What is missing from the E620?

[Josegaut]

Here's a camera with the best specs anybody can find at this price.

And here's already the 1st post asking what's missing on it, as well as people complaining that it has no weather sealing, or whatever costly feature that NOT everybody wants.

So let's play the game. What it misses :

• 24 megapixels (or more if possible)
• weathersealing
• 1 000 000 pixels LCD (3 inches, not 2.7)
• 11 fps
• 51-point autofocus
• very low noise at 6400 iso
• please no art filters (it's not "pro")
• 7-14, 12-60 and 50-200 as kit lenses
• all this for the same price as annouced

I will not consider Olympus a serious company until I have that

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[shinndigg]

...I calls em likes I sees em
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[shinndigg]

And your ideal cameras have seen olympus lose significant market
share. If these new cameras are so desirable why is nobody buying
them.

If nobody where buying them, then why are Olympus still in business???
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[Stu 5]

And your ideal cameras have seen olympus lose significant market
share. If these new cameras are so desirable why is nobody buying
them.

Akemi this is not meant to sound rude but you really do not understand how the market works. Good reviews a lot of the time have nothing to do with how good a camera is. Other things can determine this.

Also dealers sometimes push brands not because they are good but because of other reasons.

Gaining market share at the end of the day has little to do with how good the camera is.

 

[CrashE3]

Some see a glass as half full, some as half empty. Some concern themselves of the saftey measures taken to protect them from all of these glass containers that everybody is only half filling, while some live to smash the glass.

Read his little trollish posts. This is not the camera HE wants, so it is OBVIOUSLY inferior product.

Dude.. go ask the Nikon forum where their articulating screen, in-body IS, at this price point, in this size, camera is with consumer glass that is as well reviewed as Olympus is.

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[Raist3d]

what you propose would sell better? And btw, aren't you looking at the reaction (except yours apparently) to the e-620 announcement?

And your ideal cameras have seen olympus lose significant market
share. If these new cameras are so desirable why is nobody buying
them.

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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'

 

[Raist3d]

nobody else is mentioning other things really, as a deal breaker. It's just him.

So far it seems. Hell, even Barry seemed excited. You just can't top that.

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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'

 

[Raist3d]

No, it will bring it noticeably higher than a single DLM-1.

Well, the thing is it's not very convincing, if I understood
correctly, using the grip allows for two BLS instead of one, so you
get 2300 mAh, for an extra bulk that is worth 3-4 spare BLS.
The BLM is 1500 mAh, so the grip only offers +50% over a single BLM.

I have used cameras with both batteries. Given you get 650 shots CIPA rated on the E-3 (consider the small battery gives you 500!), 2x 500 = 1,000- that is WELL above the E-3. The E-30 is rated at 750? So that's 250 shots more? That's quite a bit!

Yup, and size.

The size difference relative to the body needed to hold a BLM rather
than a BLS isn't huge, and it would mostly affect the grip size.
Maybe in the next body revision.

I beg to differ. Size and feel matters, at least to some of us. I rather do exactly what they did, and I am glad they went for that.

Given the extra gizmos that are bound to eat power, the E-620 will
likely have a lower battery life than the E-420, which was already
not its strong point. We'll see when user reports come in.

No, it has the same. That's what the CIPA ratings say for both. Remember that the e-420 is a year older than this development in which time the cpu could have gone a die shrink or so which would make it even more power efficient.

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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'

 

[DLGW]

Ofcourse it (unsuprisingly) doesn't have weather sealing either, so I'm not interested at all.

 

[Ehrik]

Minor niggles, LCD pixel count (size is fine), no AF assist (how about selling a small one that plugs into the hot shoe, for €20?).

But better focus on all the things they got right on this one, this is a time for celebration.

The AF calibration is so right. Just what I have been asking for for a long time now. You'll see plenty of threads about this on the other forums, mark my words.

Just my two oere
Erik from Sweden

 

[boxcam78]

There does not appear to be a a remote release socket. The only socket seems to be the USB socket on the rear bottom right - is this intended to be used also as a remote release socket.?

 

[ericinho]

It sounds very promissing, but its Dynamic Range and higher ISO performance will be the deciding factors if with the 620 Olly can claw back in the race with the likes of Canon/Nikon/Sony. Yet, contrary to the 520, it seems they got a lot right with this one!

