Leandros S

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On article Pentax KP Review (433 comments in total)
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Hannu108: “Thanks to the noise reduction, it even punches above its sensor size and price bracket, showing a similar performance to a D750”

I wonder where they got it...

https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6754575531/photos/3612267/pentax-kp-d750-k-ii-a6300_iso6400?inalbum=dpreview-tests

I see blotchiness on both samples, the KP and the D750 - I assume this is what you refer to as "artefacts". The noise on the dark background is better controlled in the Pentax image.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 18:30 UTC
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Holger Bargen: Don't know which lens you used for the test. My impression is that this lens should be send for a check on the optical bench. Quality is low and compared to previous tests (if it is the same lens) things seem to become even worse.

I still think you're wrong, especially given that it spools up quite quickly. So there's no reason it shouldn't disengage when stationary.

Unfortunately, the KP manual says almost nothing about SR. But one could take some shots and inspect the EXIF to get the answer.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 18:24 UTC
On article Pentax KP Review (433 comments in total)
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Hannu108: “Thanks to the noise reduction, it even punches above its sensor size and price bracket, showing a similar performance to a D750”

I wonder where they got it...

https://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6754575531/photos/3612267/pentax-kp-d750-k-ii-a6300_iso6400?inalbum=dpreview-tests

BSI-CMOS. But it won't be long before they put the same tech into full frame DSLRs. Sony already has it working on the A7R II and a99 II (but the latter doesn't reach full performance because the translucent mirror splits the light roughly in half).

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 17:22 UTC
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brianphoto: How is the shutter noise on the KP? Oddly one of the complaints I received from all my models was that they didn't like the K5 because they couldn't hear the shutter. They preferred the sound of the K10 and K20 better. They all said that when they hear the click of the shutter, they knew to move on to the next pose. So with the K5, I had to verbally signal them after I've clicked the shutter to have them move to a new pose. Of course with flash, this wasn't a problem, but their comments made me more aware of the little things they like when we do our shoots. So is the KP as quiet at the K5?

I think you'll be okay with the KP, but check for yourself:
https://breakfastographer.wordpress.com/2017/02/05/pentax-dslr-shutter-sounds-part-2/

The page will take some time to load because apparently it has every Pentax shutter sound video embedded that's known to man.

The KP is somewhere between a K-5 or K-3 and a K-70.

Fwiw, in this video, it seems to be quieter than the K-1. I was surprised about this given that previous 1/6000 shutters from Pentax have always been quite loud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwrOl1O7u44

Also surprised that you want a loud shutter, but for your use case, it makes sense. :)

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 17:15 UTC
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A Curious Passer By: Dear Pentax,

Please bring back a DSLR that can take AA batteries without the need for a battery grip. I don't need fanciful features, but I do like to have a nice a bright viewfinder, WR and the convenience of AA batteries when shooting at remote places. A modern digital ME super with hyper-M & A modes would be a great start. ;-)

You need to use the D-BG7 to get that functionality, according to Adorama:
https://www.adorama.com/ipxbg7.html

The Pentax K-x, K-r, K-30, K-500 and K-50 could use AA batteries without an additional grip attached.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 16:02 UTC
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TheRealYeats: "Getting sharp shots up close is easy thanks to the KP's 'SR II' 5-axis image stabilization.
Pentax 35mm F2.8 Macro | ISO 800 | 1/500 sec | F5.6
Photo by Sam Spencer."

Given the caption, one would think the photo and shooting specs would be a demonstration.

Correction, French fries were 1/200, 1/500 is the flower with water drops.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 15:46 UTC
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ogl: There are a lot of dials and buttons, but no direct control for Shake Reduction. Why?

@ogl: Tan68's suggestion does sound like a pretty reasonable work-around. Is there something else that you need Info+dial to do that it conflicts with?

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 15:04 UTC
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fedway: I don't know why DPR keeps referring to this as a K3ll replacement. It isn't. The KP is the higher end model on the KS2/KS1 line. The K70 is the lower end of the K+number line, with the K-1 being high-end, and the K3ll and its real replacement being the mid. Seems Pentax has K followed by numbers as it's more traditional line, whilst the K followed by a letter as it's more fashion forward, prime lens oriented line. The K+number is for the camera as tool market. The K+letter is for the photography as life style market.

Nothing wrong with comparisons, but sources have stated that the K-3 II successor announcement is about two months away or less, and Pentax have been clear that the KP is not it, yet. The KP does not have:
- dual card slots
- 1/8000 shutter
- large raw buffer
- top LCD
- USB 3
- any IR ports

For these reasons, it is a camera that many professionals wouldn't use. And just in case it needs any more emphasis, all of these except dual cards and USB 3 have been present on the K-7/5/3 body since 2009. It is a classic, award-winning flagship camera line, a body praised for its ergonomics and there is zero chance that Pentax are just going to say, "well, stuff it" to something so consistently successful over the years.

However, the "K-3 III" will probably be heavier, will probably not have a configurable grip, may or may not have an articulating display of some sort, and may not have flash. So the KP was designed around a different use case, as an alternative choice.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 15:00 UTC
On article Pentax KP Review (433 comments in total)
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A Curious Passer By: Dear Pentax,

Please bring back a DSLR that can take AA batteries without the need for a battery grip. I don't need fanciful features, but I do like to have a nice a bright viewfinder, WR and the convenience of AA batteries when shooting at remote places. A modern digital ME super with hyper-M & A modes would be a great start. ;-)

My experience with AA batteries is that the camera tends to burn through them quite quickly, in both interpretations of that phrase. Disposable batteries don't last very long, and rechargeable ones have a considerably shortened lifespan when used in the camera. By contrast, the Li-90 and Li-109 batteries I've owned lasted many years in spite of frequent use. And you can get third party ones with good reputation from $15 a piece or so, and, once charged, they'll hold their charge until you use them on your trip. Otoh, if airlines get any more skittish about transporting lithium ion batteries, offering users an AA battery option might become a killer feature. *sigh* We're really going back to the stone ages, aren't we?

