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Thoughts R Us: Hugh Brownstone, the guy from Three Blind Men and an Elephant, raised an interesting point: he can't recall when there was this big of a gap between Sony announcing a camera and it actually shipping (from 1 to 2 quarters). Why? (Keep in mind that Hugh generally praised the camera and is generally very kind to Sony products.)
Some possible reasons:
1) Maybe to be first before a competitor product? Or to get in front of a competitor product that is coming that has other stand out features?
2) To allow time to accrue as many preorders as possible before production units ship?
3) Given the cost of the global sensor, maybe to gauge volume of business before committing to manufacturing a certain quantity?
“I can see it now. Sony promoters will sharply criticize any camera announced without GS by competitors...until Sony announces A1 Mark II with stacked but not GS.”
Ironic how you are hypocritical in your own posts lol
Thoughts R Us: Hugh Brownstone, the guy from Three Blind Men and an Elephant, raised an interesting point: he can't recall when there was this big of a gap between Sony announcing a camera and it actually shipping (from 1 to 2 quarters). Why? (Keep in mind that Hugh generally praised the camera and is generally very kind to Sony products.)
Some possible reasons:
1) Maybe to be first before a competitor product? Or to get in front of a competitor product that is coming that has other stand out features?
2) To allow time to accrue as many preorders as possible before production units ship?
3) Given the cost of the global sensor, maybe to gauge volume of business before committing to manufacturing a certain quantity?
We all know why you wrote that and you aren’t fooling anyone. Even non-Sony users have noticed your faint praises, repeating the same points and posting in bad-faith. I haven’t noticed these fascinating questions when non-Sony cameras deviates from their normal operating procedures.
Thoughts R Us: Hugh Brownstone, the guy from Three Blind Men and an Elephant, raised an interesting point: he can't recall when there was this big of a gap between Sony announcing a camera and it actually shipping (from 1 to 2 quarters). Why? (Keep in mind that Hugh generally praised the camera and is generally very kind to Sony products.)
Some possible reasons:
1) Maybe to be first before a competitor product? Or to get in front of a competitor product that is coming that has other stand out features?
2) To allow time to accrue as many preorders as possible before production units ship?
3) Given the cost of the global sensor, maybe to gauge volume of business before committing to manufacturing a certain quantity?
I see Mr. Anti-Sony brand ambassador is on a crusade to search for YouTubers and quote them to highlight the drawbacks of Sony but never quote the same people when they say the positives of Sony.
renault5: The lighting in the hall was so bright I hope they all wore sunblock - far out! Most sports , even pro level, are rarely this intensly lit.
I appreciate the step forward in FF tech but the move of base iso to 250 brings advantages to 1% of shots and disadvantage to 99% of shots. I guess the niche demographic will see an advantage but cashed up mums and dads need to baer in mind their offspring's sports are lit by the cheapest means possible and their daytime shots will have gra
in at base iso (perhaps they don't care anyway?
Definitely some advantage for fast moving video where noise is easily 'hidden'.
Anyway, we'll done Sony for getting this out there. I wonder if Canon's R1 will have a global shutter and whether rolling shutter can be tackled in processing somehow - especially if using pre-capture frames
“ they don’t do jack of all trades besides the A1”
Which he also rubbished because it had a Sony badge
Kandid: Point 6. 24MP is unacceptable in the light of the A1 and the Z9 - particularly at $6000. Pro sports photographers will clamour for the extra pixels from the super fast and excellent pair so where does 24MP fit in❓❓❓DOA❗️So proclaimed the brand disciples when presented with the R3 a year or two ago. If they are to avoid being hypocritical then I guess they all think that this new camera is a dud also - and for the same reasons……👎❓
“This is called hypocrisy. I obviously couldn’t care less what such people think however I am happy to point it out as a service to the community”
Cough, TRU, cough!
Beckler8: So it took 10 years to slowly figure out decades-old SLR type body was better? Because that's what a7/9 has slowly morphed into. (And still not even there.) Like the shutter release button angle. They actually mention that as more natural?! Wow, great innovation there that took 10 years. Then, quite some emphasis on ONE extra C5 button. Incredible innovation there, too. And why just one on the front, anyway? What, photographers couldn't remember one or two more buttons or dials? Sony is always technologically on top, across all their top products not just cameras. But their design/usability is ALWAYS garbage.
“ And yes it is funny to me that their bodies are morphing into larger ones…”
Of course you are posting in bad faith and you’re blind to how Canon morphed into smaller and lighter bodies
“I've always said that Sony is known for very advanced tech inside…”
No, you don’t. You have repeatedly stated that Sony wants to win in meaning less spec wars. Just look at your post about the EVF of Sony cameras
Thoughts R Us: Where are the tests from third parties? I wonder how long until some field testing results come out? Is the camera ready to be tested by third parties yet?
I guess no one got preannouncement copies this time. Is Sony still finalizing the software?
“Mike I never said that the camera was vaporware or that there’s anything wrong with dev announcements.”
Oh please!
