Smallest compact camera with larger sensor?

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What is the smallest (physical size) large sensor compact camera ever made? And by large sensor I am refering to 1/1,7" or larger? It does not have to be in production, but I hope it is. I have not paid attention to development for the last years, so if anyone her just happen to know the answer, I would be very grateful. My dream camera would of course be a dMinox or a dContax T1, but that will never happen I think.
 
What is the smallest (physical size) large sensor compact camera ever made? And by large sensor I am refering to 1/1,7" or larger? It does not have to be in production, but I hope it is. I have not paid attention to development for the last years, so if anyone her just happen to know the answer, I would be very grateful. My dream camera would of course be a dMinox or a dContax T1, but that will never happen I think.
Probably Canon S series models. Personally, I'd go a little bigger and look at the RX100, the Oly/Panasonic models (Olympux XZ2 is a bit bigger, but nice at current discounts), or Fuji XF and XQ series.

There's also the little Pentax Q's which use interchangeable lenses.
 
If you don't care about price...the Sony Rx1 has a full size 24mp sensor..... great little camera. Should be able to get it under $2000.
 
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Thanks for suggestions!

I have looked at the specs for the cameras, and found the following:

Canon s120: 100x59x29

Canon s95: 100x58x30

Richo GR: 117x61x35

Sony RX100 III: 102x58x41

Pentax Q7: 105x58x34

Oly' XZ2:113x65x48

Are there any others to consider? Money is no problem. I just want the smallest camera able to deliver high IQ in low light environment, and to fit in a small pcket. The RX100 is definately too thick with 41mm. The 30mm Canon S120 is better for me, even if IQ is a tad worse!
 
Thanks for suggestions!

I have looked at the specs for the cameras, and found the following:

Canon s120: 100x59x29

Canon s95: 100x58x30

Richo GR: 117x61x35

Sony RX100 III: 102x58x41

Pentax Q7: 105x58x34

Oly' XZ2:113x65x48

Are there any others to consider? Money is no problem. I just want the smallest camera able to deliver high IQ in low light environment, and to fit in a small pcket. The RX100 is definately too thick with 41mm. The 30mm Canon S120 is better for me, even if IQ is a tad worse!
The RX100 I is 36mm versus 41mm of the III. Fits in my jeans pockets.

The S120's sensor is a bit slower, but the lens is also pretty pokey at the tele end, in particular. The RX100 is f/4.9 (the III is f/2.8 !!!) but the S120 combines a smaller sensor with f/5.7. You just have to decide if you need low light at tele settings. Compare specs on various versions; Canon makes tweaks to the S & G series that sometimes make older models more desirable than new ones.

Fuji XQ1 comes in at 100 x 59 x 33 mm. It uses a 2/3" sensor. I saw a 20x30" print from a previous version (XF1) at Fujifilm's booth at Photoplus in 2013 that looked quite nice.

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Hey NoRules, I have two Fuji finepix E900 cameras ( bought one in 2006 and the second around 2009 as a back-up..they both still take great photos). They have a 1/1.6 in. super CCD HR sensor w/ 9 mp. Their both small size and box like. Approx 2 5/16" hi x 3 7/8 w x 1 1/2 (1 7/8'' at right grip side). I use one at work to record constr progress and both have high use. I'm sure there is more info on the net if you wanted more information..
 
Thanks for suggestions!

I have looked at the specs for the cameras, and found the following:

Canon s120: 100x59x29

Canon s95: 100x58x30

Richo GR: 117x61x35

Sony RX100 III: 102x58x41

Pentax Q7: 105x58x34

Oly' XZ2:113x65x48

Are there any others to consider? Money is no problem. I just want the smallest camera able to deliver high IQ in low light environment, and to fit in a small pcket. The RX100 is definately too thick with 41mm. The 30mm Canon S120 is better for me, even if IQ is a tad worse!
 
Thanks for suggestions!

I have looked at the specs for the cameras, and found the following:

Canon s120: 100x59x29

Canon s95: 100x58x30

Richo GR: 117x61x35

Sony RX100 III: 102x58x41

Pentax Q7: 105x58x34

Oly' XZ2:113x65x48

Are there any others to consider? Money is no problem. I just want the smallest camera able to deliver high IQ in low light environment, and to fit in a small pcket. The RX100 is definately too thick with 41mm. The 30mm Canon S120 is better for me, even if IQ is a tad worse!

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Thanks for posting images, Robert!

I will look into both Olympus and Canon.
 
How strange ... first time I think EVER, that I've seen the Fuji E900 mentioned (by 'jraa' here in his post) . I've still got mine that was bought quite a long time ago now and it WAS a very nice little camera.. long gone now I'm sure...

But... nobody seems to have mentioned what really is a super SMALL camera..the Panasonic GM1..with such as a Pancake 14mm lens. I've used that combo (still have it) and it's literally palm size..TOTALLY silent.. and of course has the M4/3 size sensor...VERY good little camera you can literally put in a shirt top-pocket.. yet it gives you real M4/3 size quality...

The successor GM5 is slightly bigger and SEEMS to me to have NOT been accepted quite as well because it did spoil the original very small size.



