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beowolf77: Those Lubitel cameras were pretty good and more much better featuring the same (?) glass. At once, Smena-2 post war plastic could give rather fun images in color. Dead end branch.
Smena 8 / 8M was still the most manufactured camera.
I had two of them first from 70s and 80s
Worked very well and the lens of the one them was very, very sharp.
KubeKube: A story from 1981. During the first Everest ascent by Bulgarian climbers, they took with them several ‘Smena-8’ having prior to the climb removed with alcohol all lubricant (if any) from their moving parts. Thus, they were able to snatch gorgeous color photographs of their ascent with the ‘Smena-8’. The lubricant of the only ‘Leica’ they also had at their disposal, froze at high altitude and the camera was inoperable.
BTW. Since 1953....
It´s a woderful camera and if you`re lucky it might turn out be a fantastic camera.
Anyway, many camera manufacturers should have "steal" some ideas from that supersimple camera...
Rob890: are there any plans for SIgma to drop another fixed foveon camera? It would crazy if they did a fixed compact full frame verison....wow
I know very Well what I can create from RAW-files, but Leica Q can procduce b&w files I like very much. I still get Raw-files too.
Leica Q was so good (especially b&w) my vote goes to Leica Q2.
peterh337: What annoys me is why all these phones are so damn huge.
I used to have the Nokia 808 - whose 40MP camera, downsampling to superb ~12MByte jpegs, has probably not yet been matched by any phone. I had to give it up because no Symbian browser was usable on certain websites which I have to use for work...
Then I went to the Samsung route and now have the S7, shooting RAW always. It is pretty good.
Looking at these better camera phones, starting with the P20 Pro, they have all grown, to the point where they barely fit into any "pocket".
This teardown doesn't indicate why the phone has to be so tall.
Do people really want the huge screens?
I used my Nokia 808 over 6 years until I dropped it into a lake. It didn't like swimming...
Now I have Huawei P20PRO and many cases it is better than 808 except utmost corners which definitely are the weak points in P20 PRO. But I must say that the "night" mode is outstanding and very useful. And one can`t underestimate .dng -raw files.
Kivivuori: Phones are "too" good.
I`ve been taking photographs since 1969 with > 200 different camera models, working as a pro, teaching photography and image processing. I satrted with Photoshop 1 (1990) but I also still use black & white...
When Nokia 808 was introduced back in 2012, it showed the way to the future & what will happen years to come. I admit that it took more time than I thought...
After using Huawei P20 PRO with dng-files I have no reason to believe the fact that finest phones will affect strongly sales activity of digital compacts and cheaper DSLR models.
BR
Esa Kivivuori
photographer ARPS
Finland
Phones are "too" good.
How about better photos instead of "better" lenses? ;)
After 8 diifferent film Leica M cameras ( and some experience with M8, M9 and Monochrome) during 46 years I agree with the author.
To me, the LEICA M10-D is a really good idea. And I can`t think any other company to produce that kind of a high-end product.
Esa Kivivuori
Finland
Sometimes I DO wonder DXOMark Mobile scores....
F.....g idiots spoiling a historical name :(
Well done, Zion Nation Park !
Why? What`s the point?
Kivivuori: I´m still hoping that one of the manufactures of high end phones will finally come to market with a phone with 35 mm equivalent lens and a 1/1.2" 24-28 MB sensor.
Esa Kivivuori
Finland
Chrisno" Weel, it`s not so bulky. and it works.
See: "(....) The Nokia 808 features a 41 megapixel 1/1.2 in (10.67 × 8 mm) sensor and a high-resolution f/2.4 Zeiss all-aspherical lens (5 x double sided aspherical lenses in1 group).
This is the real thing:
https://www.wired.com/2014/07/logmar-super-8/
Paul Reading: I don't remember film being that bad!
What IS "bad" ?
Not film anyway. Maybe people who misuse it.
I´m still hoping that one of the manufactures of high end phones will finally come to market with a phone with 35 mm equivalent lens and a 1/1.2" 24-28 MB sensor.
Esa Kivivuori
Finland
So what? :(
Ho folks
Do you really take this camera seriously? ;)