What is this update button for generative ai in Lightroom about?

[mfinley]

I had this photo and was going to remove the 3 girls in the foreground using the generative Ai remove tool in lightroom classic

Which resulted in this, with weird lighter areas where the girls were

Then I noticed in the update button was lit up. When you hover over it is says "Ai edit status shift click to update all"

When I clicked it the image changed to this

Any ideas what this is all about?

 

[Zeee]

Here you go.

 

[Zeee]

Watching the video you will notice the order of operations is long. You don't have to follow it. Some said cropping first would be better because it does not have to Denosie the entire file. My tests showed no difference between a full sized file and a cropped file. With the old method that created a DNG, the Denoise process stripped away any edits you made and applied them back after it was done. I expect this is also happening when you apply denoise with the new no DNG process. Try it for yourself.

I shortened it for my requirements. Easier to follow. I always start with Denoise. If the file needs it I apply it. If not I move on. Step 5 is personal. I use the Adaptive Color. If you don'r you can start with whatever profile you like.

1. Denoise, Raw Details, Super Resolution
2. All AI edits under Remove Icon - Reflection/People first
3. Lens Blur (if wanted)
4. Crop/Transform
5. Adaptive Color Profile
6. Global Adjustments
7. Masking

Note: If I do use Super Resolution it's the last thing I do. I may crop a little more.

 

[mfinley]

Ah, interesting. I had no idea there was an order they required for best results. Thanks this clears it all up!

 

[Zeee]

Ah, interesting. I had no idea there was an order they required for best results. Thanks this clears it all up!

Like I said you don’t have to follow it. It does not take much to adapt to the workflow.

 

[Zeee]

Are you new to LrC?

 

[Jim B (MSP)]

Ah, interesting. I had no idea there was an order they required for best results. Thanks this clears it all up!

Like I said you don’t have to follow it. It does not take much to adapt to the workflow.

I supposedly know this, but sometimes forget as I blast through a photo. Sometimes I don't "see the distraction" until I am near completion. At that point, since I often sharpen last with Topaz Photo AI, I finish up the sharpening, save it as a Tiff, than remove the distraction at that point -- it usually works well.

 

[tbcass]

It appears to have used generative fill to fill in the "ghosts".

 

[mfinley]

It appears to have used generative fill to fill in the "ghosts".

You could say it that way.

I'm confused why Adobe has chosen to go this route and make the user manually correct through an update button. If the results are desired through the user manually pressing an update button, I see no reason why LR isn't simply automatically doing this "update" itself after a user does something out of sequence.

 

[tbcass]

It appears to have used generative fill to fill in the "ghosts".

You could say it that way.

I'm confused why Adobe has chosen to go this route and make the user manually correct through an update button. If the results are desired through the user manually pressing an update button, I see no reason why LR isn't simply automatically doing this "update" itself after a user does something out of sequence.

I would presume it allows the user to use something else, cloning for example.

 

[mfinley]

It appears to have used generative fill to fill in the "ghosts".

You could say it that way.

I'm confused why Adobe has chosen to go this route and make the user manually correct through an update button. If the results are desired through the user manually pressing an update button, I see no reason why LR isn't simply automatically doing this "update" itself after a user does something out of sequence.

I would presume it allows the user to use something else, cloning for example.

The "ghost" as you called it is a mistake in the rendering when you do generative ai out of sequence. You fix it by hitting the update button.

 

[Zeee]

It appears to have used generative fill to fill in the "ghosts".

You could say it that way.

I'm confused why Adobe has chosen to go this route and make the user manually correct through an update button. If the results are desired through the user manually pressing an update button, I see no reason why LR isn't simply automatically doing this "update" itself after a user does something out of sequence.

I would presume it allows the user to use something else, cloning for example.

The "ghost" as you called it is a mistake in the rendering when you do generative ai out of sequence. You fix it by hitting the update button.

So far only one time the Update didn’t work for me. Still had some remnant's. I had to start over in sequence and it was fine. I guess that is one of those unexpected results Adobe mentions. It was more than one mask.