 

[Barry Fitzgerald]

nobody else is mentioning other things really, as a deal breaker.
It's just him.

So far it seems. Hell, even Barry seemed excited. You just can't top
that.

Well I would not say excited ;-)

Just Oly genuinely seem to have addressed most of the issues on this model, I am not an Oly user, but I do play about now and then with their cameras (I am an ex Oly film user truth be told), I felt the AF needed updating..they have done that, the VF needed an upgrade, they did that (though even bigger would be better), they moved the shooting info to the bottom of the VF (I have it on the side of my film one, bottom is better!)

Added IS, which is a big thing that the previous models lacked. Art filters, ok some of them are a bit of a gimmick, but I kinda like a few too, never hurts to get nice results straight out of camera does it ?? Up to 4fps..didn't expect that, that's pretty good really. Lens adjust..

They put the strap lugs where they should be, didn't like the previous model's front ones..option for VG too

Ok so we have to wait for the IQ..let's see.

Long list, they did lots of stuff! good ;-)

But in honestly, being a sceptic and all, Oly have done a lot more than some makers of late, and it at least looks like we have a nice compact, mid range DSLR, very well specified DSLR, that's probably got some decent pull and appeal.

Nuff said really..bodes well for the new E-520, as they will obviously add stuff to that. On paper I don't see how even a die hard Oly fan has much to moan about, trust me, I tried hard to find something..but I failed!

Critical as I have been, you have to take your hat off to a maker who sits down, listens to feedback, and then resolves the quirks etc. Oly did put some work in here, and that deserves praise, whatever system you use.

 

[Raist3d]

out of the sensor, nothing more. If that's good enough for you then yay! if not, then not the camera for you.

--
Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'

 

[TrapperJohn]

It looks good. The E30 was too pricey, 520 didn't have a swing out LCD, they fixed both. That's great, should draw some new folks into the mold, and especially with the swing out LCD, raises the bar for the $600 DSLR once again.

But...

access to quality lenses from the low end to the highest end in
the entire manufacturer line for this mount,

Something missing? The midrange glass. Okay, the low end is a very good deal, the high end is utterly fantastic but way too pricey for us working stiffs, especially since the global economy had iFart installed on it.

Oly, you're almost there. Something in the 400mm range that doesn't cost $2k+. Something to take the place of the PL25, 'cause it won't be around much longer. Stretch the 50 Macro to 100.

 

[Raist3d]

I think the e-420 is fantastic and to me this (the e-620) is pretty much everything I wanted in 95.8% form I am fine with that. This will be my wedding and "pro work" camera moving forward with the e-420 as a backup.

I plan no more body purchases for a while after this.

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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'

 

[steppenwolfer]

with specs so far!

This seems just the right camera to add to my E-1 and to replace C-7070. I was thinking about E-30 (and even Nikon D300), but this could be the ONE! 7AF points, and small body + IS for all my lenses!

Hope AF is (significaly) faster than in E-1 (that is only reason I started to look for another camera).
Video was never my cup of tea, so no problem with that.

I wish it had batteries my E-1 use so I could use one charger. But, I can understand reasons for change.

Also built-in GPS and AF assist light would be appreciated (strobing flash is terrible as af assist). But this is certanly not reason to complain!

Looking forward to samples. If results will be reasonably good, this is my next camera!

 

[Swingline]

I love the articulated frame and the alternate aspect ratios. I would liked one more: 3:1 very wide. I didn't notice a 1920 x 1080 pixel size. The only thing I expect in a future model is HD movie mode and hdmi output.

 

[Philflash]

--To bad Tamron doesnt make an 18-250(270) for it.

 

[pip22]

Please list waht you think is missing from the E620. I don't think it
has enough focus points and it should be weathersealed. I woulld be
wary about buying this camera as olympus has a track record of
releasing a new model with more features and better specs a few
months later. I bet their is an E630 or an E700 waiting to be
released.

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Well that's the nature of the business. All the manufacturer's are working on the next new model all the time and secrecy is essential to them. Olympus is no different that Nikon or Canon in that respect. So if you keep putting off buying a new model for fear of an announcement that a newer one is just months away you'll never reach a decision on what to buy. That's just how technology is. All you can do is buy the latest model that meets most of your requirements then get out there and enjoy using it. Nothing you can do short of industrial espionage is going to stop new models being announced just after you chose something and bought it.