Wow

I love it, but how does one manually focus? I know there is the rare chance that my PEN won't pick the right thing to focus on, no matter how hard I try, so I have to manually focus. If I can manually focus, I'll buy one. Maybe two, just in case if the motor breaks.
I thought I saw a second switch/lever control below the one for focal length adjustment. The lower one could be for manual focus...unless it's an on/off switch for OIS. Although considering this lens has no hood or filter threads, I doubt they'd bother putting an OIS switch on it when OIS can be already be turned on/off in-camera.

larsbc
 
It's a good point, how many zoom lens' do we need that start at 14mm?
Just this one, by the looks of it.
If they had made it a 12-35mm, I bet they'd actually have a lot more people ready to buy one just for the extra width!
Really? I have a feeling the people they are planning on selling this too (ie the people who have so far refused to move from P&S because of camera size) don't care either way. This is a new kit lens, and clearly the kit lens "to rule them all." There is nothing preventing Oly/Panny from producing premium - power zoom or not - 12-35 lenses in the future. Right now Panasonic is wisely concerned with expanding market-share, grabbing as many sales possible while they still can (NEX now looks ridiculously over-built in comparison, and Canon and Nikon have the bar set incredibly high). The bigger the user base, the larger the initial splash when a new (high end) lens is eventually released.

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I think point the focus area using the touchscreen can replace manual focus for a lens like this.
 
I love it, but how does one manually focus? I know there is the rare chance that my PEN won't pick the right thing to focus on, no matter how hard I try, so I have to manually focus. If I can manually focus, I'll buy one. Maybe two, just in case if the motor breaks.
I thought I saw a second switch/lever control below the one for focal length adjustment. The lower one could be for manual focus...unless it's an on/off switch for OIS. Although considering this lens has no hood or filter threads, I doubt they'd bother putting an OIS switch on it when OIS can be already be turned on/off in-camera.

larsbc
True, but Oly uses might want to use OIS vs th IBIS instead.

I thought I saw 37mm for filter thread on it? Hrm...
 
It's a good point, how many zoom lens' do we need that start at 14mm?
well, since they Ditched the 14-45, One GOOD one would be a great start for Pansonic !!, at the moment they don't have a decent standard zoom .
I've owned both the 14-45mm and the 14-42mm. The 14-42mm is perfectly "decent", albeit unspectacular. It gets the job done, and I certainly don't spend my time wishing I had the 14-45mm instead.

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It's a good point, how many zoom lens' do we need that start at 14mm?
Just this one, by the looks of it.
If they had made it a 12-35mm, I bet they'd actually have a lot more people ready to buy one just for the extra width!
Really? I have a feeling the people they are planning on selling this too (ie the people who have so far refused to move from P&S because of camera size) don't care either way. This is a new kit lens, and clearly the kit lens "to rule them all." There is nothing preventing Oly/Panny from producing premium - power zoom or not - 12-35 lenses in the future. Right now Panasonic is wisely concerned with expanding market-share, grabbing as many sales possible while they still can (NEX now looks ridiculously over-built in comparison, and Canon and Nikon have the bar set incredibly high). The bigger the user base, the larger the initial splash when a new (high end) lens is eventually released.
I think wider is also mass marketable, look at all the point and shoots new a days with 25mm or 24mm starting point, not just premium models but lower end models. Mass public i think is open to having a wider zoom lens. The way I look at it, if it works for mass market, and also makes enthusiasts buy in as well (the 12-60 was much more popular than the 14-54 becuase it was just that bit wider, even if it was dimmer at the telephoto end).

I do admit that limiting to 35mm at the "telephoto" end may be a tough sell for the mass market...

Either way, i'm happy that Panasonic is pushing the boundaries of what we thought was possible with the larger than compact sensor size. kudos!

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I've yet to see such a dramatic design feat that doesn't come at the expense of optical quality. I suspect that after the digital makeover, this lens will deliver softness along with its slow aperture range.

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Things are small enough for me now. I would settle for the kit lens to keep improving glass wise. I get prime having a good prime lens but I'm not a lens snob either. I like the Oly 14-42. I'm tired of reading things like "it is good for... a kit lens".
 
Another thing is how all this power zooming will affect an already not so good battery life.
 
This is an incredibly exciting product. I would seriously consider buying this lens if it will work on the E-PL2. And if it doesn't, I would consider switching to Panasonic.
 
I have an E-PL2 as well and I am thinking the same exact thing.

This almost seems too good to be true. Compact lenses=Mass market appeal
 
I love it, but how does one manually focus?
Many years ago Minolta had a range of power zoom lenses (I still have one somewhere around the house) called xi lenses. There was a single spring loaded ring encircling the lens which, in its normal position, acted as the the power zoom ring, but when pulled back toward the camera body slightly and rotated would act as a manual focus ring of sorts. I absolutely hated it. Panasonic could implement a similar design... though hopefully make it less unpleasant to use
 
Sam,

Do you currently own either of those lenses? I think the idea of the collapsible zoom lens is great. I even thought about getting the new X lenses for about a millisecond. Then I remembered that it is still the same lens that I found to be useless indoors and hence had to sell it.

I am sure that these x-lenses will be excellent for outdoor pictures and videos. However, that is what I have the 14-140mm for. I would rather have a single slightly larger zoom lens than two slightly smaller lenses. I bet the two lenses will cost more than the 14-140mm as well.

What I am really excited about are the fast prime lenses. The 25mm and 40mm look to be as good if not better than the 20mm. If only my pre-orders would ever ship.
It's a good point, how many zoom lens' do we need that start at 14mm?
well, since they Ditched the 14-45, One GOOD one would be a great start for Pansonic !!, at the moment they don't have a decent standard zoom .
I've owned both the 14-45mm and the 14-42mm. The 14-42mm is perfectly "decent", albeit unspectacular. It gets the job done, and I certainly don't spend my time wishing I had the 14-45mm instead.

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Sam,

Do you currently own either of those lenses?
Yes, I still have the 14-42mm that came with my first GF2.
I think the idea of the collapsible zoom lens is great. I even thought about getting the new X lenses for about a millisecond. Then I remembered that it is still the same lens that I found to be useless indoors and hence had to sell it.
Yeah, it's really not giving you anything the current kit lenses give you besides compactness. Kind of a bummer, but I think if Panasonic can make it the standard kit zoom eventually, it's an extremely good move on their part.
I am sure that these x-lenses will be excellent for outdoor pictures and videos. However, that is what I have the 14-140mm for. I would rather have a single slightly larger zoom lens than two slightly smaller lenses. I bet the two lenses will cost more than the 14-140mm as well.
Well, you know me. Size matters. I've been doing a lot of bike riding these days and when I'm on my fixed gear (ie, going fast ) I don't like having the 14-42mm with me because it's too bulky. But carrying just the 14mm or the 20mm is kind of a bummer as well. This new lens would be perfect for me. The range is fine for what I need.
What I am really excited about are the fast prime lenses. The 25mm and 40mm look to be as good if not better than the 20mm. If only my pre-orders would ever ship.
I'm definitely excited about the Olympus 45mm f/1.8, and will likely sell my Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G soon to fund getting one.

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