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I didn't care reading all the 200+posts, I see very little to no improvement between the oversharpened single image vs even the 20 median stacked raw. However, the median stacked jpeg is presented as an even SMALLER file as the oversharpened single. I am afraid, that all improvements were lost in the jpeg compression.

Link | Posted on Sep 5, 2018 at 12:57 UTC as 4th comment
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Battersea: The dolly zoom would be a cool feature for point and shoot or compact cameras to have.

@kkx: dolly zoom requires moving BOTH the camera AND zoom at the same time. Otherwise, simply zoom or move the camera and the dolly effect can be added in post.

Link | Posted on Aug 29, 2018 at 00:16 UTC
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Scottelly: I'm a little surprised these drones don't do 4Kp60. Much older drones had the ability to shoot 4Kp30, as does every other digital camera and most good smartphones. Why no significant progress? I would have thought 4Kp120 would be coming soon. It seems about time drones get 4Kp60 by now. We see 4Kp60 in a Panasonic still camera, and the GoPro Hero6 has been doing 4Kp60 for months and months now. The fact that these brand new drones don't do it makes me wonder what's going on.

Frame rate is one thing, but do they also increase the bitrate?? hardly... The Phantom 4 pro uses the same 100Mbps for 4k30 and 4k60Hz. More, at 4k30Hz you can use the modern h.265 codec, saving more information while 4k60Hz is limited to h.264 in that bird.

To maintain decent quality, 4k60Hz should be at least 140Mbps, 4k120Hz somewhere around 250Mbps.

Link | Posted on Aug 27, 2018 at 22:44 UTC
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fairfaxian: Been waiting to pull the trigger, and this looks like the one. But as a drone noob, I'd like to hear from first time pilots that learned on the Mavic Pro. How is to fly these models if you have no prior experience (and don't play computer games)? I hear the programmed modes seem relatively foolproof, but how abut straight hands on flying?

Also, would appreciate feedback on the IQ of STILLS (raw) from 1" drone sensors. I've used 1" sensors in stills cams & my experience produced OK (not stellar) results in good light, but fine detail & low light, just ho hum.


You can find samples from the Phantom 4 advanced/pro all over the internet, I suspect even unmodified raw's as well. The 1" sensor is from sony, you can expect the same sensor performance as in the rx100 series.

Link | Posted on Aug 27, 2018 at 22:36 UTC
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Reilly Diefenbach: Holy Moly, I've got to have one of these, but which one?

I second that! I can imagine that the digital zoom on the 1" sensor is better or at least not worse than the 48mm eqv on 1/2.3".

Link | Posted on Aug 27, 2018 at 16:21 UTC
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Battersea: The dolly zoom would be a cool feature for point and shoot or compact cameras to have.

If your legs are not automated, it will be difficult to automate in a P&S...

Link | Posted on Aug 27, 2018 at 16:18 UTC

Looking forward to comparisons with the Phantom 4 Pro!

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2018 at 12:39 UTC as 18th comment | 2 replies

Allright, Mavic specs at Spark pricing. How does it fly? How reliable is it? If you loose one, you are already at a higher price point than any Mavics...

Link | Posted on Aug 16, 2018 at 10:23 UTC as 4th comment
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barrym1966: But is there yet an HD or 4k drone that actually has HD or 4k quality. I've been looking around and most of the HD and 4k drones image quality is like a 90s camera phone

IQ needs a certain size, both lens and sensor. If the P4P is not good for you, you need something bigger. Physics...

Link | Posted on Aug 16, 2018 at 10:21 UTC

The resolution is getting better e.g. compared to the gear 360, but it's still not there to export meaningful quality, it should have two more eyes and approximately double the resolution, around 10k. Hopefully gopro will establish a product line here and we'll get there with the nex generation. Right now 2 kodak pixpro's give you better quality.

Also quite surprised, that gopro is not the first with these specs in a "vr actioncam market": the Virb 360 has been around since autumn 2017...

Link | Posted on Aug 16, 2018 at 07:55 UTC as 13th comment | 3 replies
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net1994: Looks interesting. I have the Mavic Pro (Gen 1 obviously :-) ), and the biggest downside is the video/pic quality. It is pretty bad. I'd say I get better pics from my two year old Galaxy S7 smart phone. I knew going in the main feature was portability, not image image quality. Low to ground (relatively) the still pics are decent. Unusable almost from any higher. 4k video is pretty good. Unless you are flying over dark areas and then artifacts shows up bad. Perhaps I had way to high expectations coming from Nikon DSLR quality levels. And from the reviews, if I went for a Phantom drone, I'd probably be still disappointed. I don't use my mavic enough to justify the cost to switch. Maybe the Mavic Pro 3 or something.

