Passing on the GR IIIx

[Harold66]

I think we want each GR to be an improvement and be successful. A sleeper may mean it’s less likely to stay around

Not one single person I know outside of the camera forums ever knew Ricoh made cameras and certainly had never heard of the GR line.

I'm all in for improvements and I think Ricoh has seen moderate success, but I still think it's a sleeper.

You maybe right . But as for me , my first cameras I bought almost 40 years ago . It was a film camera compatible with my Pentax K mount and it was the first , and I believe only one ever made , camera with solar top to function with "solar energy " :-O:-D:-D:-D

Harold

 

[JT26]

Maybe I misunderstood. I thought you said you wanted them to stay sleeper cameras, which would intimate a less successful camera

 

[Tungsten Nordstein]

Curious, how hard is it to add an aspect ratio?

Is it too difficult or expensive or what?

I mean, why not have 4 or 5 different aspect ratios?

I suspect that available aspect ratios are not modifiable via end-user applied firmware updates. They probably reside at a deeper level of OS functionality.

What I'm asking is, how hard is it for Ricoh to provide more than 2 aspect ratios for shooting stills?

Easy if they do it at design stage

But I think it's impossible to now add this functionality to the existing GR3. That's what I was saying.

Maybe in GR4?

So it would be more firmware than software?

To be honest, I tend to like the 3:2 aspect ratio but others seem to want the 4:3 ratio.

And I've never used or tried the 1:1 aspect ratio even once.

firmware is software that is updateable using a writeable rom chip. But I'm not sure anymore, it seems like Ricoh added the 50mm crop with a firmware update.

 

[joslocum]

Maybe I misunderstood. I thought you said you wanted them to stay sleeper cameras, which would intimate a less successful camera

Probably not quite the right word on my part. But it seems like from what I'm hearing, the GRIII and GRIIIx have increased in sales exponentially over previous GR models, yet few people outside of the forums have ever heard of it. So I suppose it is "quietly" successful.

Sleeper

Informal. something or someone that becomes unexpectedly successful or important after a period of being unnoticed, ignored, or considered unpromising or a failure

 

[thelps]

waouh you are really clueless aren’t you ? Overlays are useless since you have to crop every single image again in post , without even knowing the exact way you framed.

this is one of the most idiotic suggestions that i have read several times on this forum

Harold is this comment really necessary?

Maybe not . It is just a bit annoying to read the same "advice" over and over from people who have clearly not thought this thing through

I personally can't see how a seasoned photographer such as yourself would have difficulty in visualizing a 4:3 composition on a 3:2 LCD.

If necessary, 4 tickmarks with a red permanent marker would do the job.

I am a bit surprised by this comment . Visualising the image in 4.3 ratio is only half of the job because the file will be created without that mark crop and I am back to square one when I look at the images on my computer

it is crazy that Ricoh refuses to implement this via firmware but it is also rather easy to establish an auto-cropped import routine via your favorite image editor.

Unless I am missing something , how does this solve my problem ? Even with the tick marks , once I download the files from my card , I am back with 3.2 images and I need to remember for each image how I composed the image on the LCD

Harold

if you switch between formats it can be difficult.

No i do not

if all you shoot is 4:3 have photoshop or any other program crop it automatically for you?

hardly and ideal solution but it is a solution.

ok but i need to check something first . Maybe you know the answer to that one

if i put crop marks on the lcd like you suggested, when i ask photoshop to crop with the 4:3 ratio , is it going to select exactly the same crop than the one i was seeing on the LCD ?

considering that you're aiming for the maximum-sized 4:3 out of a 3:2 image, the answer is yes: all image software (including photoshop, lightroom etc) will let you batch convert your photos regardless of orientation: vertical or horizontal doesn't require different processing. you can automatically crop them to 4:3. please look for online tutorials: youtube etc

Yes I will check

If this could work, I would get the GR3x first as 40mm is my favorite focal length for street photography

But I also need someone to confirm something for me how the AF lock would work if I assign to the FN button

I thought this would work like my SAF focus lock on the GR2 but someone told me that if I do assign it , it would only work for ONE picture .. meaning that the focus would not be locked until I press that button again.. in other words it would only lock for one image

As I mentioned many times before , there are several things that bug me on the GR3 but the 4.3 ratio and the af lock were the two deal breakers

so I would appreciate if a GR3 owner could let me know how the af lock works on the Gr3s when assigned to the FN button

Harold

So are you referring to something different to "back button focusing" ?

