Reilly Diefenbach

Reilly Diefenbach

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Joined on Jul 18, 2010

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On article Hello Lightroom CC: Embracing the future (467 comments in total)
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ThomasH_always: This is a horrible article, full of buzzwords and pro-corporate arguments. This kind of arguments is called sophistic. By the subscription Adobe
1) literally triples the cost of use for LR
2) hooks to stream of money, or else you will lose your editing work
3) exposes to risks of remote access and adds an additional point of failure
4) forces people into a way of live which is a "live on pump" and not live on what you can afford.

The author seems to "come from far afar" and seem to be either very naive, or disingenuous. As I said: A sophist. Subscriptions are understandable for goods which we consume, like a flow of water, flow of electricity, bandwidth on internet. I will never lease a car, I will drive the one I can afford. I will never lease a software.

As of now we are surely traumatized, because we are losing our editing work and craftsmanship.

Leasing a car gets you a new one every two years for $150-400 a month. What's so terrible about that?

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2017 at 16:47 UTC
On article Hello Lightroom CC: Embracing the future (467 comments in total)
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esorensen: You can be sure there are a few neckbeards working their way into Adobe's cloud for revenge after this business structure shift.

Neckbeards, LOL!

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2017 at 16:44 UTC
On article Hello Lightroom CC: Embracing the future (467 comments in total)

My Frontier DSL is a whopping .4 MBPS upload speed, so I'll be a long while getting to cloud storage :^)

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2017 at 16:42 UTC as 50th comment | 2 replies
On article RIP Lightroom 6: Death by subscription model (1336 comments in total)

"Death" by subscription? Someone needs to switch to Decaf :^)

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2017 at 16:36 UTC as 152nd comment
On article RIP Lightroom 6: Death by subscription model (1336 comments in total)
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vyusseem: Here we go again.
Picasa - discontinued because it didn't fit Google's business strategy.
Aperture - discontinued because it didn't fit Apples's business strategy.
Lightroom Standalone - discontinued because it didn't fit Adobe's business strategy.

The pattern is clear. Replacing Lightroom with other commercial tool (C1, ON1, ACDSee...) WILL bring us to the same point as we are in now - looking for a new tool to replace the discontinued one.

I don't have a solution, but i have some thoughts about my next tool/workflow:
- reduce dependency on any tool. Just use IPTC for indexing, OS's file browser for search and organisation. Whatever RAW processor of the day to process. There are a lot of disadvantages (semi-manual organization, scripts, redundant storage of RAW and finished pictures, probably many more)
- use ONLY open-source community supported tools for any integration points (like DAM, organization, etc)

looking for your thoughts, friends

ACDSee would be cheaper, Capture One twice the money.

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2017 at 16:33 UTC
On article RIP Lightroom 6: Death by subscription model (1336 comments in total)
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GOVA: meh, Like Win7 is my last windows, then LR6 is my last LR.

There are always alternatives, looking strongly towards going back to SilkyPix.

If not, there are great free Lunux based alternatives. RIP LR.

Windows 7? Nah!

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2017 at 16:31 UTC
On article RIP Lightroom 6: Death by subscription model (1336 comments in total)
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Bernard Pirenne: Bye bye Lightroom photoshop. I now use On 1 photo RAW and most happy with the change. I prefer using On 1 photo raw, more inutitive easier to combine effets and I do not think I will ever return to Adobe.
Regards
Bernard

What about the horrible raw conversion of On1 compared to ACR?

Link | Posted on Oct 19, 2017 at 16:27 UTC
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David Franklin: Well, it looks like Adobe is in serious training to finally "jump the shark" in imaging software. As a great (for) Adobe customer since 1996, who has bought literally tens of thousands of dollars of Adobe products over the years, I am greatly concerned by this mystical BS and corporate suck-upping about the "one true Lightroom" to come. If that means that I will soon only have a "cloud" version of Lightroom to choose, as Adobe will concentrate on the cloud version to the detriment of the so-called Classic version, in order to increase profits from storage and decrease double development costs, I will totally quit Adobe. Period. They might not care, but I do.
I will not have years of my work held hostage to their storage regime, and all the security and up/download speed and capacity issues that would go along with it. I am near fed up with the truly awful sluggishness of the program already; this is probably going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Wake up Adobe!

