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This is great news! With these specs can be a single travel lens for some trips - currently I take Nikon 14-30mm f/4 S and 24-120mm f/4 S. Hopefully Nikon will make the next iteration of the 24-70mm f/4 S with these specs. Or even better if they introduce something like what the range Nikon had planned on their canceled DL P&S camera: 18-50mm. But maybe this is one Sony lens I can buy and use it via an adapter on my Z7 II for some travel.

Why is the Lensrentals rental data depressing for Nikon Z? It just means that Nikon Z users are not renting much - they either have bought the cameras/lenses they need or the cameras/lenses they want to try out are not available in a lot of quantities at Lensrentals as well (example - Nikon Z 800mm f/6.3 S and for a long time Z9).

Jeff 0000: don’t you think it is in the realms of possibility that a future Nikon designed 70-200 f4 S lens which has been specifically designed for the Z mount is better optically than a Tamron 70-180mm f/2.8 designed for all mounts but first on Sony? Why does Z 70-200mm f/4 S lens have to be optically inferior to the Tamron just because the Tamron bested the F-mount 70-200 f4 G lens which was introduced in 2012 (10 years ago)?

My point is that the physical area of the 2x crop of the main camera sensor may actually be larger than the whole 3x crop sensor because the main camera sensor seems to be significantly larger. The main camera sensor is 9.8x7.3mm while the 3x camera sensor is 4x3mm as per the tables in the article: https://www.dpreview.com/news/5473139871/apple-announces-the-iphone-14-pro-and-14-pro-max.

Interesting choices of equivalent focal lengths: 13mm, 24mm and 77mm. Not exactly 0.5x, 1x and 3x but close. For majority of people pics, 24mm will be too wide with distorted pics, while 77mm will be too narrow in tight places. For a phone, I probably like the distribution of 13mm, 26mm and 52mm on my iPhone 11 Pro Max.

But I actually wonder if the physical central area (for the digital 2x crop they are providing) on the main 24mm equivalent camera is actually larger than the 77mm camera. The main camera has a crop factor of ~3.5x, while the 3x tele camera has a crop factor of ~8.7x. So the 2x digital crop may be ~7x.

Neither do Sony cameras have all the Sony sensors ever introduced.

@wr_photo : yeah Tamron, whose business model is to make lenses for other mounts, doesn't want extra sales. Sales are so overrated ;)

Steve - I have been watching your videos last month or so. Really impressive videos with a lot of information about wildlife and telephoto lenses. In the past (around 10 years ago or so), I have seen you comment here on dpreview and hence I checked out your videos when I came across one of them around a month ago. Keep up the great work.

Yes, I did not include the 400mm PF. I have probably missed a rumor article for that lens.

Nikon seems to be targeting to have one of the best wildlife systems for international air travel or the advanced amateur on the market right now - with the 2 adapted PF lenses (300mm PF and 500mm PF) and now this 800mm PF and then probably later in the year matching the other brands 200-600mm. And of course a highly capable Z9. Then for the really well heeled folks there is also the 400mm f/2.8 S with the built-in 1.4x teleconverter which can double as a near 600mm f/4 lens with a twist of the teleconverter. Of course a 400mm f/2.8 is easier for air travel than a 600mm f/4.

Incompatibility with Windows is a non starter for me - otherwise I could have considered this. I have the 16 inch M1 Max Mac as my personal laptop / photo editing machine. But I also have a Windows laptop from my workplace that I currently connect to the same 32 inch monitor - on the same computer desk. So I will have to pass as adding another desk and another office room is not a very practical solution :)

James - as I said, I am satisfied (actually very happy) with the Nikon 14-30mm f/4 and the compromises/choices Nikon has chosen are probably the best compromises. Of course, with all things equal (which they are not), who will not want the extra 5mm at the longer end? :)

Impulses - you make good points.

I am satisfied with Nikon's corresponding version 14-30mm f/4 (as I hear it is slightly higher optical quality) but there are a couple of things I like with the Canon version:
1) It goes slightly longer to 35mm.
2) It has a matched filter size (77mm) with the 70-200mm f/4.

Still once Nikon introduces a Z 70-200mm f/4, I will be a happy camper - as it will serve as a good 3 lens f/4 set (14-30, 24-70 and 70-200).

Bravo Canon! As a Nikon user, it is good to see Canon will continue to push Nikon (and Sony, Panasonic and others). It is great for us consumers to have good choice. I particularly like what Canon has done making some of the common lenses very portable choices for the users - the 14-35mm f/4 L IS and 70-200mm f/4 L IS make a nice two lens travel set. As is the 70-200 f/2.8 RF a good step towards more portability.

Sky is falling for Nikon and Nikon photographers! Why do I care? Last time I checked Nikon was still introducing great lenses and great cameras. I sent my Z7 for maintenance a few weeks ago - and what a miracle it came back with the work done to my satisfaction. Remember, Nikon has not gone away despite all the reports of Nikon's impending demise last 5 years or so. I doubt that will happen in the next 5-10 years as well.

If Sony has good products or even gets market lead good for them. Competition is good for market and for us consumers. But neither Sony nor Canon are blowing my socks off with out of the world products. Of course neither is Nikon - all are introducing competent products within a hair of each other.

And having conclusion on market shares based on rental data is beyond ridiculous (6% similar to Panasonic). Maybe Nikon owners rent less frequently because Nikon has initially targeted more common ownable lenses/cameras for the Z system - than exotic ones that one rents.

Yeah - sky is falling!

Yes bluevellet - this problem is probably not unique to Nikon cameras (and probably all mirrorless cameras have this problem). But I definitely have this problem with my Z6 & Z7 as well. Perhaps all mirrorless cameras need a sensor shield like the Z9.

If you are a photo journalist, maybe you see that you are going to get confronted by some military regime and you want to quickly delete the most offensive picture? The delete button has it's uses.

You should have considered RRS TFC-34 (fixed apex) instead of TVC-34 (versa apex). Stability wise it is the same but it is lighter (1746g vs 1928g) and packs smaller - at the cost of not being able to have a leveling base. In fact the TVC-34 can be converted to TFC-34 with a conversion kit.

oivecrp2>> but compared to what is out there, Nikon just isn't there yet, not to mention, neither the Z6II nor the Z7II are readily available. So I moved over to the R5
oivecrp2>> but as I get older and have poorer eyesight and become more shaky, IBIS and focusing become important.

Out of curiosity, what is it that you were really missing from Z6 II or Z7 II? You mention focusing is important - what are you into that the Z6 II or Z7 II cannot focus? Sports photography? Not trolling you - just genuinely curious. For me as I get older - the following you mention actually are more important to me (most cameras are fairly competent these days):

oivecrp2>>although I do think the Nikon Menus and ergonomics are much better