SteveJL

SteveJL

Lives in Canada Ontario, Canada
Works as a IT Bum
Joined on Apr 13, 2010

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Hmmmm, does this from the article "This pricing plan makes a similar special offer introduced last year into a permanent option" mean that the sub. price never goes up?

Link | Posted on Jun 22, 2014 at 09:16 UTC as 14th comment

Sad news :-( I'll always have fond memories of, and be thankful for, all that the Kodak brand line had available back when I got into SLR photography. The big K will always have a special place in my heart. R.I.P.

Link | Posted on Aug 23, 2013 at 08:19 UTC as 10th comment

I shoot with Canon 7D, Canon's DPP exports 16-but TIFFs from RAW, so will look at Corel PSP (or others) for final PP'g. All my upgrade/purchase plans (>~$1500 CDN) for Adobe s/w are out. I will not deal with this type of company.

Link | Posted on May 12, 2013 at 07:56 UTC as 155th comment | 2 replies
On article Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction (1824 comments in total)
In reply to:

ecm: On the upside, we should see the verb "to photoshop" disappear fairly quickly.....

Hehe, yeah, things will be "Gimped", or "Corel'ed", or "Nuked".

Link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 21:47 UTC
In reply to:

SteveJL: WOW! and WTHF? This link

http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20130508_1a-Adobe-legal-agreement.html

posted by Henry M. Hertz REALLY deserves a look as it truly portrays the level of Evil this move represents. NOT COOL AT ALL ADOBE. Takes everything to a hole new level.

Yes to all the above. The company I worked for would NEVER in a million years let their staff agree to these terms. I worked in IT and have also never seen anything like these. This is worse than costing more, having to be connected, or not having a physical product. Far, far worse.

Link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 21:44 UTC
On article Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction (1824 comments in total)

WOW! and WTHF? This link

http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20130508_1a-Adobe-legal-agreement.html

posted by Henry M. Hertz REALLY deserves a look as it truly portrays the level of Evil this move represents. NOT COOL AT ALL ADOBE. Takes everything to a hole new level.

Link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 18:57 UTC as 141st comment | 2 replies

WOW! and WTHF? This link

http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20130508_1a-Adobe-legal-agreement.html

posted by Henry M. Hertz REALLY deserves a look as it truly portrays the level of Evil this move represents. NOT COOL AT ALL ADOBE. Takes everything to a hole new level.

Link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 18:53 UTC as 224th comment | 5 replies

Hey DPR! Forget about the Poll and just send Adobe a link to this page. 15 mins on these Comments will tell the everything they need to know.

Here, let me help http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/08/Adobe-CC-Creative-Cloud-Complaints-Poll-of-Photographers-Photoshop-users

Link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 18:56 UTC as 380th comment | 1 reply
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Kinematic Digit: Assuming that the polls as they stand at 4059, it means that Adobe has approximately .8 million dollars to lose from this forum alone. Keep pushing and maybe Adobe will take notice. However Photoshop is only a small part of the CS suite that they sell to.

I was at an industry advisory board meeting with graphic professionals, and all of them were looking forward to the new change/subscription model. We discussed how this affects photographers and we all pretty much agreed if you're using Photoshop (not Lightroom) it is a horrible deal.

Not necessarily Howard.

I was going to buy CS sometime this year or next because I have the time and opportunity now to learn it properly. Will not do so now because a) I will NOT rent s/w and have it cost well over twice the cost over 5 years and nothing tangible to show for it, and b) I will NOT deal with a company that treats it's customers like this, and c) It is going to become MUCH harder to take the courses I was counting on taking as Ed. facilities drop courses.

My CS buy-in would have cost $1500 ($1200 initial + $300 for 2 updates). 5 years of CC rental would cost $3000 (plus whatever increases Adoobie applies in that time).

So, if you estimate that 2000 people here are lost revenue, at a modest average of $500 (I'm sure there are others like me), that's $1m lost, just among us at DPR. Worldwide, it will be MUCH more, I'm sure.

Link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 16:36 UTC
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Kevin Coppalotti: i still don't know how this works. Is the software installed on your machine and the licence checked once a month?
I hope you don't have to go online every time you want to edit a photo??

"i still don't know how this works. Is the software installed on your machine and the licence checked once a month?
I hope you don't have to go online every time you want to edit a photo??"