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But... nobody seems to have mentioned what really is a super SMALL camera..the Panasonic GM1..with such as a Pancake 14mm lens. I've used that combo (still have it) and it's literally palm size..TOTALLY silent.. and of course has the M4/3 size sensor...VERY good little camera you can literally put in a shirt top-pocket.. yet it gives you real M4/3 size quality...
Because it's not as small when you put it up against the RX100... which also edges away from the GM1 sensor wise TBH (though obviously you get the better DoF control, such as it is). Also with such a small camera (comparatively speaking with ILCs), a non-stabilised pancake on top of a non-stabilised body is a bit of a problem - and on the other hand the OIS kit, while miraculously small for what it is, just sticks out way too much to qualify as practically pocketable, even for regular non-hipsters (as I've been accused of being elsewhere)

I thought the GM1/5 were very good ideas in theory but it didn't add up in practice. Still, if you are somewhat indecisive it's an option. Personally I'd take an E-M10 over it if sticking with m43 since neither are pocketable, but both are still any-baggable with a pancake and the latter obviously has way less compromises.
 
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Thanks for posting images, Robert!

I will look into both Olympus and Canon.

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Why aren't you looking into the Sony?

The XZ isn't superior and it's quite a bit (especially compared to the RX100 II) thicker as well - remember that the Olympus has a lens cap which isn't counted in the specs, and that adding an auto lens cap further increases the permanent stickyoutness.
 
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Thanks for posting images, Robert!

I will look into both Olympus and Canon.

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Free your mind, and your camera will follow...
Why aren't you looking into the Sony?

The XZ isn't superior and it's quite a bit (especially compared to the RX100 II) thicker as well - remember that the Olympus has a lens cap which isn't counted in the specs, and that adding an auto lens cap further increases the permanent stickyoutness.
I'm not looking into the Sony because it's 12mm thicker than the Canon and ... O'boy, the Oly' is even more like a brick! The Panasonic GM1 looks like fun with the lens cap lens, or shield lens :-) With that I can have one of my C-mount lenses in another pocket. But you see, than I have to have all the gadgets ... I think Canon s90, s95, etc. is more what I'm looking for. Just un-complicated fun. (I have medium format and SLR's) I'm not buying into another system.

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The GM1 will be no smaller than the RX100 even with a lens cap lens.

Looks like the Canon S it is then, though I'd say the Sony, while at the limit of "noticeable in-pocketness", is a much better prospect image wise than the Canon. A 1/1.7" sensor barely makes any difference, relatively speaking, over your run of the mill 1/2.3" sensors.
Don't be too quick to denigrate the small sensor cameras.. if (as it seems) the OP is looking more fora nice small camera that is simply easy to carry AND gives good fun results.. there have always been good choices in the small compacts. It's as much as how you use them as anything.. and I've had some VERY good results and with a VERY easy-to-carry little compact .. many different choices .. over the years. The simply excellent little Panasonic FX150 was one I always felt I could never understand why it never received better credit for what it's capabilities were..

VERY small and so easy to carry...

I've GOT an RX-100 and it's almost twice the bulk of the RX150 !!



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Thanks for posting images, Robert!

I will look into both Olympus and Canon.

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Free your mind, and your camera will follow...
Why aren't you looking into the Sony?

The XZ isn't superior and it's quite a bit (especially compared to the RX100 II) thicker as well - remember that the Olympus has a lens cap which isn't counted in the specs, and that adding an auto lens cap further increases the permanent stickyoutness.
I'm not looking into the Sony because it's 12mm thicker than the Canon and ... O'boy, the Oly' is even more like a brick! The Panasonic GM1 looks like fun with the lens cap lens, or shield lens :-) With that I can have one of my C-mount lenses in another pocket. But you see, than I have to have all the gadgets ... I think Canon s90, s95, etc. is more what I'm looking for. Just un-complicated fun. (I have medium format and SLR's) I'm not buying into another system.

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Free your mind, and your camera will follow...
The GM1 will be no smaller than the RX100 even with a lens cap lens.

Looks like the Canon S it is then, though I'd say the Sony, while at the limit of "noticeable in-pocketness", is a much better prospect image wise than the Canon. A 1/1.7" sensor barely makes any difference, relatively speaking, over your run of the mill 1/2.3" sensors.
Don't be too quick to denigrate the small sensor cameras.. if (as it seems) the OP is looking more fora nice small camera that is simply easy to carry AND gives good fun results.. there have always been good choices in the small compacts. It's as much as how you use them as anything.. and I've had some VERY good results and with a VERY easy-to-carry little compact .. many different choices .. over the years. The simply excellent little Panasonic FX150 was one I always felt I could never understand why it never received better credit for what it's capabilities were..

VERY small and so easy to carry...

I've GOT an RX-100 and it's almost twice the bulk of the RX150 !!

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It's about what you consider value for money.

I 'denigrate' small sensors because of their relative limitations compared to what the RX100 can do in practically the same form factor. How much that's worth it to you is something else.

OP has said money is not a problem, which makes the RX the leading contender.

I just can't understand if you actually have an RX100 why you'd play up cameras that does not compete in any way bar size and are at best equal in terms of usability - and even if we're talking size, then the Canon would be a better bet in the same form factor, as we've been discussing - and also why you'd bring up the GM1 in the other branch as well, you should be as aware as I am about comparable pocketability (the GM1 is not with any lens bar the cap and even that's a bit thicker - if the RX100 is on the large side for someone) and also the (lack of) sensor performance disparity between the two with the kit not optically comparing that well to the RX100 III's built-in article either.
 
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