Have a look at Samuel's video here at time 28:34:

He calls his setting Enable AF back button focusing.

At 28:55 he shows the FN button in custom AF mode and one of the options is AF+AE Lock. Is this no good for your use because of the AE lock being included ?

Or do I miss something as are you looking for some other functionality ?

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[sae1lin2aug3]

Thought about buying the new GR, but decided no, I'll stick with my older GRII.

Why? Well, the GR II has a built-in flash, an AEL/AFL lock button, TAv on the top dial, and crop mode at 35mm and 47mm equivs. ... to go with the 28mm lens, and I use both it and the 35mm crop a lot. So am happy, though always tempted by a new GR... I go back to the Digital IV. Don't know what it would take for Ricoh to get me to upgrade. Maybe a GR II redo with a much better low-light sensor, and Apple AirDrop software for easy transfer to iPhone or iPad... and the little flash able to angle up for bounce flash. Can't think of much else... maybe weatherproofing, which might be impossible on a small camera with a moving lens?

I had the GR 1 for four yeas and just die.

Then got two GR 11and six batteries.

As a retied photo journalist one must alway have a back-ups.

I now mainly shoot street photography.

 

[JT26]

Hi Harold,

Just checked for you, set the fn button to enable AF, and if you hold that button down it’ll lock / hold focus and you can then use the shutter butting to take photos, not just one, with the focus being held in the original spot.

It’s holds focus, while you hold the button, and releases it once you lift your fighter from the fn button

 

[Harold66]

But I also need someone to confirm something for me how the AF lock would work if I assign to the FN button

I thought this would work like my SAF focus lock on the GR2 but someone told me that if I do assign it , it would only work for ONE picture .. meaning that the focus would not be locked until I press that button again.. in other words it would only lock for one image

As I mentioned many times before , there are several things that bug me on the GR3 but the 4.3 ratio and the af lock were the two deal breakers

so I would appreciate if a GR3 owner could let me know how the af lock works on the Gr3s when assigned to the FN button

Harold

So are you referring to something different to "back button focusing" ?

Have a look at Samuel's video here at time 28:34:

He calls his setting Enable AF back button focusing.

At 28:55 he shows the FN button in custom AF mode and one of the options is AF+AE Lock. Is this no good for your use because of the AE lock being included ?

Or do I miss something as are you looking for some other functionality ?

First of all, as this thread gets closer to the maximum number of replies, I want to thank all of you who tried to help me finding a work-around for those changes in the Gr3 which bother me for my work. Much appreciated :-D

To answer your question , it does not matter to me if the af lock is combined with the exposure lock

In the video you mention , this is not the option Samuel chose . so I wonder if I do select the AF+AE lock will the focus lock HOLD, or do I have to keep pressing it like JT26 explained ?

I ask because having to hold the FN pushed to keep the focus locked seems very counterintuitive for me and not the best for stability

If someone could confirm , that would be great

Harold

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[JT26]

I'll check again this eve, but no I am 99% sure that its not a function I am afraid. I agree that its a little annoying having to hold the fn button in.

Only AE has a 'hold' setting, AF does not. and AF+AE also does not.

 

[Harold66]

I'll check again this eve, but no I am 99% sure that its not a function I am afraid.

Since the thread is going to be finished . Can you let me know in a private message ? thank you

I agree that its a little annoying having to hold the fn button in.

Yes it is :-( I guess my wait is not over ...

Only AE has a 'hold' setting, AF does not. and AF+AE also does not.

one has to wonder why the hold setting is available for AE but not for AF :-O

Harold

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