primeshooter

+1.

Let's hope this is the case. Then if they get their AF sorted I'll consider Z.

Tim this seems pretty stupid the more I read about it. I have had mis-givings about Nikon's mirrorless since their inception and every single thing they do pushes me towards Canon. Still no option...

Tim is this true that the Z cameras are focusing stopped down. This seems utterly stupid to me vs canons system...and dslr systems etc.

Tim thanks for posting this. The system just isn't good enough yet.

I did. Any minorly backlit scene the z system immediately struggles. Just like you...trying to defend nikon.

As i said. I have shot shot both. Youtube just confirms what i found. But please...go on pretending to people that the z7ii haa af that matches canon tech...

That's not an achievement. It should be expected that a camera costing over 2K in 2021 can AF on static subjects and be consistent. Time to raise the bar a little higher here.

Leonard, you are the same guy that says the D800 AF system never had a problem either so...your credibility is a bit shot on this subject. Just sayin' ...

@wjan, go on youtube, many videos showing what I mean. The system cannot even find faces on many occasions even sometimes in half decent light...

@wjan. The Z7ii has problems even recognising a face in slight backlit conditions (cannot even find it), whereas the R5 finds the eye. The Z7ii cannot track in any way like the R5.

@wjan of course, depending on situation and if you have used another brands, you might not encounter problems. But no, I tried it and I've tried an R5. R5 is much better...

I bet Nikon has collectively shouted a large swear word on seeing this. Meanwhile they cannot even get accurate eye AF and tracking on their bodies and Canon have just shifted the bar ever upwards....

I think this is also a large part of it. Again we are back at a little item known as autofocus. Autofocus video tech is not there for nikon yet as per stills it lags behind canons tech as it is ...

Yeah but having the camera's with deficiency's sure isn't going to help it. Their market share is greatly affected by market perception of their products which frankly, are that they have poor AF ...

That's simply because we compare products across the board, in current day terms. What we accepted from a ML in 2018 as "acceptable" now it has been shown for sports they can be much better. We ...

And this...is all I see in reviews and on youtube, and in my own testing of the Z7ii...

There you go. I fixed the review for you / them. A little better isn't what other review sites are saying so something's up...

Yeah, the difference is I can tell when an AF system is half decent within 5 mins of using it. Hm let me see, should some go with the AF system that needs very little setup, and just works, ...

Eh, stop you right there, I have used both the R5 and Z7ii.