Photato

Photato

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Another boring 4:3 sensor...
A tiny sensor like this only use 60% of the Smartphone lens image circle.
Shoot HD or UDH video and that leave us with a pathetic 45% IC utilization because is in turn a crop from this fixed 4:3 sensor.

Benefits of full image circle coverage.
Loss free Multi Aspect ratio pictures for better compositions.
Wider horizontal angles of view for 3:2 and 16:9 or verticals shots.
Lossless Roll correction for still and video (AKA leveled horizons).
Better Panorama stitching.
More convenient, simpler and easier mounting options for phone tripods, gimbals (2 axis only) , etc.
Reduction of people inadvertently shooting vertical videos.
Capture much wider views when the raw image circle is left uncropped.

Link | Posted on Oct 31, 2018 at 04:25 UTC as 18th comment | 3 replies
On article DPReview TV: Panasonic LX100 II review (176 comments in total)
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Photato: The dust issue with the LX100 has more to do with the zoom lens excessive extension/retraction cycles (a simple firmware issue) rather than the lack of weather sealing which makes it even more irritating,
Roger Cicala from Lensrentals wrote a good piece about this fact of life about ANY zoom lens.
However, Panasonic seem to be aloof and never paid attention to this important detail, despite numerous users complaints. For instance, the LX100 even extend the lens when the user only wants to play some pictures.
On top of that when in shooting mode the inactivity timer is so short causing the lens to retract prematurely, having the user to initiate another lens extension and there is no way for the user to change this.
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/08/the-apocalypse-of-lens-dust/

That is why I said “The dust issue with the LX100 has more to do with the zoom lens excessive extension/retraction cycles”
Of all the motorized zoom cameras I ve had the LX100 is the one with more frequent lens extensions. You have yo use one to see how irritating this.

Link | Posted on Oct 30, 2018 at 01:22 UTC
On article DPReview TV: Panasonic LX100 II review (176 comments in total)

While I understand Panasonic wanting to do a minor cost savings upgrade to the LX100 in regards to hardware, it is a shame that they fell short of what could have been with simple, low cost, firmware enhancements.
Since this is a camera for Creative / Enthusiast / Pro, it would have been interesting to let users access the extended captured image (no crops) to allow more cropping flexibility in post including room for roll correction or show whole capture with rounded corners. It is disappointing that after 3 years asking for it, users have no way to deactivate the automatic lens correction even in Raw.
Given that the 4K is a severe crop, that would bring the opportunity to offer automatic roll correction (leveling) but nope.
Other possible features like Step-less Aperture control, Programmable Pull Focus like the GM5, Programmable Zoom for Video and Time Lapse, Bluetooth Microphone, etc
I'd expect all these after a 4 years wait and that price tag!

Link | Posted on Oct 28, 2018 at 03:06 UTC as 30th comment
On article DPReview TV: Panasonic LX100 II review (176 comments in total)

The dust issue with the LX100 has more to do with the zoom lens excessive extension/retraction cycles (a simple firmware issue) rather than the lack of weather sealing which makes it even more irritating,
Roger Cicala from Lensrentals wrote a good piece about this fact of life about ANY zoom lens.
However, Panasonic seem to be aloof and never paid attention to this important detail, despite numerous users complaints. For instance, the LX100 even extend the lens when the user only wants to play some pictures.
On top of that when in shooting mode the inactivity timer is so short causing the lens to retract prematurely, having the user to initiate another lens extension and there is no way for the user to change this.
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2011/08/the-apocalypse-of-lens-dust/

Link | Posted on Oct 28, 2018 at 02:36 UTC as 32nd comment | 3 replies
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Photato: Looks like Xiaomi is using the same 1.4µm Sony sensor than latest Apple iPhones.
Wonder if this phone also has the new Broadcom geolocation chip as their Mi 8 (not yet on iPhones), which is a breakthrough in accuracy by using the higher resolution Galileo constellation.

As I said, it is already implemented and functioning in the Xiaomi M8 using a Broadcom chip.