Impulses: Well that was unexpected, at the rate that promises of a global shutter kept going (and at the rate that traditional scanning electronic shutter kept speeding up) I almost didn't think it'd ever happen... Seems like a well thought out implementation too, with a pre-buffer and boost mode to leverage it on the fly, all in a small body... Granted, for a price.
It's interesting to have this and the A1 at similar price points in the lineup serving different but similar use cases... I wonder if we'll start seeing stacked sensors migrate beyond those lines with the next generation (2 years away?) or whether there'll still be that separation between $5K-ish+ bodies and the A7/R lines. I hope if/when I ever upgrade my A7R IV it'll be for a faster sensor.
“The A1 just dropped in price to $5200 on Amazon”
Waiting for TRU to jump on here and say that Sony isn’t selling well and that’s why they had to decrease the price
FuhTeng: That's really neat. I'm looking forward to learning more about it but especially all of the fine print limitations Sonys always have. Like dropped fps or resolution or both in the EVF. Limited frame rates with certain lenses. Whatever frame repeat in the EVF feed that fakes continuous viewing.
“Like dropped fps or resolution or both in the EVF.”
Even at faster refresh rates with , the EVF still was higher than the competitor’s.
Oh wait! I thought one prolific Sony hater said that Sony doesn’t innovate!!
Double post
BackToNature1: Apparently in about 3 weeks, we might find out that the so called camera Wars, are truly heating up again.
“You said you were trying to be better.
You are failing.”
He never was. Look at his comment from a few days ago about the EVF about A1. He dings Sony because the EVF of the resolution of A1 drops at certain scenarios (even though the “lowest” resolution is still higher than the competitors products)
“While I think your point is a fair one it is hardly a major blip. There are others far worse out there….”
The problem is that he is the one who complains about anti-Canon (yes, I know he uses Nikon now) trolling while he is one of the biggest anti-Sony propagandist out there.
JO-films: This sounds a tad expensive for what it is. I don't know the current US price for the Sony 200-600mm, also f/6.3 at 600mm, but maybe less than $2k.
“And sure the Sony 200-600 is a nice consumer lens but it's not at this level”
What is a consumer lens? Previously you claimed you didn’t know the definition of consumer, prosumer and pro cameras/products
Vignes: Getting annoyed with Nikon’s treatment of Z8.. Nikon is not that keen on Z8 FW update. They quickly removed Nikon own message that Z8 will get Z9 V4 features. why wait for 2024... so that they can sell more Z9. I think Nikon is going differentiate Z9 with Firmware. Sony doesn't do this to protect their flagship cameras.
"Also we do know that some Sony users take "time off from their lives" to post criticism of Nikon and other non-Sony gear. Some even "take time off from their lives" to actually comb through other people's comment history to try to take something out of context and prove a silly "gotcha" point."
Or maybe, they (including me) have a good memory and know how the search function works.
What does it say about you? You actually go through the websites (like Sony Alpha Rumours, DPR Sony forums etc) of a brand that you literally hate.
"Until he said he doesn’t bring up Sony before others do."
Don't forget he is "trying to be better" and then went on troll mode again lol
Vignes: Getting annoyed with Nikon’s treatment of Z8.. Nikon is not that keen on Z8 FW update. They quickly removed Nikon own message that Z8 will get Z9 V4 features. why wait for 2024... so that they can sell more Z9. I think Nikon is going differentiate Z9 with Firmware. Sony doesn't do this to protect their flagship cameras.
“Read the people in this very discussion who own A1's and don't appreciate the Sony policy.”
So you’re saying actual Sony A1 users are taking time off from their lives to post about their displeasure about Sony cameras in a Nikon article? lol
Vignes: Getting annoyed with Nikon’s treatment of Z8.. Nikon is not that keen on Z8 FW update. They quickly removed Nikon own message that Z8 will get Z9 V4 features. why wait for 2024... so that they can sell more Z9. I think Nikon is going differentiate Z9 with Firmware. Sony doesn't do this to protect their flagship cameras.
“And I see that once again you prove PL's point, in that no Sony user dares criticize Sony”
Have done it plenty of times. Unlike you I don’t crap on Canon or Nikon in my posts. Let’s not forget recently how you were trolling in the comment sections of Sony A7C/R
toucan: Firmware updates are electronics, not building a land bridge across the Atlantic. Surely the Z9 and Z8 updates could be done simultaneously.
My bad, thought you were replying to Vignes
toucan: Firmware updates are electronics, not building a land bridge across the Atlantic. Surely the Z9 and Z8 updates could be done simultaneously.
Double post
toucan: Firmware updates are electronics, not building a land bridge across the Atlantic. Surely the Z9 and Z8 updates could be done simultaneously.
TRU wrote, “ Tell that to Sony…” Couldn’t resist bringing up Sony in a Nikon article!
“ Newton Bryce: False choice. The choice is not buying something "not up to the task" and waiting for software updates, or buying something that "fills our need…”
That’s not what the poster is talking about. The poster is saying that Nikon may have misled by stating that Z8 will get the same firmware updates as Z9.
EXkurogane: So many weak people complaining about weight
“So many weak people complaining about weight”
Or maybe people have different physique and different usage. Making photography accessible to more people (including disabled) isn’t a bad thing.