Simon Joinson

Simon Joinson

DPReview Administrator
Lives in United States SEATTLE, WA, United States
Works as a Editor, writer, photographer
Has a website at www.dpreview.com
Joined on Jul 9, 2002
About me:

http://www.cff.org/

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alex326: Not happy with the white scheme, as I didn't like iOS7 pastel color scheme, Windows 8 tile menu, MS Office ribbons, Windows 10 light grey on grey scroll bars, the yellow/light grey on white maps unreadable on screens in bright light, the new Airliners.net white scheme. Sometimes people want to change something that really works and is well trusted, just for the sake of the change.
The new white scheme just makes things somewhat more difficult to use in a low lit environments and the use of the awful Apple inspired grey or light blue fonts on white just makes things more difficult to read in all lighting conditions.
Still, thank you for keeping the light/dark switch button handy.

we certainly considered light grey on light grey and yellow on white but in the end we decided black on white made more sense.

Link | Posted on Jun 25, 2016 at 03:59 UTC
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maccam: "Use the 'Reading mode' switch (top right of every page) to switch between black and white themes. Your choice is remembered."

Not really. The default is now white and I have to log in for your site to remember me. 98% of the time I never had to log in because I don't post much. Now I have to log in. Why not use black as the default? It has worked for me for the last 10 years.

JAW

right - if you don't save our cookies or log in (for registered users the choice is stored on our servers) then we have no way of knowing who you are when you visit (nor could any site).

Link | Posted on Jun 25, 2016 at 00:59 UTC
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keeponkeepingon: My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

Gosh that's bad. If y'all would like to make your page look less 1999 how about adapting your width or designing your page for wide monitors. So much wasted space and nothing says "old" or "dated" like wasting 50% of my screen space.

yup, one day we'll get an actual redesign :)

Link | Posted on Jun 25, 2016 at 00:20 UTC
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Rssrsvp: I still feel that in lieu of these 2 choices offered in the beta trial there should of been a medium gray color given as an option. That is the type of background shade that makes everything easy to read and is soothing to the eye.

Hi, could you show me a (text heavy) website you've used where this mid-grey works well, so we can think about whether it would even be possible in our current design? Thanks! SJ

Link | Posted on Jun 25, 2016 at 00:20 UTC
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Stephen McDonald: I'll bet you see a sharp drop in new sign-ups, as long as the "light" theme comes up as default for visitors.

and if you're right, we'll switch back. Because we use facts and data to drive our decisions, and don't consider it to be 'failure' if we try something and it turns out to be wrong.

Link | Posted on Jun 25, 2016 at 00:09 UTC
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maccam: "Use the 'Reading mode' switch (top right of every page) to switch between black and white themes. Your choice is remembered."

Not really. The default is now white and I have to log in for your site to remember me. 98% of the time I never had to log in because I don't post much. Now I have to log in. Why not use black as the default? It has worked for me for the last 10 years.

JAW

OK your choice will now be remembered between sessions even if you don't log in (we just tweaked the cookie).

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 23:54 UTC
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Stephen McDonald: You'd think that all these experiments and decisions about the "look" of the pages were made by 20-somethings. The "light" or dark on white option has type that is so faint and small, that it's much more difficult to read and it's harder to go up and down a page and find relevant things. The threaded view in the dark mode is essential to being able to follow a thread and spot what you want to find. I can still read the smaller type in the text box, but will I be able to do it 10 years from now?

My first reaction to the "light" look that was imposed by default when I opened up today, was to be appalled. It wasn't easy to find this explanation-----you should have posted a pop-up notice about it that would be quickly seen by anyone, anywhere on the forums. And the light background for photos is very degrading to them. We have an option of either now, but for how long? After reading some of the pro-light comments, I realize that we need a "dislike" button.

a couple of points - we ran a pop-up notice about this for 6 weeks and got daily feedback emails that would make your mother blush, so decided against more anger-generation. Also, interestingly the original black theme was chosen by a (then) 20-something, but I can assure you that this decision (to add an option people have been asking for since the late 1990's) was made by people who can hardly even remember being 20-something ;)

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 23:05 UTC
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Clyde Thomas: I'd like to see a monthly assessment to reveal black on white vs white on black viewer usage. Just interested to see how it changes over time.

we will provide an update in a month - if everyone chooses black it'll be a return to the dark side...

