ovrebekk

ovrebekk

Lives in Norway Trondheim, Norway
Works as a Software engineer
Joined on Aug 4, 2005
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Nikon D500
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Tim C.: "Deep Fill is powered by the Adobe Sensei technology—which "uses artificial intelligence (AI), machine learning and deep learning"—and trained using millions of real-world images."

I may be overreacting in assuming this, but are the millions of real-world images coming from users who have uploaded their images to Adobe's cloud-based system? If not, where are these millions of images coming from?

This is not the first AI powered system that requires images to train the algorithms. I am sure there are plenty of stock image sets that can be used.

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2017 at 15:24 UTC
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entoman: Fake photography.

Just now you realize that Photoshop can be used to make "fake" images?
It isn't exactly new :)

This seems like a great improvement of content aware fill.
When I travel to some beautiful vista to get landscape images I am not there to document the back sides of other tourists standing in front of me, I am there to try to get some interesting pictures ;)

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2017 at 15:23 UTC
On article More Nikon D850 samples images added (167 comments in total)

Nice shots, they look good to me :)

As expected 'the Internet' has agreed they are rubbish, but that is to be expected ;)

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2017 at 14:42 UTC as 32nd comment | 1 reply
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Patrick Kristiansen: That third shot is plainly awesome. Really hope to get up north again some time soon, but Lofoten is literally overrun by tourists these days.

And this movie isn't going to make it any better :P

Link | Posted on Oct 3, 2017 at 18:19 UTC
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mako69: Ever since 1967 when the Camaro debuted, many of those cars got the same engine as the Corvette. One would expect the lighter Camaro to out perform the Corvette, but GM would always de-tune the motors slightly in favor of the Corvette. (The 1969 ZL1 being an exception, but that's a different story!) Bottom line: Nikon isn't going to risk angering the pros who bought their $6500 flagship D5 camera by releasing one a year later with twice the MP at half the price that is just as good.

Remember, way back in 2007 the D3 came out, followed a year later by the D3x with a different sensor. Fast forward to 2012: the D800, released one month after the D4, was essentially the D4x.

The AF tracking comparison of the D850 with the D5 is actually pretty silly. Most people sitting for a portrait, mountains in the distance, or couples at a wedding don't move fast enough to require 7 fps. The lighting is usually fantastic as well.

This amateur is willing, I can tell you that :)

I am sure the AF is still better than pretty much any DSLR out there, with the exception of the D5 and some other pro models ;)

Link | Posted on Oct 2, 2017 at 22:30 UTC
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viper699: Great another HD that can become a brick at any given time.

Weird comment. Thats like saying "Great. Another car that can crash at any time" every time there is a new car announcement ;)

Link | Posted on Oct 2, 2017 at 14:13 UTC
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mako69: Ever since 1967 when the Camaro debuted, many of those cars got the same engine as the Corvette. One would expect the lighter Camaro to out perform the Corvette, but GM would always de-tune the motors slightly in favor of the Corvette. (The 1969 ZL1 being an exception, but that's a different story!) Bottom line: Nikon isn't going to risk angering the pros who bought their $6500 flagship D5 camera by releasing one a year later with twice the MP at half the price that is just as good.

Remember, way back in 2007 the D3 came out, followed a year later by the D3x with a different sensor. Fast forward to 2012: the D800, released one month after the D4, was essentially the D4x.

The AF tracking comparison of the D850 with the D5 is actually pretty silly. Most people sitting for a portrait, mountains in the distance, or couples at a wedding don't move fast enough to require 7 fps. The lighting is usually fantastic as well.

"Bottom line: Nikon isn't going to risk angering the pros who bought their $6500 flagship D5 camera by releasing one a year later with twice the MP at half the price that is just as good."
I can't remember a lot of angry pro's stepping forward when Nikon implied the D850 would have comparable AF to the D5?

Link | Posted on Oct 2, 2017 at 11:26 UTC
On article Nikon D850 Review (2104 comments in total)
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Boeing skipper: A Dynamic Range post on DPreview, 600 comments in just a few hours.
People seem almost obsessed with it.

My first camera was an old SLR I found in my fathers closet. The light meter was a bit wonky and would often give me shots that were over exposed with 3-4 stops.
While the shots were pretty bland and low in contrast, they were definitely better than what a DSLR would have provided me ;)
It's worth noting I didn't do the processing myself, just standard color film.

Link | Posted on Sep 18, 2017 at 19:53 UTC
On article Nikon D850 Review (2104 comments in total)
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Azathothh: Sigh... choose 3 EV @ ISO100 and most modern full-frame cameras look all the same for me, even the (zomg!) the 5DSR... i mean cmon when do you really need to do a 6 stops push? 1 in a 10000 photos? But hey keep spending money.... Nikon/Sony/ Pentax/Canon loves when you buy them the latest and most expensive gear.

Having it just means you get less noise when you push your shadows.

You don't need it to take good photos, but you will appreciate it if you have it ;)

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 22:44 UTC
On article Nikon D850 Review (2104 comments in total)
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Boeing skipper: A Dynamic Range post on DPreview, 600 comments in just a few hours.
People seem almost obsessed with it.

@JhvaElohimMeth Have you forgotten about film already? ;)

In the real old days you had much more leeway in terms of under and over exposure (especially the latter), and you had the ability to recover a lot both from the shadows and highlights.

Controlling light when you can is good, but it isn't always possible or desirable. The more dynamic range you have the more flexibility you have, it's as simple as that.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 22:26 UTC
On article Nikon D850 Review (2104 comments in total)
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tgchan: Am I looking and interpreting it wrong or PENTAX K-1 sensor kicks its a*se (in terms of quality/noise)?

