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Lives in United Kingdom West Sussex, United Kingdom
Works as a Artist
Joined on Jul 13, 2005
About me:

Using digital photigrahpy combined with digital scanning to create abstract images and prints.

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Protogonus1: Since all smartphone “cameras” are pictoriographically FAKE and ILLUSORY, none of them capable of delivering presentation-size PHOTOGRAPHS destined for customers or blow-ups for exhibition in a MUSEUM (the true goal), of what worth is this discussion? Photographic output limited to “gee whiz” images on a smartphone screen or pissant 2 x 3 prints for passing around the kitchen table is NOT PHOTOGRAPHY IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE.

Brilliant........"smart phones are not photography in the traditional sense"
That is the point..............who makes super large prints these days ? A small minority. Who makes prints of any size ?

Link | Posted on Apr 15, 2018 at 17:01 UTC
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Newton Leonardo: No matter how good such article like this was, people will keep buying phone for as best camera as they can get from the price they paid, no matter its an entry level or high end phones.
It's now in almost in everyone's gene.

And after a while, people with new-found hobby of mobilephone photography starts to realise they need real camera, and start reading review of dslr or mirrorless.

I actually think.it will go the other way......camera enthusiasts like myself......Last count I had 11 cameras and lots of lenses. ..I think will sell the gear and take up phones as a main grabber of images.

Link | Posted on Apr 15, 2018 at 16:54 UTC
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RUcrAZ: Look: Someone decided to create an assignment to write a "reverse article," that is to focus on the telephone instead of its camera. In a camera gear forum! OK, the article was duly written - and it's hardly a literary blockbuster, in my opinion. Besides, DPR has not tested the phones as phones, so why the article? That's the end of my comments regarding the article.
As for me, I wanted a "camera that's always with me" and as an added feature, have a phone attached. Starting from a Nokia N95-8G, which had a "giant" 5 Megapixel cam (tops for its time) now I'm trying to select among the top contenders - as cameras. All these phones (as phones) sound pretty much alike to me.

The Samsung S7 still takes great pics..but the Huawei P30 pro is brilliant.
It makes life so much simpler......................NO RAW...no photoshop....just great jpegs.....and such clever computer enhancement... cameras have a bit of catching up to do.

Link | Posted on Apr 15, 2018 at 16:52 UTC
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spacecadets: Might we be missing the obvious here?
If you want a camera, buy a camera.

If you want a camera, buy a camera.....the fact is that statement is no longer true.

Link | Posted on Apr 15, 2018 at 16:47 UTC
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Keith Meinhold: Smartphones are the jack of all trades - masters of nothing. They are not great cameras, not great computers, not great phones, not great navigation devices...where they excel is that they are nearly always on hand.

One case they are superior to actual cameras: sharing images. Since the days of film cameras - there have been rolls upon rolls of exposed yet undeveloped film sitting in closets or on photo albums in closets. Same for digital cameras - photos that either sit on memory cards or if lucky get loaded onto a computer and eventually to a social media account. The masses share photography (and video) like never before with the advent of Smartphones.

That said, I will likely always have a dedicated camera - because I am willing to suffer through the production process and task of printing or sharing because the final image is important to me.

Im not so sure.....I think some phones now are truly great at what they do...........
take navigation...............no need to pay for updates....google has it sorted......speed cameras...........alternative routes.......traffic......walking routes
and free. The latest cameras are amazing. ...for most things....telling the time ...alarm clocks........instant saving to the cloud..........Voice recognition and language translation....incredible...and so much more.

Link | Posted on Apr 15, 2018 at 16:44 UTC

The tipping ,point has arrived..............................top film directors are now making cinema released films on the iphone. The latest P20 pro phone is taking incredible night shots...........and the daytime shots are superb.
Is this kit as good as dedicated cameras.....perhaps not. Will it suit a great many people... yes. Will more camera enthusiasts move to phones as their main device...yes. The tipping point has arrived.
As for operating systems .......you take your pick and learn it . ....
At the end of the day the equipment is less important than the shot.

Link | Posted on Apr 15, 2018 at 16:39 UTC as 39th comment

Sooner or later the penny will drop the future of cameras is phones.

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2018 at 18:22 UTC as 70th comment

Forget traditional cameras..........its all going to happen on smart phones soon.

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2018 at 14:39 UTC as 35th comment
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jim seekers: A little off topic here, I am trying to find the Galary of the Photo's taken by the P20 which Dpreview done, think it was over 100 photos but I can not find it.

I have had my pro now for a week still getting to grips with it as a phone let alone a camera. The camera settings are relatively simple....with lots of options.
The pics so far are quite incredible.

Link | Posted on Apr 11, 2018 at 08:50 UTC
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Gmon750: The the heck really cares about optical stabilization specs on a smartphone, let alone some cheap Chinese junk like Huawei?

Oh dear...who bought and Apple ?