You are correct, it is installed locally and validates every 30 days and will also function (apparently) for 90 days if the checkpoint is missed. Photos can be, but do not have to stored in the "clood" errr "cloud". Also, we do not seem to have any control of the updating process, it will happen automagically.

Link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 09:06 UTC

I would have to be able to choose all of the first three to as they are equal highest importance. Did not choose at this time.

Link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 09:02 UTC as 571st comment
On article Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction (1824 comments in total)

Where's Anonymous when we need them? :-(

All kidding aside, I can see them reacting when they see the level of discontent this is causing. It's what they do ;-)

Link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 17:31 UTC as 346th comment | 2 replies
On article Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction (1824 comments in total)
In reply to:

Rick DeBari: People are signing the Eliminate the mandatory "Creative Cloud" subscription model petition at the rate of about one per minute this morning, myself included.

http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model

I would sign it too but they want too much personal info.

Link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 15:14 UTC
On article Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction (1824 comments in total)
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williams359: I don't mind paying monthly, I'm fine with it. But the price. I have upgraded photoshop each time at a cost of £150 - £199 but now they want £17.58 a month. We used to upgrade every 18 months so now the cost is up to £316. THATS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE PRICE. This has to have been the most obvious question of all to ask them.

"THATS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE PRICE."

and no forever-functional software installed. Talk about a hole new definition of value.

Link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 08:57 UTC
On article Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction (1824 comments in total)

Since this move clearly looks like Adobe will end up with a niche market for PS CC, they should maybe ask Avid how Pro Tools HD is doing these days compared to it's heyday, after making it so proprietary and dongle-based and so, so uber-expensive (hint: the alternative music production software/hardware market EXPLODED over the past 10 years and PT is left out in the cold with only big-budget customers).

Link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 07:48 UTC as 598th comment
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Madayrphoto: After the initial annoyance at Adobes move, I now feel its not really such a big deal. First and foremost Adobe as a company are in the game to make money. Say Ford had a monopoly as a car maker, think their prices , service and what you got would be as it is now. OK it may not be great, but no competition would make it a great deal worse. Amateur photographers are probably not important to Adobe, but corporate and business users are. This model of paying a monthly fee is actually common in the corporate world e.g. Microsoft. I use only a small fraction of CS6's functionality, and I guess using CS6 and maybe at a future date a more advanced Lightroom and Elements will prove perfectly adequate. Adobe are going to continue with these products, so I don't feel hard done by. Its an opportunity to seriously consider what full fat Photoshop actually offers that you can do by other means and save money into the bargain.

Could you imagine the uproar if nobody could ever buy a car again, but only rent (subscribe) instead? There would be riots and mayhem.

Link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 22:56 UTC
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bronxbombers4: What if their latest update one day suddenly requires say Windows 8/9 and you don't want/like Windows 8 and want to stick with Windows 7 until maybe Windows 10 comes out. At least with the current model you could use your current Adobe versions until you were ready.

Wouldn't that be Adobe forcing you to upgrade to Windows8/9 on top of the whole nasty mess? EVen if you run it as an extra boot you'd still have to buy the latest Windows and it would be a pain to have to re-boot to that OS each time you needed to use something from Adobe.

Indeed. Grrrr :-(

Link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 18:31 UTC

What Adobe might NOT be considering carefully enough here too, is that today's corporate budgets are not what they were 10 yrs ago, everything is cut, cut, cut and they're likely to lose more corp clients than they counted on.

Link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 18:30 UTC as 185th comment

I will ABSOLUTELY NEVER use installed s/w that depends on my Internet connection so Adobe CC is OUT for me. I can just see being up north in a small motel, not connected to the Internet and having CC try to call home, not connecting, then fail to start. Also, as previously noted, I am one of those who has a bandwidth limit, so Adobe CC potentially adds cost to my ISP bill as well as there subscription cost. Count me as a FAIL for them. I sincerely hope they fall flat on their faces for this decision. :-(

Link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 09:39 UTC as 355th comment
On article Just deployed: New dpreview.com forums system (693 comments in total)
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montygm: PS: Meant to ask you. When you have read all the way down to the end of the forum list and then click the next page to see following reviews...is there any way that DP came make the new page start from the TOP of the page rather than staying at the bottom and having user scrolling back up all over again?
Cheers.

Getting same here in Firefox 15.0.1. But not on all Forums, definitely happening in THIS feedback thread. Major PITA when encountered.

Link | Posted on Oct 4, 2012 at 16:40 UTC
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