Link | Posted on Oct 27, 2018 at 15:54 UTC

Looks like Xiaomi is using the same 1.4µm Sony sensor than latest Apple iPhones.
Wonder if this phone also has the new Broadcom geolocation chip as their Mi 8 (not yet on iPhones), which is a breakthrough in accuracy by using the higher resolution Galileo constellation.

Link | Posted on Oct 26, 2018 at 09:52 UTC as 9th comment | 3 replies
On article The future of photography is code (110 comments in total)
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Photato: The article failed to mention one aspect yet not exploited by any camera, which is full image circle coverage. (Currently about 40% of the lens image circle is wasted by using an inscribed rectangle sensor, a baggage from the film days)
This full image circle coverage would allow wider or taller shots, more pixels for Instagram 1:1 pictures, automatic roll correction for still, video and burst, better composition crops no longer limited to a fixed 4:3 ratio, help to reduce the amount of people shooting those pesky vertical videos, etc.
This is an aspect for which Smartphones have the advantage given their sensor size since it is more difficult and expensive to cover the image circle with larger formats in conventional cameras.

This will inevitable happen, is just a matter of time.

Brent, more likely is going to be 1:1 Square or Hexagonal sensors for production efficiencies.
You could argue the other way around and ask why we have lenses too large that are always using a fraction of usable image circle.
With prices coming down in image sensors, a 2/3" equivalent sized sensor in area would be big enough to cover an iPhone XS lens image circle without adding size.
I believe some 360 VR cameras already are using all their image circle in combination with a fish eye lens to produce Hemispherical images.
BTW, the photo in this article would have been much better composition wise with a 16:9 aspect ratio IMO.
A FHD Video from the Google Pixel or iPhone goes to waste even further since itself is a crop from the native 4:3 sensor, at this point we are talking about around 68% waste of image circle !

Link | Posted on Oct 24, 2018 at 17:51 UTC
On article The future of photography is code (110 comments in total)

The article failed to mention one aspect yet not exploited by any camera, which is full image circle coverage. (Currently about 40% of the lens image circle is wasted by using an inscribed rectangle sensor, a baggage from the film days)
This full image circle coverage would allow wider or taller shots, more pixels for Instagram 1:1 pictures, automatic roll correction for still, video and burst, better composition crops no longer limited to a fixed 4:3 ratio, help to reduce the amount of people shooting those pesky vertical videos, etc.
This is an aspect for which Smartphones have the advantage given their sensor size since it is more difficult and expensive to cover the image circle with larger formats in conventional cameras.

This will inevitable happen, is just a matter of time.

Link | Posted on Oct 24, 2018 at 12:39 UTC as 40th comment | 5 replies

The agenda was clear.
The test result was released about a week before the passage of major legislation on UAVs in the US.

Link | Posted on Oct 22, 2018 at 19:20 UTC as 70th comment

Now DJI is asking to withdraw this misleading, sensationalistic test.

https://dronedj.com/2018/10/20/dji-demands-withdrawal-drone-video/

Link | Posted on Oct 21, 2018 at 14:15 UTC as 5th comment
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MikeStern: Enough of that google. Just put 2 more lenses on the phone. Tele also ultra wide. In fact put one more in front for wider group selfies. Then put this pixel shift super res thingy on every camera. Since it’s not a hardware requiring future. Then come back to me. We see what we can do with you. Don’t wanna loose all the money to Sony? Sorry no way out on that sensor dependency.

The front ultrawide camera is retarded.
They could have achieved similar wide angle with the a single front camera but using a bigger sensor for multi aspect ratio at 16:9. (They are still stuck with 4:3 currently *rolling eyes*)
But If it had to have a second camera I would have gone more aggressive and added instead a fish eye lens with a bigger sensor to provide 100% image circle coverage to be able to offer some of the incredible features of cameras like the Insta360 minus photo spheres.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2018 at 10:16 UTC

Looks good but a shame they didn't bother to implement automatic 360 Roll correction with that Digital Zoom.

Does this new Pixel Camera comes with the more efficient HEVC or HEIF video and picture encoders? The Official Spec sheet doesn't say.

Link | Posted on Oct 18, 2018 at 10:04 UTC as 11th comment

I can't wait to finally leave Canon and move to the killer L mount.
Can't go wrong with Panasonic ingenuity, Leica superb quality, Sigma's excellent value with native lens support and Foveon.

