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| THREE BOWLER HATS by FINEART4YPvK from Men Wearing Hats | Oak Leaf Rain Drops by CharlieGMorr from My Best Non-bird Photo of the Fortnight 12 | Reflection Perfection by Nilesh Trivedi from Reflections on Water | délicatesse by cjf2 from Bird with its Prey |
MinAZ: With this lens, you can basically shoot an entire wedding. You have 35mm at f/2, which is only half stop slower than your usual 35mm prime, and then you go all the way out to 150mm f/2.8 which is good enough for the ceremony. So done deal, I am ordering 2 the minute I can.
Only caveat is that if this version is anything like the smaller DSLR version, it won’t be a very good action lens. I love my 35-150mm Tamron for my d780, but it is a below average lens for any kind of action. The optics are amazing, but speed is a liability. I have to do a lot of “focus aheading” and shot planning to get good action shots with it.
papajohnny: I like 35-150mm range, but the darn thing is huge and heavy. I wish they made f/2.8-4 instead.
The 35-150mm f/2.8-4 that's available for DSLRs is amazing. I have it for my Nikon d780 and it instantly became my favorite lens. That version is already pretty large, but the weight is very reasonable. I guess it only makes sense that an f/2-2.8 version would be huuuuuge.
mart1234: Their previous 35-150 for DSLR had lots of focus breathing. Lets hope this one is better.
I have that earlier DSLR 35-150mm for my Nikon d780. It's my favorite lens. It was the best $899 I've ever spent.
Photoman: I remember the days when old digital video cameras use to record 5MB per second!
I remember when I had one of those Fisher-Price Sony cameras that recorded short videos to 3.5" floppies. That was closer to 5K/sec.
SiriusB: Whoa. NASA may want to delay the JWST until then, to install this camera on it!
NASA doesn't use cutting edge components that haven't been proven to be able to withstand the harshest conditions possible. Case in point, the most recent rover is running off of a special variant of the PowerPC chip that was in the original iMac of 1998.
socialwave: Well, it was nice knowing you all. It's time to sell my other kidney so I can afford the storage space to save more photos of my cat.
Yup, I know Moore’s very well!
Moore transistors = Moore cat photo.
Still gonna have to sell my remaining kidney though.
Well, it was nice knowing you all. It's time to sell my other kidney so I can afford the storage space to save more photos of my cat.
Aroart: I here Nikon is going to bundle this camera with a canvas bag and hair ties for your hipster manbun..
I'm sure there's some of that going on ScottTomlinson. There always is. High end gear always doubles as a fashion accessory for some people or perhaps that's the primary purpose.
The irony for me here is that I got a Z fc so I wouldn't be seen as much. Being that we're still in a pandemic, I wanted something that wouldn't call out as much attention in public as a d780 with a large lens and a speed light.
That this could be mistaken by some people as either a film camera or a hipster camera was precisely the draw for me. I figure more people will leave me alone if they think I'm either an old school film throwback or a hipster who just wants to be seen with a nice looking camera.
ISeeBeauty: (I am an amateur). There seems to be too much talk about the camera body. I think the mount is more important as lenses are the pricier component in photography.
In theory, this camera fits well with my considerations:
1. the common Z mount allows 1.5x tele-conversion with FX lens on DX sensor body - instant ^ range. Minimises my lens hoarding. New bodies arrive all the time; lenses don’t.
2. Megadap ETZ11 adapter allows use of huge range of current Sony & other makers’ E-mount lenses on Nikon Z cameras with full autofocus. That means Sigma/Tamron and Zeiss glass universes as well. Wow. Lolly shop.
3. Reminds me of 1982 and my beloved FE2 where I began to love photography.
Not so good though:
No IBIS. So fewer usable images with longer non-stabilised lenses incl. my very old Nikon glass from the 80’s. Also, for street photography good to have IBIS.
Love the commentary, but why do you need IBIS for street photography?
Street and live event photography is the main reason why IBIS is no big deal to me. My subjects are moving. IBIS isn't going to help me there.
socialwave: I knew this was a special camera when the entire sales floor at my local camera shop gathered around me as I unboxed the first Z fc to be delivered to their store.
I haven't looked at a Pentax camera in years. Based on your comment I went to check some out. Wow, the K1 is a gorgeous camera, especially that silver edition K1 and the ergonomics looks amazing.
I grew up in the 80's with a bombproof Ricoh point and shoot permanently glued to my hand. I saved up money from a summer job and splurged on one of the pricier point and shoot cameras at the camera shop. I think that camera is probably still sitting somewhere at the bottom of a box at my dad's house. I must find it.
I knew this was a special camera when the entire sales floor at my local camera shop gathered around me as I unboxed the first Z fc to be delivered to their store.
brownie314: Not sure how a re-housed z50 gets a score this high. There are only two meaningful updates - usb charging and the articulating screen (both of which are improvements). But - everything else is a gimmick - AND - the grip is worse. AND - why not compare the zfc with the G9 - which is also in the same price range?
