Marty4650

Marty4650

Lives in United States NC, United States
Works as a Retired Industrial Engineer
Joined on May 20, 2005

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On article CP+ 2017: Olympus interview: 'We chose to be bold' (350 comments in total)
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Marty4650: "We had many discussions, and we chose to be bold and aim for a hit a higher consumer value point."

translation:

"We talked it over, and we decided to charge a lot more for it. As long as the camera performed as expected, we knew that our customers would pay a much higher price for it. And we needed a much higher price due to our sales volumes shrinking. It turned out to be the right decision."

Not meaning to belabor the point, but cartels and price fixing indicate that you don't have a free market. They fit the definition of a monopoly or "rigged market." They represent the exact opposite.

A really free market would have neither one.

Camera makers probably WISH they could fully control their prices, but they cannot. No one really needs to buy a camera, so the price needs to reflect some value for the customer.

Remember how Sigma tried to get $9,000 for their SD1 flagship DSLR? It didn't take long before the price was forced down to $1,200.

Link | Posted on Apr 18, 2017 at 13:57 UTC
On article CP+ 2017: Olympus interview: 'We chose to be bold' (350 comments in total)
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Marty4650: "We had many discussions, and we chose to be bold and aim for a hit a higher consumer value point."

translation:

"We talked it over, and we decided to charge a lot more for it. As long as the camera performed as expected, we knew that our customers would pay a much higher price for it. And we needed a much higher price due to our sales volumes shrinking. It turned out to be the right decision."

Sure Roman. Which is why Olympus also sells a $600 EM10 II in addition to their $2,000 EM1 II. Every maker tries to offer something to every customer, and not just cater to the high end. Even Leica has a "budget model" TL that costs $5,000 less than their flagship SL MILC camera.

If you leave a free market alone, it always finds the real price something should cost. If no one buys an EM1 II for $2,000, then it soon starts selling for $1,799. If that price is still too high, then $1,599 is next.

But it is very hard to call ANYTHING over priced when they are backordered.

Link | Posted on Apr 18, 2017 at 13:03 UTC
On article Nikon D7500 vs Nikon D500: Which is better for you? (397 comments in total)

Obviously, the D500 is "better" and it should be because it costs quite a bit more.

But if you don't need the faster speed and better AF, then the D7500 looks like a much better deal. And the truth is, most of us don't need really them, even if some people do.

Nikon is simply giving their customers more options by offering four different APSC DSLRs, at four different price points, with four different feature sets. And all four are pretty good choices within their respective classes.

(D3xxx, D5xxx, D7xxx, and D5xx).

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2017 at 15:03 UTC as 88th comment | 3 replies

Times really change.

Around 4 years ago DPreview did a story about "freight hoppers" and no one talked about how unsafe this practice was. The only thing discussed was the photographs themselves.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3451351380/photographer-turns-camera-on-teenage-freighthoppers

Today, whenever someone does something stupid, people feel compelled to lecture each other about it for the sake of public safety.

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2017 at 13:51 UTC as 101st comment | 4 replies
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Marty4650: Before the hysteria sets in.... look at the facts:

300 prople a year die falling off a ladder
500 people a year die while walking on train tracks
1,000 people a year die falling down stairs
5,000 people a year drown in swimming pools or swimming at the beach
5,000 pedestrians a year are killed by motor vehicles
34,000 people die each year while driving or riding in motor vehicles

Sure looks like we should be outraged about people taking photos at the beach, at swimming pools, of highway traffic, of people crossing streets, or of people using ladders.

It is sad that we need to have group outrage over every dangerous thing that can happen in life. And lets make sure we don't photograph these things, because it might encourage more risk taking.

@ bikinchris.... I know you are a big fan of the nanny state. And I am not. We will never agree on this. Government cannot legislate common sense, and group outrage by a few photographers won't stop people from taking stupid risks.

Chris.... 113 people died last year in bicycling accidents. Another 3,400 were seriously injured. So I plan to stop taking photos of people riding bicycles.

Just doing my part....

