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If it helps keeping this wonderful little camera brand alive: why not?
Notwitholding: Very pretty.
Too bad no aperture control on the lenses.
The available Voigtlaenders have nice aperture rings, so that's available for the format. But I agree, it would be cool if Nikon would build retro lenses too.
The f-stop indicator display on the Zfc is pretty cool, btw.
zakk9: To those (around 50% of the posters) who complain that it's not full frame:
There is a full frame version available. It's called the Df. Not mirrorless you say? Make up your mind. Do you want retro or not?
In Germany, 35mm film used to be called "Kleinbild" - "small image" in direct translation, but it rather means "small format". Then there was medium format and large format. In the digital age, APS-C is sort of Kleinbild. So in a certain way it fits quite well for a retro camera.
PortraitLover: should have done FF on this look, 40mm would be perfect for 1 lens 1 camera, but not as apsc
vlado29 wrote: "I agree, it’s mind blowing none of the big brands has come up with a retro looking FF mirrorless camera for hobbyists…"
Well, Leica has.
Sc1920: And still no blur tool...
Admittedly, I have no idea of blur tools and my comment was not meant too serious ;-)
349 € for a digital photo laboratory - I'd say that's a good deal. Actually, it's one of the cheapest elements of a photography workspace (compared to rent, investments in computer hardware and storage, camera gear, printer, ink and paper). I don't even think about it but just upgrade every two years.
Sc1920: And still no blur tool...
You can find that on your lens. It has the form of a ring and if you're lucky it clicks when you turn it.
Looks like an excellent lens with good sharpness and creamy bokeh. The transition with very close subjects (most notable image 3, shoulder in the back, also images 2, 22) is a matter of personal taste.
Thanks for the great gallery, DPR!
Many will like the manual appeal and the very good JPGs Fuji cameras produce. Besides the Fuji offerings, Cosina Voigtlaender has excellent lenses for the system. Looks like a highly capable, lovely tool.
FlyinDoc: Nikon said mirrorless cameras will never match DSLRs for Auto focus. Sony responded with the A9. Then they said the new Z-mount is so large because of "small mount limitations". Sony engineers said "Hold my saké" and came up with the tiny but brilliant 14mm f/1.8 GM and 8-stop IBIS.
At this point, if anyone has any request for Sony improvements, I'd say please forward them to Nikon and you are guaranteed to get it.
@mikerant This is a technical discussion about a new product. It can be relevant for photographers with cameras from different brand but the same segment, e.g. to reassess their system choice.
Your argument that loyalists of a brand are morally superior to loyalists of another does not sound convincing to me. And it certainly is of no value in discussing aspects that are technical, aesthetical, or are related to usability and workflow.
snapshtr: I'm noticing a trend that sensor development for stills cameras has plateaued. Any new sensor development is geared towards video (stacked sensors with fast read-out speed). Advances for stills cameras are now focused on the processor side (AF algorithms, mostly) and improvement in IBIS performance.
I agree. And it is difficult to imagine where else development could go. Most likely not minimization, because then camera makers would abandon all advantages they still have over smartphone cameras.
FlyinDoc: Nikon said mirrorless cameras will never match DSLRs for Auto focus. Sony responded with the A9. Then they said the new Z-mount is so large because of "small mount limitations". Sony engineers said "Hold my saké" and came up with the tiny but brilliant 14mm f/1.8 GM and 8-stop IBIS.
At this point, if anyone has any request for Sony improvements, I'd say please forward them to Nikon and you are guaranteed to get it.
Besides diameter, the Z mount offers a very short flange distance. You can adapt almost any lens. For some, that is a big plus.
phouphou: I think thats really great, if it only wasnt so expensive.
But will this maybe result in used prices staying on a more reasonable level?
Used prices for Leicas are at very reasonable levels - for those who own Leica gear.
I'll use this as an opportunity to remind of the great angelo d'Arrigo who once flew over Everest with a hang glider.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUvzVt5R61o
felix from the suburbs: It's really a shame the Beatles are no longer around. It would have been nice to have separate George, Paul, John and Ringo editions. They would have gone well with the 4 piece Beatle souvenir coffee mug set I bought a long time ago.
Those Beatles editions cameras would be mono-chrome, I assume?
anwiko: Wonderful video, thank you once again, guys!
I wondered, if it should just be called the Leice expensience. For me, the ambivalence is not really resolvable. Leicas have become luxury items, sold in boutiques located in very expensive streets. At the same time, this strategy helped Leica survive. At a high price, you can get cameras that offer a unique shooting concept, the rangefinder (get here doesn't mean afford and unique does not mean superior). I love shooting the M10. But I also know that 1 out of 6 people in Germany go with one meal less a day due to the increased living costs (https://taz.de/Armut-und-Inflation/!5859671/). When I make myself aware of that fact, it feels absurd to use the Leica. "So you need this for your experience? Do you know that other people need food. Or electricity. Or natural gas, to heat their homes?" A way to deal with that is to see the Leica as a reminder of ones' privilege. Understand it as a form of responsibility.
@TRU: Maybe I was unprecise or you read too fast. I was not talking about Leica as a company but made an agrument from a consumer/photographer perspective.
anwiko: Wonderful video, thank you once again, guys!
I wondered, if it should just be called the Leice expensience. For me, the ambivalence is not really resolvable. Leicas have become luxury items, sold in boutiques located in very expensive streets. At the same time, this strategy helped Leica survive. At a high price, you can get cameras that offer a unique shooting concept, the rangefinder (get here doesn't mean afford and unique does not mean superior). I love shooting the M10. But I also know that 1 out of 6 people in Germany go with one meal less a day due to the increased living costs (https://taz.de/Armut-und-Inflation/!5859671/). When I make myself aware of that fact, it feels absurd to use the Leica. "So you need this for your experience? Do you know that other people need food. Or electricity. Or natural gas, to heat their homes?" A way to deal with that is to see the Leica as a reminder of ones' privilege. Understand it as a form of responsibility.
Apart from that: I have never had a camera where I found the results as touching as with the Leica. They are luxury items, but they are such amazing tools, too.
Wonderful video, thank you once again, guys!
I wondered, if it should just be called the Leice expensience. For me, the ambivalence is not really resolvable. Leicas have become luxury items, sold in boutiques located in very expensive streets. At the same time, this strategy helped Leica survive. At a high price, you can get cameras that offer a unique shooting concept, the rangefinder (get here doesn't mean afford and unique does not mean superior). I love shooting the M10. But I also know that 1 out of 6 people in Germany go with one meal less a day due to the increased living costs (https://taz.de/Armut-und-Inflation/!5859671/). When I make myself aware of that fact, it feels absurd to use the Leica. "So you need this for your experience? Do you know that other people need food. Or electricity. Or natural gas, to heat their homes?" A way to deal with that is to see the Leica as a reminder of ones' privilege. Understand it as a form of responsibility.
Do the electronic parts also use gold contacts?
If fast enough, this could create "stock" photos based on the keywords entered.