Photato

Photato

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On article Throwback Thursday: Canon PowerShot Pro70 (111 comments in total)

This camera was ahead of its time and Canon at its best. Featuring all the basic components of a contemporary Digital Camera.
Back then it was rare to see that articulated screen in other cameras or Raw.
This model was further refined with the also excellent Pro90 and it peaked with the Canon Pro1 which I owned and really loved.

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2016 at 22:31 UTC as 50th comment

meh
Except for the DPAF, the feature set is not enough to make me sidegrade from the M+ML to M5. In the mean time my 4K video needs are now being covered by Panasonic.
Will UPGRADE when/if Canon releases a M body with substantial better features.
Disappointed that they didn't release a fast prime.

Link | Posted on Sep 15, 2016 at 10:10 UTC as 173rd comment | 1 reply
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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Photato: Can someone explain what is the logic behind not offering UHD ?
Having to crop gigabytes worth of 17:9 data all the time doesn't seem like fun or an efficient way of making videos.

CIASpook, Canon knows how to make a proper video camera. Take a look at the XC10. It uses the proper codec h.264 MXF, the proper media CFast and UHD.
DCI 4K is just a few more pixels on the horizontal direction that will have to be cropped away all the time when delivering for 97% of displays out there. This is really irritating and a waste of storage, CPU and time.

Link | Posted on Aug 29, 2016 at 19:15 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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Photato: Can someone explain what is the logic behind not offering UHD ?
Having to crop gigabytes worth of 17:9 data all the time doesn't seem like fun or an efficient way of making videos.

CIASpook, on a UHD TV screen you would get two horizontal black bars Top and Bottom (aka letterbox). It wouldn't be any wider or sharper.
If you like wide shots, you need wide angle lenses.
Or project your 2.43:1 video on movie theater.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 18:44 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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Photato: Can someone explain what is the logic behind not offering UHD ?
Having to crop gigabytes worth of 17:9 data all the time doesn't seem like fun or an efficient way of making videos.

UHD is missing, that is what is wrong.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 17:01 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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Photato: Can someone explain what is the logic behind not offering UHD ?
Having to crop gigabytes worth of 17:9 data all the time doesn't seem like fun or an efficient way of making videos.

4K = 4096 x 2160 17:9
UHD = 3840 x 2160 16:9 (What 90% of users actually need)

If you need more information.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174221-no-tv-makers-4k-and-uhd-are-not-the-same-thing

I will be waiting patiently for your link to TV sets, YT videos, Computers or Smartphones with a 17:9 AR display. Thanks :-)

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 16:52 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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PropaPH: some other blogs etc are saying the crop factor for video is 1.74 and not 1.64x crop you guys state.... what could explain the difference?

If you want a number to calculate equivalent field of view the standard is to measure it by the Diagonal.
So here are the numbers that matter:
For 16:9 is 1.832955061280073
For 17:9 is 1.743899805657525
Thus, for a UHD field of view equivalent to 28mm you would need a 15mm lens.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 16:40 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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ProGlass: Folks, what is the ONE pet peeve about the new 5D Mark 4 that really irks you? There are a lot of haters and a lot of lovers here. I'm a canon owner and was really looking forward to this model but I won't hide the fact that I am disappointed in this one.

No UHD is borderline unethical, especially when Canon says "In developing this new DSLR camera, we listened to the requests of current EOS users..."
I have a hard time imagining "EOS users" asking for 17:9 video. When people ask for 4K what they really mean is UHD, small but important difference.
Canon knows this and that is the unethical part, IMO.
But hey, it is what it is, take it or leave it. Business as usual.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 14:28 UTC
On article Throwback Thursday: Canon EOS 5D (224 comments in total)
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Photato: The sensor might be showing its age but the larger full frame still shows its superiority in terms of contrast due to less diffraction when compared to smaller sensors.

Go to the Studio Test Scene of this article and compare the 5D with a modern but smaller sensor camera like the Sony RX100 IV. Look for the high contrast areas at low ISO. That is diffraction in action. Feel free to compare other cameras with smaller sensors, same thing.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 13:59 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)

Can someone explain what is the logic behind not offering UHD ?
Having to crop gigabytes worth of 17:9 data all the time doesn't seem like fun or an efficient way of making videos.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 13:53 UTC as 283rd comment | 12 replies
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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steve ohlhaber: 1.64x crop for 4k video????? you have to be kidding. What is the point. If you are into video - buy an APSC 4k camera and save some money.

To be fair, the Crop factor is mostly a real hardware limitation , but there are so many other essential tools for video that are intentionally absent that render the IV less desirable for video compared to other options like Sony or Pany.
For people invested in the Canon ecosystem who were expecting several years for a more complete video tool without gimmicks and gotchas this is sort of a disappointment and frustration with the brand. However the reality is that this is more about business than passion for the craft. It is what it is, take it or leave it.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 05:58 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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steve ohlhaber: 1.64x crop for 4k video????? you have to be kidding. What is the point. If you are into video - buy an APSC 4k camera and save some money.

Canon positions the 5D IV as a FF Still camera first and the video is a secondary feature.
It is obvious that the implementation impose arbitrary hurdles and gotchas, like the M-JPEG encoding, the 17:9 format, the 1.7X crop and who knows else to segregate this camera from the Cinema Professional line.
Weather this business strategy pays off remains to be seen but they are also alienating some of the customers in the process, specially those unaware of these pitfalls and also those aware of how better it could have been.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 01:41 UTC
On article Throwback Thursday: Canon EOS 5D (224 comments in total)

The sensor might be showing its age but the larger full frame still shows its superiority in terms of contrast due to less diffraction when compared to smaller sensors.