Link | Posted on Apr 11, 2018 at 08:48 UTC
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girlperson1: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/04/huawei_imaging_deep_dive/ another review basically says the camera is great BUT the AI is "At times this is like having an annoying toddler trapped in your phone – one who is just learning words for things. Dog! Beach! Food!"

Having has my P20 pro for a couple of days and wringing as much out of it as I can ,,,,,,,,I have to disagree...........not an annoying toddler living in your phone at all....but a very clever adult well experienced in post shot processing.
The standard auto Ai shot are nothing short of amazing....fantastic....the best balanced jpegs this side of a fuji XT20. Sure if you want to shoot RAW you could ...but why would anyone bother.
At 40mp auto shots are breathtaking.

Link | Posted on Apr 7, 2018 at 12:48 UTC
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Garug: These images hurt my eye like distortion on sound hurts my ears. There is something just wrong on them.

Ah.... now we have a definition of what is a real photo..................Something pure and untouched..................we almost had a definition of art as well.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 22:17 UTC
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Battersea: For all the talk about mirrorless vs. DSLR camera companies REALLY need to be innovating in computational photography and possible new lenses set ups. Some amazing things could be done in a compact camera using this tech.

But the hobby/enthusiasts would find themselves with so much time on their hands.if they didn't have RAW files to muck about with :)

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 22:14 UTC
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108: This phone rings the death-bell for further smartphone pretention to "advanced" photography . You use a smartphone to quickly snap a few selfies or pics of your loved one on a Paris bridge , or the state of the heater that you're going to send to your company for a repair proposal , a quick real estate review , 28 mm equiv no stress . Who on earth is interested in beginning to fiddle with settings , 3x zoom and whatnot ? Better then have a regular camera , like a pocketable 1 inch sony or canon .

I think you are wrong..............this is the turning point.Unless you are a pro shooting for reproduction.....sell your gear now why there are enough camera enthusiasts to get a good price......A while ago ken Rockwell did side by side comparisons of Fuji X100s and an apple I phone..even back then I was thinking........wow why bother with a camera. The apple was so good.
That was an I phone 6 from memory............and things have got a lot better since then. Trust your eyes.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 22:10 UTC
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MCosta: This triple-camera is a great disappointment. Why all the major smartphone brands have this photo over sharpening syndrome? I've been using a Motorola X Force from 2015 (with a 21Mp sensor) and the camera has much more quality in details and shadows than all the flagships from Samsung, Huawei, LG and even Sony and iPhone. Today I did some tests, side by side in all the modes and the P20 Pro doesn't come close to my Moto X Force. Sure, the P20 Pro has the zoom and all the bells and whistles one should cry for, but I still prefer the clear, natural and non destructive processing of the image from my 2015's Moto X.

I now own both............I like my Moto X Force but the new P20 pro is so superior in almost every way. Do you own both ?
I have been doing side by side comparisons today.....Lots more to do but the Moto is never going to perform as well as the P20 pro.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 22:02 UTC
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esmufotografija: The downside is that it is a big slab like the pixel 2 xl, deep pockets are needed, or a bag. 3rd party android apps still have a way to go.

It is also interesting to skhoot the new breed of camera phones in raw and see how they perform without all the computation
👍 to the smarphone

You seem to be missing the point............the clever onboard adjustment is what the new breed of smart phones are all about.
Who wants to faff around with RAW when these clever jpegs are so good?
Life is too short:)

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 21:55 UTC
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noisephotographer: The P20 Pro seems to be the new king of ghosting:
See
https://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/18/huawei-p20-pro-camera-paris/camera/gsmarena_019.jpg

https://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/18/huawei-p20-pro-camera-paris/camera/gsmarena_020.jpg

https://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/18/huawei-p20-pro-camera-paris/camera/gsmarena_021.jpg

I could demonstrate crap shots taken with any camera.........................More pertinent is showing the good ones....and just how good they are.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 21:52 UTC
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spitfire31: Here is a somewhat less breathless assessment of the P20/P20 Pro:

www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/04/huawei_imaging_deep_dive/

The register review is hilarious......clearly the writer is on another planet.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 21:48 UTC
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franzfifty: I love the fact that some manufacturers are going forward with huge steps in smartphone camera dept. This is really great and fantastic for us users/customers. Of course this is currently coming at 2 prices - the handsets are very expensive and in the case of the Huawei P20 Pro..the pictures are not really that great as many want us to believe - at least not when compared to Pixels etc. But nevertheless it's great to see how things are improving and getting better with time.

From the examples I have seen posted .... the Pixels are inferior.Good ...but not as good...same goes for the others.
The next Google phone will have more than 1 lens..........having told us that more than one is not needed.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 21:46 UTC
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pocoloco: Can’t really understand the positive camera reviews it gets on this site. I find the image quality very poor. The processing is so agressive, that yes, you won’t see noise, but all detail is gone. Images look like waterpaintings. Take the arm of the bartender in the second images, that looks so unnatural.

I am very dissapointed in these result.

Well one man's meat is another man's poison

I like the in phone processing a lot.and its saves me doing it.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2018 at 16:31 UTC
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