Infrared picture - First attempt - What am I doing wrong ???

[DStan]

That's a really beautiful picture!
hmm.. I always just used grey card WB with IR , but maeby I'll do
bit more experimenting now...

cheers.
-T

Thank you I like that one too.

I always use brightly lit grass or tree leaves for setting manual WB. That has always worked well for me so I don't argue with success. Some people say that they use a bright blue sky, so maybe I'll violate that other principle and give it a whirl. If it succeeeds, It'll create a moral dilema for me - hehehehe.
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Stan ;o()



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[Stephen W]

The other side of the coin are filters with a 50% cutoff below 700nm.

More light at the visible end of the spectrum doesn't allow for the blue skies/white foliage effect.

D50+B&W 092 filter.



Oh yea, first post here.

 

[Tengo]

Hello guys,

I am so sorry, I am so tied up with time now that I can't keep up with the forum.

I had a very quick go at that image you posted unprocessed. I think it's very well exposed and it should turn out beautifully. I couldn't get the colors going easily as well, but I believe it's because of the resized low quality jpeg.

Here is my poor example.



To get the more vivid colours out of your IR try this trick:

After your channel swap, create a duplicate layer. Go to hue/saturation and "oversaturate" the picture to your liking. It will look horrible and grainy. When you are done, change the blanding mode to "color". The grain should dissapear.The only thing you blend onto the lower layer is the saturated color.

I hope it makes sense a bit for now, and I am running.

See you and good luck.

LN

Note: Not every IR image is "good" for a channel swap. However, I really like the given example and I truly believe you will get a beautiful image.

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[Tengo]

Yes, normal D70 with a HOYA R72, which comes with the gray card. The tripod is a must.

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[Brad Waldera]

I took some IR shots today. When opened in Nikon View, they looked like they did in the LCD. When opened in Picasa2, they looked like the photo posted here by the OP. Wierd.



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[DStan]

The other side of the coin are filters with a 50% cutoff below 700nm.
More light at the visible end of the spectrum doesn't allow for the
blue skies/white foliage effect.

Do the red/blue channel swap on this one and let us see the results.
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Life is the arch enemy of sleep
Photo's are a record of life
I need a record 'cause I tend to forget.

 

[Stephen W]

Do the red/blue channel swap on this one and let us see the results.
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O.k. here's an example of the kind of results with a channel swap.



what I did notice was, doing a white balance preset on sunlit green grass and a bright yellow surface produced indistinguishable results.

For comparison an 89b filter on my old cp950 has no problem with the blue/white end result.



Cheers.....Steve

 

[DStan]

Both are nice. The first picture has IMO a proper blue in the sky and has benefitied from the channel swap. Isn't the B&W 092 filter equivalent to the R72 or a #89B.
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Stan ;o()



Life is the arch enemy of sleep
Photo's are a record of life
I need a record 'cause I tend to forget.

 

[Dr Phibes]

Hi LN
Many thanks for your kind & helpful words.

I will indeed try the approach you suggest with layers. Your attempt is MUCH nearer to what I wanted to acheive.

Many thanks again
Phibes.

 

[Stephen W]

Both are nice. The first picture has IMO a proper blue in the sky
and has benefitied from the channel swap.

Thanks for the comments.

Isn't the B&W 092 filter

equivalent to the R72 or a #89B.

Although the R72 and B&W 092 are lumped together in the 89b "group",
they exhibit different characteristics in real life.

This page http://www.rbarkerphoto.com/IR-wratten-tbl.html
and this http://msp.rmit.edu.au/Article_03/02c.html
provides some informative information.

 

[Will64]

Yes, normal D70 with a HOYA R72, which comes with the gray card.
The tripod is a must.

What gray card? I didn't get a gray card with my Hoya R72. Is it different than a standard gray card?

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[DStan]

Yes, normal D70 with a HOYA R72, which comes with the gray card.
The tripod is a must.

What gray card? I didn't get a gray card with my Hoya R72. Is it
different than a standard gray card?

Gray card? I didn't "get no stink'in gray card" with my R72 either. How about a green card, since many like to set MWB against green grass. Maybe the US INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) can provide those.
--
Stan ;o()



Life is the arch enemy of sleep
Photo's are a record of life
I need a record 'cause I tend to forget.

 

[Will64]

Yes, normal D70 with a HOYA R72, which comes with the gray card.
The tripod is a must.

