viewfinder. Landscape and portrait photographers do not need things that this camera offers. IMO close to perfection for many (not me). And the price is surprisingly low compared to surprisingly expensive R5. Or 1DXMkIII! I will keep my R6 ...

I believe the faster card is more for 4K or 6K RAW video and the other for stills. Of course photographer can decide the use. Buyer of a 6000€ camera can afford also expensive cards - very many want two slots anyway. Nowadays the card is not always so important - the photos are sent directly to a photo editor without transporting any cards…

Link | Posted on Sep 14, 2021 at 17:39 UTC
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