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 14:27 UTC
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phoenix15: I wonder what is lenses used for studio test ? it looks not very sharp, and tend to be purple fringing at high iso.

Pentax doesn't manipulate the image as much as others. Nikon in particular is known for sharpening quite a bit.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 14:22 UTC
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Marty4650: Pentax keeps proving, over and over again, that having outstanding cameras that are jam packed with features, and that deliver incredible image quality and value just isn't enough to make a serious dent in the shrinking DSLR market that is dominated by two 800 pound gorillas.

It just seems like an exercise in futility. What a pity.

IBIS.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 14:18 UTC
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chbde: Impressive high iso image quality, I did not expect that they would be able to improve significantly on the current level. Still, the noise reduction on raw files is something rather unwelcome, they clearly seem to do some smoothing, and I can't see any real advantage of this apart from looking good in tests, but I may err.
DPR, do you have any information about the why and how of noise reduction on raw levels? Is it a necessary consequence of the way the imaging pipeline in the camera works at high iso, or just a marketing/convenience tool? And how do they do it? It looks a bit like chroma NR, but that would imply demosaicing->NR->"re-mosaicing", which does not sound realistic. Did you talk about that topic with Pentax or other manufacturers? It's not the first camera to pull this kind of tricks, would be interesting what's their stance on this.

I should add that my comments are particularly in relation to older Pentax bodies with the 16 megapixel sensor. Things may have changed, but I've not seen it reported. While the KP seems to have fairly fine noise (good), it does seem to have some structure at high ISO, suggesting some compression or possibly a glitch in ACR demosaicing that may need to be further optimised for low SNR.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 12:02 UTC
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Hellraiser: Pentax,
Please make a lighter DSLR. You managed to do it with K-S1 we know youcould do it with another or just put K-S1 back on the market.

@Alex Sarbu: I always emphasised that the LEDs can be disabled. The notion of simply NOT using a feature just because it's there proved alien to some.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 11:34 UTC
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Hellraiser: Pentax,
Please make a lighter DSLR. You managed to do it with K-S1 we know youcould do it with another or just put K-S1 back on the market.

We've given you a number of components that are included in Pentax cameras, that are wanted by Pentax users and that are not also all present in any competitor's camera that is lighter. Your post needs to be hashtagged with #lalalaNotHearingYou

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 11:31 UTC
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TheRealYeats: "Getting sharp shots up close is easy thanks to the KP's 'SR II' 5-axis image stabilization.
Pentax 35mm F2.8 Macro | ISO 800 | 1/500 sec | F5.6
Photo by Sam Spencer."

Given the caption, one would think the photo and shooting specs would be a demonstration.

@Tan68: Indeed, a close-up of French fries.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 UTC
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fedway: I don't know why DPR keeps referring to this as a K3ll replacement. It isn't. The KP is the higher end model on the KS2/KS1 line. The K70 is the lower end of the K+number line, with the K-1 being high-end, and the K3ll and its real replacement being the mid. Seems Pentax has K followed by numbers as it's more traditional line, whilst the K followed by a letter as it's more fashion forward, prime lens oriented line. The K+number is for the camera as tool market. The K+letter is for the photography as life style market.

Pentax issued a correction about two days after the original announcement through their official Facebook account, and have been adamant about it since in interviews, at trade shows, etc. Good rumours die hard.

Any tech journalist still stating that the KP is a direct successor has been sleeping on the job.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 09:49 UTC
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Hellraiser: Pentax,
Please make a lighter DSLR. You managed to do it with K-S1 we know youcould do it with another or just put K-S1 back on the market.

Pentax cameras have IBIS and pentaprisms. Of course, they're heavier. Duh.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 09:46 UTC
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ogl: There are a lot of dials and buttons, but no direct control for Shake Reduction. Why?

Sounds like the story of the AF area select dial...

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 09:44 UTC
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chbde: Impressive high iso image quality, I did not expect that they would be able to improve significantly on the current level. Still, the noise reduction on raw files is something rather unwelcome, they clearly seem to do some smoothing, and I can't see any real advantage of this apart from looking good in tests, but I may err.
DPR, do you have any information about the why and how of noise reduction on raw levels? Is it a necessary consequence of the way the imaging pipeline in the camera works at high iso, or just a marketing/convenience tool? And how do they do it? It looks a bit like chroma NR, but that would imply demosaicing->NR->"re-mosaicing", which does not sound realistic. Did you talk about that topic with Pentax or other manufacturers? It's not the first camera to pull this kind of tricks, would be interesting what's their stance on this.

Noisy files are bigger, and will fill up your buffer more quickly. To maintain the promised buffer performance independent of ISO, they have to cull the noise when it gets too bad. I've wished for the lossy treatment to be configurable, but the gods have not granted my wish.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 09:41 UTC
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photosen: Looks very nice, the different grips are a great idea, hopefully they don't introduce any creaks.

@yardcoyote: So long as it's sustainably harvested (from stormwood, let's say), I don't see the problem.

Link | Posted on Mar 28, 2017 at 09:37 UTC
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