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- Canon EOS R533.0%
- Canon RF 70-200 F4L IS USM8.2%
- Fujifilm X-T423.4%
- Nikon Nikkor Z 50mm F1.2 S12.5%
- Sony FE 20mm F1.8G10.3%
- Sony FE 12-24mm F2.8 GM12.5%
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Hmmm looking at this and 7-14mm. I'll probably sell the 12-40mm f2.8...
phouphou: If this was a 14-30f2-2.8 lens for MFT system people would rave about the IQ at the pricepoint ($500)
This lens just shows how overpriced MFT lenses really are.
What are you smoking? You're taking about f2 vs f4. You would have compare it against an MFT f4 lens...
What clap trap. How's that going to work in low-light!!!
djimjm: Just a comparison:
Sigma 100-400mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS 'Contemporary' (for Full Frame)
20 elements/16 groups
4 stops IS
min. focus 1.12m
Weight 1.1 kg
Length 197 mm
Diam. 86 mm
Public price 950 $
Product date Jul 20
Olympus 100-400mm F5.0-6.3 IS
21 elements/15 groups
3 stops IS
min. focus 1.3m
Weight 1.1 kg
Length 205 mm
Diam. 86 mm
Public price 1500 $
Product date Sep 20
These lens seem quite similar (except for the size of sensors they aim).
But the cost of the Oly is 1.5x
What can explain such a difference ?!
If you sell less then you have to charge more...
May be time to upgrade my M10 mk 1. Just have to see how good their CAF face/eye detect is. It has always worked well in SAF. Sony CAF EyeAF moved the game on, E-M1 mk 3 looked good. I would have been happier if they would have improved the 16MP with better noise and low ISO performance. Don't really print much bigger than 5x7 or 4K.
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The E-M1 III's 20MP Four Thirds chip is one we know from previous M43 cameras: it produces some of the best JPEG and Raw files of any camera in its sensor-class, but larger sensor cameras, at a similar price point, offer better dynamic range and resoluti
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So this camera is too high priced to compete with APS-C (Fujifilm/ Sony) and Full frame (Nikon Z5/ Z6).
No because those cameras are bigger. You buy this camera if you need the smaller size...My Porsche use a lot of fuel but it has other qualities...
Are they MAD!!! £500 is the price for an entry-level camera body-only. £600 for body + kit lens. No wonder they are going bust. Bye-bye Nikon. This is no 35mm MILC equivalent EOS-300D Digital Rebel...
Hubertus Bigend: The problem Olympus will be facing trying to sell that new 150-400 x1.25 to professionals is that the prospect for substantially higher-res sensors is dim now, while APS-C and FF have increased their megapixels substantially in the last few years, getting closer and closer in telephoto reach and thereby reducing the disadvantage in size and weight of the lenses for telephoto shooters, too. I know that not everyone needs more, and neither do I, but how does Olympus want to compete in the high-end segment with a four years old 20 MP sensor, while high-end APS-C has an excellent 32 MP sensor and high-end FF is offering resolutions between 40 and 60 MP?
35mm lens cannot resolve 50MP. I have friends I landcape with who has an A7R iii and the G Master Zooms. The Fuji GFX-50r comprehensively beats it because of it's zoom lens quality. I will get a GFX-50r to complement my m4/3...
Hubertus Bigend: The problem Olympus will be facing trying to sell that new 150-400 x1.25 to professionals is that the prospect for substantially higher-res sensors is dim now, while APS-C and FF have increased their megapixels substantially in the last few years, getting closer and closer in telephoto reach and thereby reducing the disadvantage in size and weight of the lenses for telephoto shooters, too. I know that not everyone needs more, and neither do I, but how does Olympus want to compete in the high-end segment with a four years old 20 MP sensor, while high-end APS-C has an excellent 32 MP sensor and high-end FF is offering resolutions between 40 and 60 MP?
@forest dream I totally disagree. When I do landscapes Oly kills it. You have to carry a back-pack up and down mountains in tough terrain. E-M1 Zuiko 12-100mm F4 in 35mm terms 24-200mm F4 in exposure/F8 in DOF. It's a killer combo 1 camera, 1 lens, 3 batteries, filters, tripod, shutter release and L bracket. IQ depends on pin-cushion, barrel distortion, vignetting, edge to edge sharpness, CA, flare, sharpness, microcontrast and colour rendition of lens, sensor-noise and sensor dynamic range.
I print to digital/web as most people do so max I need is 4K aka 8MP. 16MP allows me to crop to square and 3:2 aspect ratio. I'll beat any iPhone with my Oly E-M1 mk1 with the zoom on. I wouldn't even have to use my prime lens, which are even sharper with better micro-contrast and colour rendition. I won't even use my ND or grad ND filters or circular polariser. I can bracket 3 exposure from -3 to +3 EV and blend. E-M10 Mk 1 is a second body.