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2017 at 03:40 UTC

Before the hysteria sets in.... look at the facts:

300 prople a year die falling off a ladder
500 people a year die while walking on train tracks
1,000 people a year die falling down stairs
5,000 people a year drown in swimming pools or swimming at the beach
5,000 pedestrians a year are killed by motor vehicles
34,000 people die each year while driving or riding in motor vehicles

Sure looks like we should be outraged about people taking photos at the beach, at swimming pools, of highway traffic, of people crossing streets, or of people using ladders.

It is sad that we need to have group outrage over every dangerous thing that can happen in life. And lets make sure we don't photograph these things, because it might encourage more risk taking.

Link | Posted on Apr 13, 2017 at 01:55 UTC as 180th comment | 11 replies
On article CP+ 2017: Olympus interview: 'We chose to be bold' (350 comments in total)
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Marty4650: "We had many discussions, and we chose to be bold and aim for a hit a higher consumer value point."

translation:

"We talked it over, and we decided to charge a lot more for it. As long as the camera performed as expected, we knew that our customers would pay a much higher price for it. And we needed a much higher price due to our sales volumes shrinking. It turned out to be the right decision."

Banhmi..... you would be right if Olympus was alone in raising prices. But they aren't. Sony charges more for their a6500 than some very similar MILC cameras from Fuji, Panasonic and Olympus. And their "good lenses" are all designed for FE, so they also cost a ton.

Right now, there are no new customers, so everyone is selling to existing customers. Those with a "backback full of glass." This simply isn't a growth industry anymore, and the major players are responding accordingly.

Each lens mount is pretty much a sealed eco system. It really doesn't matter how nice that new Fuji or Nikon is, when you already own $6,000 worth of lenses that won't work with it.

And every additional Olympus PRO or PanaLeica lens draws you in deeper!

Link | Posted on Apr 12, 2017 at 18:23 UTC
On article CP+ 2017: Olympus interview: 'We chose to be bold' (350 comments in total)
In reply to:

Marty4650: "We had many discussions, and we chose to be bold and aim for a hit a higher consumer value point."

translation:

"We talked it over, and we decided to charge a lot more for it. As long as the camera performed as expected, we knew that our customers would pay a much higher price for it. And we needed a much higher price due to our sales volumes shrinking. It turned out to be the right decision."

Can you really blame any camera maker for charging as much as you are willing to pay for a camera?

These are all businesses, trying hard to make a profit. They aren't charities or public service groups.

Link | Posted on Apr 12, 2017 at 11:23 UTC
On article CP+ 2017: Olympus interview: 'We chose to be bold' (350 comments in total)

"We had many discussions, and we chose to be bold and aim for a hit a higher consumer value point."

translation:

"We talked it over, and we decided to charge a lot more for it. As long as the camera performed as expected, we knew that our customers would pay a much higher price for it. And we needed a much higher price due to our sales volumes shrinking. It turned out to be the right decision."

Link | Posted on Apr 12, 2017 at 10:39 UTC as 66th comment | 21 replies
On article Nikon D7500: What you need to know (540 comments in total)

This camera actually makes sense for Nikon.

By simultaneously upgrading (touch screen, tilt screen, faster processor, 4K video) and then downgrading (single card slot) Nikon has updated and better positioned their D7xxx model under their D500 and over their D5600.

Nikon has essentially created a refresh with very little R&D expense involved. A three day project for their engineering department.

It won't take long before this is selling for under $1,000 body only.

Link | Posted on Apr 12, 2017 at 10:29 UTC as 96th comment | 11 replies
On article Fujifilm GFX 50S vs Pentax 645Z vs Hasselblad X1D (347 comments in total)
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NemanRa: 645Z full review, please!

That is one new feature I really love. I just have more interest in camera nostalgia than I do for new cell phones. But I am pretty sure others would disagree.

Link | Posted on Apr 11, 2017 at 01:42 UTC
On article Fujifilm GFX 50S vs Pentax 645Z vs Hasselblad X1D (347 comments in total)
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NemanRa: 645Z full review, please!

In other words... if the Pentax 645Z Mark II was created sometime this year, it would probably get a 20 page review and five or six preview, samples, first look, etc articles about it.

Link | Posted on Apr 10, 2017 at 18:14 UTC
On article Fujifilm GFX 50S vs Pentax 645Z vs Hasselblad X1D (347 comments in total)
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NemanRa: 645Z full review, please!