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 01:17 UTC as 88th comment | 2 replies
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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PropaPH: some other blogs etc are saying the crop factor for video is 1.74 and not 1.64x crop you guys state.... what could explain the difference?

In practice, the crop factor is more like 2X (same as m4/3) considering that you have to crop the 17:9 video down to 16:9

Link | Posted on Aug 26, 2016 at 00:56 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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toolan: 4k is stupid right now. Not a lot of content for 1 plus the price, how many middle and low class can afford 4k? I know I can't and neither can most of my friends and family. People still buy DVDs over Bluray in 2016

True for content consumption but is different when you are in media production.
You need 4K because most consumer 1080P video tools are compressed at 4:2:0 which is alright as a final delivery format but not for quality acquisition.
With 4K you can also Zoom and Pan when delivering for FHD.
Then there is also the bonus of using 4K video as a fast 30fps burst still mode without moving the shutter.

Link | Posted on Aug 25, 2016 at 23:08 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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MarshallG: Is it true that it supports 4K only at 4096x2160 and not 3840x 2160? Because 4KTV uses 3840, so video from this camera would need to be cropped or scaled for TV playback.

Are you guys sure there's no 3840x2160 mode?

Yes, only 17:9 with a 1.7 X crop, then crop some more to get 16:9 and then the M-JPEG unreal storage demands.
This is Canon calculated and deliberated move to protect their professional dedicated video line. Pure Genius !
You still can do your 4K but not without pain.

Link | Posted on Aug 25, 2016 at 22:41 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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Photato: This is what happens when you have a captive market.
After all the grumble, Canon knows that the path of least resistance for their customers is to simply upgrade to this new body or get more lenses. Either way, Canon wins.
By providing a very limited and calculated 4K functionality they can claim the 4K Headline for marketing purposes while protecting the Professional Video line and securing 4 more years of profits.
No doubt the features that they decide to include here are not driven by customer demand but part of long term strategy with the goal of securing sales while protecting long term interests in their camera & video business.
We will see in the next year or two how these decisions work out for them.
Personally, it has made me lose trust and respect for the brand since I can't count on them to deliver products that satisfy my needs, like Canon once did.
Fortunately there are other brands that seem to be taking opportunity at this and so did I.

"pretending to know what the folks at Canon are thinking"
You don't have to be a genius or an insider to know that Canon holds regular meetings about how to increase profits and sales.
The way they have tip toed around Video for DSLRs makes their strategy self evident.

Link | Posted on Aug 25, 2016 at 21:58 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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Photato: This is what happens when you have a captive market.
After all the grumble, Canon knows that the path of least resistance for their customers is to simply upgrade to this new body or get more lenses. Either way, Canon wins.
By providing a very limited and calculated 4K functionality they can claim the 4K Headline for marketing purposes while protecting the Professional Video line and securing 4 more years of profits.
No doubt the features that they decide to include here are not driven by customer demand but part of long term strategy with the goal of securing sales while protecting long term interests in their camera & video business.
We will see in the next year or two how these decisions work out for them.
Personally, it has made me lose trust and respect for the brand since I can't count on them to deliver products that satisfy my needs, like Canon once did.
Fortunately there are other brands that seem to be taking opportunity at this and so did I.

Hey, I am not passing a moral judgement here since these are just business decisions, like any other profitable and sustainable business should do.
My only gripe against Canon is that lately they are pulling too much to their side of the business, leaving customer unsatisfied. However the bottom line is profits and if they manage to keep sales growing, then they are right and I am wrong.
However this strategy is not working for me, since they are not building what I want.

Link | Posted on Aug 25, 2016 at 21:43 UTC
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)

This is what happens when you have a captive market.
After all the grumble, Canon knows that the path of least resistance for their customers is to simply upgrade to this new body or get more lenses. Either way, Canon wins.
By providing a very limited and calculated 4K functionality they can claim the 4K Headline for marketing purposes while protecting the Professional Video line and securing 4 more years of profits.
No doubt the features that they decide to include here are not driven by customer demand but part of long term strategy with the goal of securing sales while protecting long term interests in their camera & video business.
We will see in the next year or two how these decisions work out for them.
Personally, it has made me lose trust and respect for the brand since I can't count on them to deliver products that satisfy my needs, like Canon once did.
Fortunately there are other brands that seem to be taking opportunity at this and so did I.

Link | Posted on Aug 25, 2016 at 21:05 UTC as 323rd comment | 8 replies
On article Striding Forth: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Review (2080 comments in total)
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Photato: I can almost guarantee you that the M-JPEG CODEC is 4:1:1 Resulting in the color information being decimated to 1/4 of the Luma resolution.

Most in-camera still JPEGs are 4:2:2, but M-JPEG has traditionally been made using 4:1:1 sub-sampling. What that means is that 4:1:1 JPEGs contain half the Chroma(color) information than a regural JPEG.
This difference would be noticeable in a 4K Still-Video from the Studio Scene, if DPR ever bother to post one.

Link | Posted on Aug 25, 2016 at 20:21 UTC
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