Hubertus Bigend: The problem Olympus will be facing trying to sell that new 150-400 x1.25 to professionals is that the prospect for substantially higher-res sensors is dim now, while APS-C and FF have increased their megapixels substantially in the last few years, getting closer and closer in telephoto reach and thereby reducing the disadvantage in size and weight of the lenses for telephoto shooters, too. I know that not everyone needs more, and neither do I, but how does Olympus want to compete in the high-end segment with a four years old 20 MP sensor, while high-end APS-C has an excellent 32 MP sensor and high-end FF is offering resolutions between 40 and 60 MP?
I have seen the A7r3 vs Fuji GFX-50r; Fuji is much better
What are they smoking at Canon. No wonder their profits have been hit. £1000 max for an enthusiast camera.
PocketPixels: Cameras have been so good for so long that new, full-price models don't make the compelling case that they used to.
A 2015 smartphone often can't use the latest versions of apps and websites. Try surfing the Web with an iPhone 5s or a Google Nexus 5 and see just how many sites load only partly. See how many apps make you log in every 5 minutes because the old phone OS keeps disconnecting.
But that DSLR that took stunning wedding portraits in 2015? It's still fully compatible with 2020 weddings. And it's on eBay right now for $400, plus $9 for a fresh (3rd party) battery.
Too true I have bought mirror-less system all used. Neither am I that interested in picking up more bulky FF stuff. Probably M.Zuiko 7-14mm, Lumix Leica 15mm f1.7. I think AI is going to shake up this industry, resolution, DR, deep-learning interpolation; just like we use bayer interpolation now. Topaz DeNoise AI is tip of the iceberg. nVidia has put tensor cores in all their consumer GPUs, so this stuff will run fast. We're just getting started...
xeppelin: a digital b&W camera is nothing more than a gimmick. Nothing that cannot be done just as well with a decent hi-rez color camera and proper post processing. And at much lower cost.
well, at least i am not forced to buy or subsidize it.
It captures what's there, rather than making a guess unless you're using a Foveon sensor. A bayer sensors throws two thirds of the information out at each photosite because it doesn't capture it. You can't get back what you didn't capture. Some hoi ploi have the cheek to call bayer cameras 'professional'...Lolz what n00bs...
Medium Format, all the rest are just toys or paparazzi cameras. Lolz when some 135/35mm/FF spivs think that it is a serious landscape photography tool; truly deluded...
BrexitDefCom3: I have a 4/3rds camera I bought to get a light long image-stabilized zoom, and to explore this sort of square format, and as suggested this new oly and the long zoom is intended to do a more up to date job. From recent results with my 1020 Nokia, i can see the POSSIBILITY that one fine day a micro 4/3rds machine will equal in image quality at high isos what a full-frame camera does, please email me when that day occurs, thankyou.
Speedlite is your friend, Hot Shoe Diaries By Joe McNally take a look for inspiration and know-how...
Landscape camera = Medium Format
kristof93: Too little, too late and too expensive Olympus. Trying to sell a recycled camera with an eye-watering price tag in a market more competitive than ever is not going to cut it.
Meant the M.Zuiko 12-100mm F4. I'm planning on picking one up on Flea Bay to go with my M.Zuiko 12-40mm F2.8 PRO and 9-18mm. My hiking camera equipment will then be OM-D E-M10 + grip 12-100mm F4 PRO & 9-18mm that will cover from 18-200mm equivalent; chuck in my Cokin Nuances Extreme (tempered Schott glass) filters and my tripod, take along the Pany Leica 25mm F1.4 for panos, Scottish Highlands here we come. I'm also looking at the OM-D E-M1 mk 1 for the weather sealing. There is a M.Zuiko14-150mm but it's not pro grade optics. Personally I think mFT & PhaseOne nuff said...
muppix: As an existing E-M5 mk II user (and mk I before that) I’m considering upgrading to the mk III for one feature alone: USB charging. Because when you add the bulk of an external battery charger, mains lead, and international mains adapter you’ve nearly doubled the size of your travelling camera, which is a real consideration if you spend weeks on the road with just a carry-on bag. I don’t care that it’s micro USB and not USB-C - so’s my Kindle. I don’t care it’s only rated for 310 shots - I’ll appreciate the lightness afforded by the small battery more often than I’ll grumble about having to to charge it during the day using any ubiquitous USB charger or power bank. Speaking of lightness, I am slightly worried about where weight has been shaved off. Is this an all-plastic body now?
I have quite a lot of car parts in plastic reinforced carbon fibre...
joelakeland: The market is lot different than when the Mark II was introduced and if the most important metric is image quality the XT3 would own that for the same price, more or less. Longtime Olympus fan but this model doesn't quite have me at "Hello".
If IQ is the most impotant metric then I'll grab the PhaseOne...
kristof93: Too little, too late and too expensive Olympus. Trying to sell a recycled camera with an eye-watering price tag in a market more competitive than ever is not going to cut it.
Can't agree with you; OM-D lens are much smaller such as the M.Zuiko 12-150mm F4 PRO,
24-300mm equivalent. I don't see the market getting more competitive. All the other equipment is too big; it's Pany or Oly they cornered the market...