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They are more or less the same.  The difference is the 830 has a Zeiss lens - I think that would be worth having.  The 800 has a Sony lens - but it's probably fine as well.

I would still find the extra $25 and get this one. It has a much better lens and I think anything at $70 will be disappointing and probably break in no time. A friend has the equivalent of this ...

This one could go on forever with all the pros and cons!  And I think there are pros and cons.  I still think a scanned print from Fuji Velvia has a better look than an image from a sensor - but a ...

Cheers. The 15mm seems the way to go probably, ruling out the bigger, heavier lenses. Wider would be nice, but wide-ish is all I need right now. Or the 12-32. Or both - but that would mean too much ...

Or if you can stretch to $117 this - has a zeiss lens. Have found sony compacts very good and reliable. https://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSCW830-Digital-Camera-2-7-Inch/dp/B00HNJWUC2/ref=sr_1_3?s=electr ...

How about one of these? Fun, easy to use - but could get expensive in film. https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Instax-Mini-70-Instant/dp/B015R3WUNO/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1532307360&sr=8-14&keywords= ...

Thanks all.  Looking at primes.  How wide?  To be honest I just want something wider than the 20mm - not wider than 12mm,  The Panasonic Leica 15mm seems popular.

Interesting.  I have only recently acquired my first "good" digital camera after selling my favourite film camera and lenses some eight years ago.  And have recently been informed that film is ...

For my Olympus EM10ii I have a couple of lenses.  After trying and returning the odd one I have the 20mm Panasonic (which I love both for field of view and IQ) and a second copy of the 45mm ...

I think you are misinterpreting what I said :-)  My initial thoughts were it seemed a bit slower than my other lens, but not slow by any means.  And I noticed a louder noise but no longer notice ...

Yes I'm using in on a newer Olympus so maybe that makes a difference (OMD EM10ii). Maybe I phrased "photographing dancing people" wrong! While IS won't freeze movement, it was also low light so IS ...

It's a fantastic lens! I know that is not news - but there is so much out there about the "issues" - flare, banding, slow focus, noisy etc. That actually influenced me a bit when my 20mm lens ...

What's wrong with being older anyway :-)  Age is experience.  I think we're lucky to have both screens and viewfinders and have different tools for the job at the relevent time.  But screens ...

Heavy is relative to me :-)  Just want to keep things small and light.

That is a great photo!  I have re-ordered the 45mm elsewhere - I think my copy wasn't good.  Hopefully the next one will be better.  Ultimately I did like it being small and lightweight and ...

Cheers!  The Laowa lenses look great.  But have gone to a different way of thinking.  Have the 20mm panasonic which is a bit wide and focuses close enough.  And thinking about the 30mm macro lens ...

That is a tough one. I also considered my purchases an investment but didn't buy for investment purposes. It was a big thing at one time. But honestly just bad luck - so I am sure your wife is ...

Thanks that's a good site.  Closer than 20cm!  I think it's telling me that I need something less wide than 12mm if focusing closer isn't possible.  Maybe I'll just stick with the Panasonic 20mm - ...

Wow!  Not heard of that one.  Cheers.

Thanks - someone else mentioned the Panasonic 45 f1.7 as well.  Do you use it on an Olympus body and are there real issues with purple fringing in general use with Olympus bodies or is that all ...