If I am not mistaken they perform the same "tricks" on all cameras?
Comparing samples at 100% would be more misleading, as it would give low res cameras an unfair advantage.

Link | Posted on Sep 11, 2017 at 21:28 UTC
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attomole: What is nice is that Nikon made the best darn all-round DSLR they could, the recent D500 and D5 are both competition, but looks like the specs have not been brain damaged in some way so as not to compromise the market position of there own related products.

I think it's more about DSLR's still having the edge in performance for demanding professionals, not that they think DSLR's will be the best forever.

It's probably wise for Nikon and Canon to keep the pressure in the DSLR space, where there is still plenty of money to be made, and have a separate team working on realizing the mirrorless revolution ;)

Link | Posted on Aug 24, 2017 at 21:28 UTC
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Hellstrom: Mid-level phones from 2013 had the same lame 64Gb storage as this supposedly flagship model.

Get the OnePlus Five - more RAM, more storage, also dual cameras, half the price.

"Mid-level phones from 2013 had the same lame 64Gb storage as this supposedly flagship model"
That was news to me. Which ones?

Link | Posted on Aug 24, 2017 at 20:01 UTC
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nelsonjeremy: You can do this with jpegs in Nikon ViewNX2 in 2 minutes. Raw is not a necessity.

Banding will show up much quicker if you do this with a JPG.
The question is how many stops you need to push.

Link | Posted on Aug 24, 2017 at 19:52 UTC
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attomole: What is nice is that Nikon made the best darn all-round DSLR they could, the recent D500 and D5 are both competition, but looks like the specs have not been brain damaged in some way so as not to compromise the market position of there own related products.

That's not really their style, nor do they have the market position to pull it off.

I am sure Nikon is hoping to get some market share back from Canon with this one, which is much more important than selling a couple of extra D5's ;)

Link | Posted on Aug 24, 2017 at 17:03 UTC
On article Nikon D850 Review (2104 comments in total)
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Tapper123: A very impressive DSLR. $3300 is abut $700 cheaper than many were expecting. A good entry from Nikon. Now, can they produce it without problems, and market it effectively?

I think they have been marketing it well enough already, partly by having the community do a lot of the marketing for them :)

As for production problems you can never be sure, but Nikon seem pretty good at fixing issues if they appear.

Link | Posted on Aug 24, 2017 at 17:01 UTC
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ovrebekk: I don't really see the market for this.
Even if the phone had exactly the same performance and available settings as a DSLR, which obviously it doesn't, wouldn't you want a real camera for the ergonomic improvement alone?
Who wants to do extensive studio shooting on a phone?

Who invests in proper studio lighting without owning a camera?

A phone is great for pictures when you're out and about and want to travel light. How often do people travel without a camera but with a lot of studio equipment in their bag?

Not really my point. I love my smart phone camera, and the fact that I can take decent pictures even without my DSLR at hand. 95% of the time it is the only camera I have ;)

My point is that I find it very strange that someone interested in photography wouldn't have a dedicated camera as well, be it a DSLR, mirrorless, decent compact or whatever.

I believe that the number of people with enough interest in photography to buy external flashes, but without enough interest to buy a dedicated camera, is very small. I could be wrong of course, it's happened before ;)

The problem you talk about is more about normal people that just want decent pictures of events in their life. In the old days they would have bought a Nikon Coolpix or a Sony Powershot, whereas today many of them just stick to their phone.

Link | Posted on Aug 12, 2017 at 12:08 UTC
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ovrebekk: I don't really see the market for this.
Even if the phone had exactly the same performance and available settings as a DSLR, which obviously it doesn't, wouldn't you want a real camera for the ergonomic improvement alone?
Who wants to do extensive studio shooting on a phone?

Who invests in proper studio lighting without owning a camera?

A phone is great for pictures when you're out and about and want to travel light. How often do people travel without a camera but with a lot of studio equipment in their bag?

@cdembrey
I would still argue the ergonomics make a difference, even if you have the camera on a tripod.
And do you have a dedicated phone for pictures, or do you just have a single one that you use for everything?
I prefer having my phone available for other purposes, such as taking calls or using it to control the camera.
If you have a dedicated phone for pictures then you don't have that issue, but I would rather buy a DSLR for half the price of an iPhone that provides better image quality and ergonomics, not to forget replacable optics.

By all means, if it works for you then more power to you, but I think it's going to be a while until we see many studio photographers switch to their phones ;)

@Kung Fu
I never heard anyone say, "Hey check out the latest camera from Apple, the iPhone 6" ;)
What I mean by camera is a device that is called a camera (ie designed for taking pictures primarily), not just a device that has one. If that wasn't clear I apologize.

Link | Posted on Aug 9, 2017 at 18:28 UTC
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aramgrg: Thanks, if I have a studio, I'd rather buy an entry level DSLR+ entry level 50mm 1.8 lens. Half the price of Iphone, 5 times better IQ

What about worrying about catching the right moment while your are fiddling around with the phone?

Using a proper camera for studio shooting is about more than just raw image quality.

Link | Posted on Aug 8, 2017 at 13:12 UTC

I don't really see the market for this.
Even if the phone had exactly the same performance and available settings as a DSLR, which obviously it doesn't, wouldn't you want a real camera for the ergonomic improvement alone?
Who wants to do extensive studio shooting on a phone?

Who invests in proper studio lighting without owning a camera?

A phone is great for pictures when you're out and about and want to travel light. How often do people travel without a camera but with a lot of studio equipment in their bag?

Link | Posted on Aug 8, 2017 at 13:10 UTC as 10th comment | 5 replies
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