Again and again, they're charging in human waves :^)

"You can also specify that copies of the originals for individual photos or folders (or even the entire library) remain on the local drive."

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:59 UTC
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Reilly Diefenbach: 10 bucks a month (still) for the best only faster is fine with me. The rest of you cheapskates are going to have to use something else or just run your old standalones into the ground. Boo hoo!

Larry, Adobe is going in a different direction. Most people find it an excellent package at only $10 per month, Photoshop included. Six or seven hundred dollars was WAY more money than I ever wanted to part with for software, so I didn't. Until the subscription. After learning a few things, I don't know how I could ever do without it.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:57 UTC
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sdgreen: What a miserable bunch of comments. It makes more sense for everybody to provide continual updates to a product than keep releasing new versions. I would bet it's easier to plan & implement. The photographers CC plan is excellent value for money especially compared to what cinematographers have to pay for software (that from a Ben Long tutorial).

"You can also specify that copies of the originals for individual photos or folders (or even the entire library) remain on the local drive. "
Sheesh!

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:43 UTC
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SolidMetal: Well, what is everybody raging about exactly? The subscription is for the same price or a bit cheaper than before and finally Lightroom is new from scratch and maybe a lot faster.
I mean, I understand that subscription is maybe not the best option but at least it means your product is always up to date, and even I - with sh*tty Eastern EU salary - think it's pretty affordable.

Too sensible. You just don't fit in here :^)

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:41 UTC
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Bing Chow: The writing is on the wall for me. I guess I have to commit the time to learn Capture One Pro.

At twenty dollars a month with no Photoshop. Why?

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:39 UTC
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RJSPhotography: I'm finished with adobe.

Buh bye.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:37 UTC
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Dr_Jon: If Capture One responds to this with a discount plan to attract potential defectors they might have a sale...

That will never happen and you still won't have Photoshop.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:36 UTC
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TheRealYeats: Nope.

Yep!

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:35 UTC
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Reilly Diefenbach: 10 bucks a month (still) for the best only faster is fine with me. The rest of you cheapskates are going to have to use something else or just run your old standalones into the ground. Boo hoo!

I have zero interest in anyone's cloud storage.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:35 UTC
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Arca45Swiss: I'll never use Lightroom in any form

1) Capture One is better

2) I hate having a cataloging system forced on me

3) C1 lets me work in sessions not LR's forced organization

Capture One is close but no cigar for twice the money and no Photoshop.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:33 UTC
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falconeyes: > It’s not hard to look ahead and contemplate how the two Lightroom paths move into the future.
So true: LR Classic will be obsoleted by Capture One, and LR CC will be obsoleted by iPhoto. Well played, Adobe ...

Capture One is not an option for any of the whiners at $300 plus biannual updates or $20 a month. And you still don't get Photoshop.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:33 UTC
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Matt Random: A few quick thoughts...

- No standalone LR 7 doesn't surprise me at all. The writing has been on the wall for a long time.

- In my experience, the Classic branding usually indicates something that a company considers to be outdated and is working to deprecate. This should be named something like Lightroom CC Pro if Adobe is planning to keep developing it for the users that need more. I expect LR CC Classic to be end of life within two years.

- Lightroom CC doesn't really stand out from the crowd of competitors. Seems like that is going to make people less likely to consider Adobe rather than get more people to come onboard.

Well, LR is a heck of a lot faster and easier to use than DXO or Capture One and comes with Photoshop, which is in a class by itself. On1 is not a serious option, especially the terrible raw conversion.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 14:10 UTC

10 bucks a month (still) for the best only faster is fine with me. The rest of you cheapskates are going to have to use something else or just run your old standalones into the ground. Boo hoo!

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2017 at 13:59 UTC as 284th comment | 13 replies
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