Link | Posted on Oct 15, 2018 at 10:22 UTC as 43rd comment | 2 replies
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Photato: Interesting how they have tried to get the most of the tiny camera using software.
The final verdict though is if they have managed to match or surpass the real zoom lens of the iPhone XS and others. Depth map accuracy, oversampling by dual sensor fusion, etc
Most of those Google Pixel tricks rely on multiple shots which limit its application to static subjects.

I’m wondering how long do we have to wait until these Smartphones start using oversized sensors to capture 100% of the image circle, this opens a lot of new posibilities including care free leveling and wider views that could save them that extra selfie wide lens.

Those features are nice to have but as they said, have their limitations, mostly because involves multiple shots.

You don't need to increase the phone size with a bigger sensor intended to capture 100% of the image circle, the lens stay the same size.
Currently, almost all cameras waste more than 40% of the image circle to a inscribed rectangular sensor, a habit inherited from the film days and needs yet to be tackle. I think we would see this first on Smartphones given the lower cost of increasing sensor size compared to dedicated cameras.

With a sensor like that you can shot really fast bypassing the leveling and precise framing with the camera. hold the phone any conformable position the shots would always be leveled and that includes video as well.
Any aspect ratio you pick would maximize the field of view allowed by the lens, and fit a better composition for any given subject.

Link | Posted on Oct 11, 2018 at 20:33 UTC
On article Insta 360 launches ONE X 360-degree 5.7K action camera (62 comments in total)

Lots of bang for the buck here !
I rather spend my money on this than another expensive and boring lens.

Link | Posted on Oct 11, 2018 at 19:04 UTC as 5th comment
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teddoman: Merged low-noise DNG files + JPEG? Sounds awesome.

teddoman, if the subject moves significantly, there is no god or google algorithm that can align the multiple shots without artifacts. The golden standard is to capture a HDR in one shot.

Link | Posted on Oct 11, 2018 at 18:59 UTC
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teddoman: Merged low-noise DNG files + JPEG? Sounds awesome.

This is nothing new my 3 year old Phantom 3A drone does that what they call HDR Raw. They just merge the raw data of several shots to increase DR and reduce noise. It is limited by subject or camra motion though.

Link | Posted on Oct 11, 2018 at 18:10 UTC

Interesting how they have tried to get the most of the tiny camera using software.
The final verdict though is if they have managed to match or surpass the real zoom lens of the iPhone XS and others. Depth map accuracy, oversampling by dual sensor fusion, etc
Most of those Google Pixel tricks rely on multiple shots which limit its application to static subjects.

I’m wondering how long do we have to wait until these Smartphones start using oversized sensors to capture 100% of the image circle, this opens a lot of new posibilities including care free leveling and wider views that could save them that extra selfie wide lens.

Link | Posted on Oct 11, 2018 at 18:03 UTC as 29th comment | 3 replies
On article Panasonic Lumix LX100 II sample gallery (250 comments in total)

It looks like these shots are a tad better than the original LX100 perhaps due to the improved JPEG engine and newer sensor. However, for video is not the same story since the limiting narrower field of view for Capturing 4K.
Pany needed to compensate with more goodies to make this camera more appealing to current LX100 users.
I bet Pany didn't even bother with easy firmware improvements like reducing the Lens extension frequency in order to minimize dust intrusion.
I bet, the user, can't still take full advantage of oversized sensor by cropping post capture the desired aspect ratio.
I bet Pany still not letting users access to the uncorrected capture in order to gain a wider field of view.
Has the OIS improved for Video? because it was mostly ineffective in the original LX100.
As an LX100 user for 2 years, I don't think this camera offer enough improvements and excitement, to qualify as an "upgrade" It feels more like a side-grade at a higher cost.

Link | Posted on Oct 10, 2018 at 20:03 UTC as 25th comment
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filmpoet: Let me guess... it’s gonna be a lot of commenters who think they’re smarter than the institute doing the research.Smh!

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Link | Posted on Oct 10, 2018 at 14:44 UTC
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