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 22:03 UTC
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JEROME NOLAS: Why do you fix what's not broken? You already screwed photo viewer for me so it takes up to 3 minutes 100% or the loupe. It was instant before! What is next. Pink one?

of course.

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 21:44 UTC
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Biological_Viewfinder: Coming in 2017, !!!!!!!!!RAiNbOw CoLOrS!!!!!!!!!

With our new RETRO-LITE BRIGHT pixel engine, where every character is rainbow colored right down to the pixel. Because people are weird, and we like weird people. YAY! RAINBOWS!!!

2018. Unicorn Seals of Approval. Because hey, rainbows and unicorns!
Come to think of it, maybe aquatic Unicorn Seals is a really creative thing.
2019. Unicorn Seals on Rocks!!!!

can't beat a good Slippery Slope argument.

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 21:41 UTC
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steviewa: The white version looks horrendous, by far it makes it the worst looking site out there

i'm still amazed that at least 6 people agree that this is now 'by far' the worst looking website on the internet (there are currently ~ 1.04 billion active websites)

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 21:40 UTC
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Jan Itor: What's next?
Red on black?

so you assume that the natural next step is to make the site completely illegible?

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 20:56 UTC
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Darkroom: I think the new DPR logo/header looks a little lost in the page now, doesn't seem to stand out as much, especially in the dark mode. Maybe it's the loss of the camera from it.

Any chance of a keyboard shortcut for switching modes? When the sun comes out, reflections are more visible on the screen, switching quickly with a shortcut would be useful without having to get to scroll to the top, change mode and get back to your place.

i'll find out. How about the space bar? down arrow? (joking :) )

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 20:02 UTC
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steviewa: The white version looks horrendous, by far it makes it the worst looking site out there

second worst: http://www.theworldsworstwebsiteever.com

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 19:36 UTC
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ZoranHR: I can not find ´dark/light' swicth on mobile version. Does anyone know where it is? Thanx

it's in the menu

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 19:34 UTC
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Robert Schroeder: Responses "fell into one of four buckets"? Obviously for my position there was no bucket: I don't care ;-)

I wouldn't have minded if the layout stayed as it was, but I don't think the new layout is bad, either – it indeed is probably a bit easier to read.

I've got more issues with the general usability of the site than with the layout, but it seems those things are slowly getting addressed, too...

'after filtering out all the complaints about the pop-up asking for feedback and those that took the time to tell us they had no opinion' (that includes you :) )

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 19:22 UTC
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Alphoid: Honestly, I think it hurts your branding. It's good to have a distinct brand. White-on-black may be very 1990, but you just went to 100% generic.

Have you considered a more artistic scheme? You can do very nice things with off-whites, which have better readability than white, and also help establish a unique feel and brand.

I'd just avoid the generic high-tech white-and-blue.

to be clear, as noted in this story and previous ones, this was NOT a redesign, it was a re-skin (a new coat of paint if you will). A site this big and this old cannot be redesigned in a matter of weeks, but we will be re-visiting the overall design at some point. Honestly that's the point we'll bring in UX expertise.

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 19:20 UTC
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gehairing: Why didn't you made the tests on an intermediate "gray" theme ?
For those who find white too white and/or black too black. :)
You've probably tried or discussed this option ?

many options were tried and tested, including gray.

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 19:00 UTC
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ChicagoInPhotographs: I think this website looks better than it ever has. One thing not mentioned is the font, I like the new font.... it is new right?

yes it is

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 18:52 UTC
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Alphoid: Honestly, I think it hurts your branding. It's good to have a distinct brand. White-on-black may be very 1990, but you just went to 100% generic.

Have you considered a more artistic scheme? You can do very nice things with off-whites, which have better readability than white, and also help establish a unique feel and brand.

I'd just avoid the generic high-tech white-and-blue.

I'll check with my sales and marketing team... oh yeah that's right, we don't have one.

Link | Posted on Jun 24, 2016 at 18:52 UTC
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