What gray card? I didn't get a gray card with my Hoya R72. Is it
different than a standard gray card?

Gray card? I didn't "get no stink'in gray card" with my R72 either.
How about a green card, since many like to set MWB against green
grass. Maybe the US INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service)
can provide those.

Hmm, maybe I misinterpreted his statement. Now that I've read it again, it sounds like maybe he bought the gray card and got the Hoya R72 as a bonus. Now I definitely want to know where he purchased it!

--Will
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[DStan]

Yes, normal D70 with a HOYA R72, which comes with the gray card.
The tripod is a must.

What gray card? I didn't get a gray card with my Hoya R72. Is it
different than a standard gray card?

Gray card? I didn't "get no stink'in gray card" with my R72 either.
How about a green card, since many like to set MWB against green
grass. Maybe the US INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service)
can provide those.

Hmm, maybe I misinterpreted his statement. Now that I've read it
again, it sounds like maybe he bought the gray card and got the
Hoya R72 as a bonus. Now I definitely want to know where he
purchased it!

Yeah, if the gray card is reasonably priced, you can turn that into a business.
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Stan ;o()



Life is the arch enemy of sleep
Photo's are a record of life
I need a record 'cause I tend to forget.

 

[iwadmin]

SO,

I will be getting my D50 tomarrow. Is the Hoya R72, the filter I want to get? Is the grey card sold seperatly now. I am confused. Is there a better filter that I should be looking at?
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John

 

[Tengo]

What gray card? I didn't get a gray card with my Hoya R72. Is it
different than a standard gray card?

Gray card? I didn't "get no stink'in gray card" with my R72 either.
How about a green card, since many like to set MWB against green
grass. Maybe the US INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service)
can provide those.

Man, the green card actually is what I really need. Anyway, I guess I will have to continue patiently with my paperwork.

Now, you need to educate me guys, because I may have mislead this forum about the gray card!

This is what I got: The HOYA R72 in a box. Below the filter, there is a circular plastic, gray card. I use it for my WB settings all the time and it works for me. So can that be considered as gray card?

Anyway, if I am wrong, I'd better go and try the patch of grass as many others ....

Regards,

LN

 

[DStan]

SO,

I will be getting my D50 tomarrow. Is the Hoya R72, the filter I
want to get? Is the grey card sold seperatly now. I am confused. Is
there a better filter that I should be looking at?
--
John

We were joking about the gray card., one usually sets the Manual WB against brightly lit grass or foilage, some people say they've used the blue sky. I use grren from grass or trees. The R72, whihc I have, is very popular as it allows the false color effect. I also have a #87 filter which is more of a pure IR filter and only allows for a B&W IR effect.
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1. 87 filter on a D70

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R72 filter on a D70



--
Stan ;o()



Life is the arch enemy of sleep
Photo's are a record of life
I need a record 'cause I tend to forget.

 

[DStan]

What gray card? I didn't get a gray card with my Hoya R72. Is it
different than a standard gray card?

Gray card? I didn't "get no stink'in gray card" with my R72 either.
How about a green card, since many like to set MWB against green
grass. Maybe the US INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service)
can provide those.

Man, the green card actually is what I really need. Anyway, I guess
I will have to continue patiently with my paperwork.

Now, you need to educate me guys, because I may have mislead this
forum about the gray card!

This is what I got: The HOYA R72 in a box. Below the filter, there
is a circular plastic, gray card. I use it for my WB settings all
the time and it works for me. So can that be considered as gray
card?

Anyway, if I am wrong, I'd better go and try the patch of grass as
many others ....

Regards,

LN

I think you better go for the grass, and don;t smoke it either - lol. That's not a gray card with the filter. I just looked in my filter case, no such thing.
--
Stan ;o()



Life is the arch enemy of sleep
Photo's are a record of life
I need a record 'cause I tend to forget.

 

[timbo59]

That's not a gray card with the filter. I just looked in my filter case, no such thing.

In mine was a round milky-white translucent plastic sheet on top of a piece of foam padding. :-( I'll, like, stick to the, like, grass, man.

 

[iwadmin]

Thanks for the photo post and the explanation, Stan.

I think I got it now. I will check around and see if I can find them cheap. I think the R72 will get a lot more use on my lens though, I like the touch of color it allows.
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John