Brownie, echoing what BrentSchumer said, there is some utility in mining these forums for opinion, but it's more noise than signal. By the time you are one of the major camera manufacturers, there are far more accurate and efficient ways to collect marketing insights than to wade through pages and pages of dreck.
But information is useful, right? Well whose opinion would you be collecting here? DP Review will give you a strong idea what drives the saturated market of opinionated middle aged men who have free time and already own plenty of cameras. That's not a recipe for success.
Women buy cameras too. Zoomers and young millennials love throwback gear. Based on the strong reception of the Z fcs, Nikon's done their homework.
brownie314: Not sure how a re-housed z50 gets a score this high. There are only two meaningful updates - usb charging and the articulating screen (both of which are improvements). But - everything else is a gimmick - AND - the grip is worse. AND - why not compare the zfc with the G9 - which is also in the same price range?
Comments on DP Review forums are never going to be taken very seriously by any company that actually has the ability to do market research. This is the exact opposite of a controlled survey. The people providing feedback here are not a representative sample of the target market.
GarysInSoCal: OK, it's startin to grow on me. But there's still a few things about this cam that's killin it for me.
1. No Grip! Gotta have one. With any kind of larger lens on it (they all look HUGE on this punky body), it's probably gonna get dropped. A body this small can easily slip out of your hands with no grip.
2. Wishin it was 'full frame'. I shoot a lot in less than perfect light (1600-6400ISO), and I've got so used to the low noise capabilities of Nikon's full framer's (D750-D810). I won't be happy with the noise I see comin out of this cam at those ISOs. Cropped sensors just CANT hold a candle to full frame in this department.
3. I've got so used to shootin all day on 1 battery (1000-1500 images), that I'm sure I'm gonna HATE swapping out batteries half way thru the day. That's when I'm probably gonna miss somethin I didn't want to.
4. And COME ON Nikon, it shoulda had IBIS, like most all of it's competitors. Get with the program.
Gary, being creative enough to use a grip-less camera in novel ways and pointing a camera at yourself makes you a narcissist? Really?
Seriously, does that seem like an appropriate response to you?
Aroart: I here Nikon is going to bundle this camera with a canvas bag and hair ties for your hipster manbun..
Psst @jaberg, the people who are so insecure about the size of their lens that they have to put down people who shoot with cameras they consider inferior... are not "real" photographers.
brownie314: Has Nikon changed their jpg recipe? These images look a lot cooler (blue-er) than typical Nikon files. I used to not like how warm Nikon jpgs are - but - this is worse.
If you read the reviews they did mention that the processing seems to be biased toward a more bluish hue.
brownie314: Not sure how a re-housed z50 gets a score this high. There are only two meaningful updates - usb charging and the articulating screen (both of which are improvements). But - everything else is a gimmick - AND - the grip is worse. AND - why not compare the zfc with the G9 - which is also in the same price range?
Some people actually like the lack of a grip. I thought I'd hate it, but it's grown on me. I've paired my Z fc with a loose hand strap and because there's no grip bump, it's quite easy to take advantage of the fully articulating screen by holding the camera backwards.
I've adjusted my hand holds so that I can easily shoot one handed either forward or backwards (selfie mode). I don't know if they omitted the grip for this reason, but it sure works out nicely. The dials are also extremely useful when you're shooting in selfie mode because you can't easily access controls on the back panel then.
I got this to be my fun camera. I'm not going to be mounting any serious heat on the front. The Z fc has met my expectations and then some.
Niko Vita: 2000 comments for a camera which got just silver at DPR. Quite telling.
Yeah, it means someone must have done something right to inspire this much love, hate, and fanfare for a crop sensor camera.
Capture the Moment: The retro body design and analogue roll back doesn’t quite work for me on a modern digital mirrorless such as this. I did try the DF but it never quite had that feel and long lost experience of using film cameras. Don’t get me wrong I really wish Nikon well with this model and they have done an amazing job. I’m still using my Nikon FM2 with DSLR film scanning and love the results. The whole process of loading and shooting with film really makes you think about the creating an image from start to finish. Thats when I love using the knobs and dials, if I remember my close up glasses (ha ha) Reading this excellent review and the conclusions though it has made me seriously thing about getting the Z50 to go with my Z7. The images in this review really impresses. These are just my thoughts from someone still shooting film but fully embracing the wonders of the Z range and must congratulate Nikon on the way they have moved forward.
I’ve come to see the dials as more than just throwback aesthetics. I’ve been using this camera in selfie mode and I shoot everything full manual. The dials make it so much faster to adjust my settings when I’m holding it backwards.
When I shoot this as a normal forward facing camera, I use the modern shutter speed and aperture dials on the front and back. When shooting backwards, it’s the top dials that I use.
I don’t know if this was intentional or not, but it’s one of the reasons I’m lovin my Z fc.
Gerard Shutter: Whoever wants an apsc camera will be crazy to get this unless they shot Nikon full frame or are first hipster and after photographer.
This camera will will never be supported by a decent lens lineup.
It is nice to see and hopefully to handle, period.
I see we have entered the “size of your lens” indicates the skill of the photographer phase of this silliness.
I won’t be mounting my 150-600mm on this thing. I have a different camera for that.