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@Mistral75: > You are unfortunately using

I’m not “using” anything. I was just showing examples of Nikon using the method which I outlined above (see the numbers in parentheses).

> the...

@Mistral75: >Canon Imaging System \ Cameras only includes still cameras (and lenses).

Wrong. See p.18 of Canon Annual Report 2018. Camcorders etc. are included.

Not clear where you got your numbers. Sony’s revenue for still+video is 421, for video 87 B¥. Nikon’s “Imaging” segment got 296B¥ (I have no info how it was split, and “between what”); they say...

In short: for FY-Q4 I’m using EXACTLY the same rules as for Q1, Q2, and Q3 (no subtraction of an “artificial” decided-long-ago-in-advance penalty).

My calculations were different (but along the same lines as yours). AFAIK, for Canon, “Cameras” means the same as for Sony (“Still+Video”). (Then “IJP” is Printers, “Others” is calculators etc.) ...

@Mistral75: See https://nikonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Nikon-2019-forecast-550x420.jpg

Nikon uses parentheses for this way of calculation. IIRC, this correction is “a penalty” for a...

See the Notes (3 and 4, IIRC).

The numbers you use are “doctored” numbers, not reflecting the “real” profit, but taking into account penalties for errors made long ago. To “fix”, you need to...

@ozturert: > which has never been the case.

Can you support this claim? I doubt it very much!

> is based on value.

What else should one consider? Who cares about units?! What is important to...

Yes, I know. I also know that Canon’s and Nikon’s numbers are from their financial reports too.

However, it took me some time to extract these numbers from these reports. So if there were a...

@sirhawkeye64: > you have to speculate with a bunch of "IFs".

There are scenarios where this makes sense indeed — provided you have some basis for your deliberations. However, do you think there...

I remembered wrong. Sony aims for 2021:
    https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/

On the other hand, about Feb’18 they were...

Oups: I remembered wrong. Sony aims for 2021, not 2020:
  https://petapixel.com/2018/05/22/sony-investing-9b-in-image-sensors-aims-to-be-top-camera-brand-by-2021/

On the other hand, about Feb’18...

@Mistral75:

Where did you get these numbers? Is it your own compilation? (BTW: do you have a similar table for R&D spendings of the camera divisions?)

ATTENTION other readers: this table...

@Mistral75:

You are dividing by wrong numbers. The markets for still-cameras, still-cameras+lenses, still+video+lenses are different.

Slightly better calculation (for camera sectors of the...

@Abel89er

Please support this by numbers. Sony said (last summer): “we plan to do this in 2020”. (At that moment, it looked crazy!) Now the trend numbers support this (of course, this assumes...

Mmmm? This estimate may be wrong!

In Jan–Mar 2019 Canon’s revenue is down 23% YoY; Sony’ down 7.3%. *If this continues,* then in Jan–Mar 2020 Canon gets 75.3 B¥, Sony 76.3.

(In fact, this is...

@Arun H:

While I completely agree with you (apparently, DPR staff has no clue to tell a financial report from PR talk to investors), the financial reports support this claim. For example, see my...

Moreover, with reflected light, he won’t need to make thin slices.

@Nothing new

I know no physical mechanism which would ROTATE polarization during reflection. (As opposed to preferring a particular polarization — as usual!)

Could you illuminate (sic!) me? (In...

@ClosePhoto: > Dominating a dying, shrinking industry.

What makes you think so? Here is the shipping of Compact+Mirrorless in Q1 of the last 5 years (B¥):
72.7 63.5 73.2 62.1 ...