The reason MF is getting any ink at all is because the entire camera market is moving up in a quest for profitability and survival. Plus there are ZERO compact cameras to write articles about. That's right ZERO.

It seems every camera released in 2017 is an ILC, a high end compact, or some other kind of specialty camera. Ten years ago we were flooded with compacts, and DPR was pretty busy grinding out reviews. Today, they need to write about smart phones, drones, storage devices, and anything else they can think of just to create content.

1st Quarter new camera announcements on DPR:

2010 - 104
2011 - 99
2012 - 99
2013 - 83
2014 - 66
2015 - 46
2016 - 37
2017 - 12

Notice a trend?

When you have 104 new cameras released in the first three months of the year, you can be pretty selective about which ones you want to report about. When you only have 12, then you have to talk about all of them, and then find other things to talk about too.

Link | Posted on Apr 10, 2017 at 18:12 UTC
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Wally Brooks: Hmmm. I'm, an Ex View Camera shooter who owns Sigma Merrill’s and this makes me re think my workflow... It’s still show up at dawn, shoot at ISO 100, use a big heavy tripod, use a cable release, and pray for no wind...... now without the clunky workflow. Well Done Sigma. Many bloggers have postulated about DNG in Camera and only Sigma has the courage to do this for cameras most of us can afford.

I believe many Leicas use DNG as their native raw format too.

Link | Posted on Apr 9, 2017 at 15:34 UTC

This is really lame.

Throwing commemorative logos on products to celebrate an anniversary. Had they instead released a limited "special edition" DL 18-50, and priced it at $3,000, they probably would have sold out an entire run of 10,000 copies, and created an instant collectors edition.

Special logos don't mean very much. Rare special editions of cameras unavailable any other way could mean a lot.

Link | Posted on Apr 5, 2017 at 21:17 UTC as 2nd comment

This just in..... all the Nikon 100th Anniversary special editions will be delayed due to the Kumamoto earthquake that struck Japan in 2016.

The special editions are now expected to be available by June 2019, or maybe never.

Link | Posted on Apr 3, 2017 at 11:16 UTC as 55th comment | 1 reply
On article We try out the new HassleVlad (100 comments in total)
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Swerky: Next DPReview member should be named Shanon.

Or Franklympus

Link | Posted on Apr 1, 2017 at 13:10 UTC

Personally, I think these new fridges are nice, but I will hold out until they offer a Micro Fridge with a 4/3 sensor. That could be the ideal travel fridge, and would probably be a big hit among Asian women.

Especially if they came in red, white or pink.

Link | Posted on Apr 1, 2017 at 11:35 UTC as 70th comment
On article Pentax KP Review (659 comments in total)
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Albert Valentino: Over all, Pentax cameras seem to the best value, including great ergomonics, IQ.

I agree with your overall assessment.

The problem might be that the ILC market isn't driven by value, like it was ten years ago. Today it seems the entire value market has shifted to smart phones. Even the entry level DSLRs are disappearing from some big box stores.

The KP on it's own is an outstanding camera, and I think Pentax would sell the same number of them if they sold for $1,500 rather than $1,000. Meaning, I don't think many Pentax buyers are buying Pentax cameras because they represent "better value" today. They buy them because they like their performance and features.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 15:12 UTC
On article Pentax KP Review (659 comments in total)
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Marty4650: Pentax keeps proving, over and over again, that having outstanding cameras that are jam packed with features, and that deliver incredible image quality and value just isn't enough to make a serious dent in the shrinking DSLR market that is dominated by two 800 pound gorillas.

It just seems like an exercise in futility. What a pity.

@ NotSteve.... The "pity" is that Pentax is struggling. Of course, more choices for us are good. And Pentax makes excellent products that can't seem to get much market share. The K5 is a perfect example of an outstanding camera that didn't do as well as it should have in the market.

@ tailings... Olympus is in a similar situation as Pentax, except they aren't competing in the same market niche. In their own niche, Olympus is a fairly large gorilla.

Whether Olympus, Panasonic are "inferior format systems" is based entirely on your own particular needs.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 15:05 UTC
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