DJI doesn't have much competition unfortunately, hence they keep a substantial gap between their quality products (x5, x7 interchangeable vs fixed-lens). The average Joe gets smartphone quality for about 1k$, the prosumer leaves 5-10k$ at the till for the IQ of an RX100... Alternatively, one builds his own drone, learns to fly it then put on a GH5 for 1/3rd of the cost but a lot more effort.

Link | Posted on Aug 13, 2018 at 08:50 UTC

3x Zoom AND the 1" sensor would be interesting in the same, folding drone. Besides, the real advantage of that 1" camera depends very much on the lens. If it gets the f2.8 lens of the Phantom 4 Pro, the advantage to the usual smartphone's f1.7 lens, 1/2.5" sensor match will be reduced to one EV.

Put in a sony rx 100 class camera (f1.8-2.8, 24-70mm), keep the price tag below 1500$ then I buy one instantly.

Link | Posted on Aug 13, 2018 at 08:25 UTC as 1st comment

8k is 4x4k, not twice 4k.

Link | Posted on Jun 4, 2018 at 10:36 UTC as 2nd comment
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Tomx72: Allright, if it is AVAILABLE, where is it? None of the GX80/85/gx7mII... aliases are mentioned on the download site, while the news are 5 days old.

Finally arrived today!

Link | Posted on Sep 28, 2016 at 08:29 UTC

Allright, if it is AVAILABLE, where is it? None of the GX80/85/gx7mII... aliases are mentioned on the download site, while the news are 5 days old.

Link | Posted on Sep 24, 2016 at 13:36 UTC as 4th comment | 1 reply

Cool camera! I am looking forward to the detailed review, if the video IQ (detail&noise) can match the rx100iv.

Link | Posted on Sep 19, 2016 at 16:12 UTC as 5th comment
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JordanAT: There has also not been a single instance of an iPhone 7 exploding on a commercial aircraft. That's a big step up from the last three versions...

iPhone 4 -
iPhone 5 -
iPhone 6 -

As with the bokeh discussion, we don't really know because nobody has one yet. But, hey - no news is good news, right?

Provided it's not out yet this is not a very hard goal to accomplish:). It's going to be harder and harder once sales are up and statistics kicks in.

Link | Posted on Sep 14, 2016 at 17:02 UTC
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BobORama: I would, quite literally, risk a house fire with a defective Samsung product than give another dime to Apple for their uncreative intellectual thievery. I can always charge my samsung on an asbestos pad, the apple will still be just as crappy when its not on fire.

Unless you grab one of the defective note7's you are not in a bigger risk with a galaxy than with an iphone. google for iphone fire or explosion, one example here:

Link | Posted on Sep 14, 2016 at 14:16 UTC

As usual, this is a "camera with you", nothing less, nothing more. The 1/2.3" sensor stays the same, one single added focal length won't make this a DSLR-killer. True, the small-sensor P&S is becoming a thing of the past.

Link | Posted on Sep 14, 2016 at 12:28 UTC as 33rd comment | 3 replies
On article Real world test: The Panono is a 108MP spherical camera (156 comments in total)
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Tomx72: The concept is good, but this still has a long way to go. In 2016 we should forget those 1/3, 1/4" tiny sensors, use at least a 1/2.3", which sits in my (and many people's) smartphone while 1/1.7 (+0.7-1EV!) is on the way.

To make a 1k$+worth investment, a standalone camera should not lag behind phones.

Optics also has a lot to evolve here, image borders are distorted beyond the limit that would make even 1/4th of the huge pixel-count viable.

Missing video is also a no-go, everybody wants video...

Exactly, a modern phone camera module with lens sells definitely below 20$. Add fullHD VIDEO capable readout electronics then you're at around 50$. The 1500$ price would be only realistic using these modules AND enable 8-10xFullHD-size video. BTW, at this price point you can get 12 cheap fullHD action cams and build your own video-capable rig...

Link | Posted on Aug 23, 2016 at 14:03 UTC
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