Soooo... it's NOT the GX1/G3 sensor!

[Detail Man]

DxOMark has a preview web-page for the Olympus OM-D E-M5 at:

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Olympus/OM-D-E-M5

They have yet to publish the pixel pitch of the E-M5 image-sensor. When they do, one will be able to compare that published pixel-pitch to the G3 and GX1 image-sensor pixel-pitch of 3.75 Microns:

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Panasonic/Lumix-DMC-G3#tabs-3

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Panasonic/Lumix-DMC-GX1

 

[Brian Mosley]

You miss the point that the huge step forward sensor already exists, but it is in the GH2, and for whatever commercial reason, we can't have it. Which is a crying shame.

We have different perceptions of 'huge step forward' - careful exposure would cover that difference.

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[Louis_Dobson]

Not for landscape work with heavy PP. You are stuck either messing about with multiple exposures (which is a huge pain, and forget it, is my attitude), lugging a heavy dSLR about (been there, done that), or lumping the fairly grumpy performance of the GH2 (my choice).

I look forward to shooting with the OM-D for non landscape work though.

You miss the point that the huge step forward sensor already exists, but it is in the GH2, and for whatever commercial reason, we can't have it. Which is a crying shame.

We have different perceptions of 'huge step forward' - careful exposure would cover that difference.

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[Brian Mosley]

Not for landscape work with heavy PP. You are stuck either messing about with multiple exposures (which is a huge pain, and forget it, is my attitude), lugging a heavy dSLR about (been there, done that), or lumping the fairly grumpy performance of the GH2 (my choice).

Well, if you're doing heavy PP, I don't understand your reluctance to bracket and combine - it's not much 'heavier'

I look forward to shooting with the OM-D for non landscape work though.

I'll use it for both, I expect - with ND graduated filters and bracketing where appropriate.

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[sigala1]

In other messages I assumed it was a Panasonic brand name.

In fact, Olympus has trademarked "Live MOS", so they can put this designation on any sensor they buy from any company.

However, the sensor is probably still a Panasonic sensor because if it only has 1/3 EV more DR, that's till pretty low and sounds similar to the G3 sensor.

I think it's a new sensor from Panasonic, that is capable of faster readout for faster AF, but it still has the same basic technology as Panasonic sensors in the GH2 or G2 so don't expect it to do anything amazing with DR or noise that other Panasonic sensors can't do

 

[dmanthree]

does any beleive them anymore.. how many 12mp did oly design.. maybe 5... Oly developed five 5 12mp sensors from scratch.. that just happen to be the same as panasonic sensors.. hahahahahaaa

come on.

this is the g3/gx1 sensor.. haahhaaaa

With a different pixel count?

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[MadsR]

I like "the marketing guys might have a different meaning of the word new than we do"...

It is still most likely the G3/GX1 sensor, with Olympus adding a different electronics layer to it than Panasonic did... Much like the E-P3 tweaked sensor...

 

[Louis_Dobson]

Yes, that's normal. Nobody uses all the pixels.

does any beleive them anymore.. how many 12mp did oly design.. maybe 5... Oly developed five 5 12mp sensors from scratch.. that just happen to be the same as panasonic sensors.. hahahahahaaa

come on.

this is the g3/gx1 sensor.. haahhaaaa

With a different pixel count?

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[dmanthree]

Yes, that's normal. Nobody uses all the pixels.

Something doesn't seem right. The Oly version is slightly higher resolution than the Panny version? I'm pretty skeptical that this is the same sensor. No big deal, just curious, really. I'm hoping that Oly is right and the DR is higher, etc.

No rush to buy...

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[alaska_tim]

Kodak doesn't make image sensors or cameras anymore.

 

[MadsR]

Kodak doesn't make image sensors or cameras anymore.

As said by the post you replied to, they sold the digital imaging division some time ago. So Leica users should not be disturbed either

 

[antoineb]

First, we know that the marketing depts at these companies tend to have a very loose interpretation of what "new sensor" means.

Nikon for years have been using Sony sensors but rarely admitting it because they had added their own image-processing tweaks (and those were good, because the Sony sensors in Nikon DSLRs would routinely produce better images and lower noise, than the same sensors when used in Sony DSLRs).

Olympus have had their days with m43 cameras where the same Panasonic-made sensor delivered cleaner JPEGs with lower noise, than the Panasonic cameras using the same sensor.

Now Olympus are a tiny company, in a fragile financial situation, and that's before we mention all the recent trouble they've been through.

We know very well that they just do not have the means to design let alone produce their own imaging sensors. Ditto for having dedicated sensors produced for them. So of COURSE they're continuing to use existing sensors. Either Panasonic (as is likely), or else trying someone else.

So whatever Olympus Marketing dept. say, it is just not possible for Oly to be using a "totally different" or "totally new" sensor. Sorry.