B&H are they in big problems?

Well friend I am obviously NOT spealking for you. But assuming you do the math and look at the posts and count the people who have made similar arguments, I believe I have the right to include in my opinion that statement. MOST OF US know the real deal when it comes to Lee and the B&H bashing. Just count the posts for and against Lee's position. Something that MOST of us who went to grade school can do.

For all I know you ARE Lee and I wouldn't put it past him to have multiple usernames on this forum.

I stand by my opinion and assuming you are not Lee, you have a right to yours. You also have the right to be wrong.

Scott Bourne
http://www.scottbourne.com
Peter: You need toi understand that the majority of B&H bashing
comes from just a few posters. We all know who they are and most of
us believe they are shills for a company called Delta International.
Scott,

I certainly recognize your right to have-and-post any opinion.

But, ...I think you should reconsider speaking for "most of us",
which I submit, you can't/have not been elected/asked to do,
especially when it comes to accusing fellow-members of having
ulterior motives for THEIR posting.

Before you jump to the conclusion that I am a friend of Lee's, (and
say that "most of us " think so, in an attempt to add weight to
your argument),... understand that I don't know Lee, and I have no
prboblem with B&H.

I have a problem with someone else speaking FOR me, and bet "most
of us" feel the same way.

If any of us want to call others "names" please let us do it
ourselves.

Larry
 
Use common sense....

B&H is one of the largest and oldest professional camera stores in
the world. If they were one tenth as bad as certain people want you
to believe, then they'd be out of business.

Like all companies, they make mistakes. It is how they handle the
mistakes that counts. Henry Posner from B&H regularly makes
appearances here on this board to answer these problems.
Unfortunately, we have never heard from the phantom owners and
managers of some other camera stores like Delta so we don't have
any way to hold them accountable.

While I am sure that companies like Delta and others are fine
places to buy cameras, they typically do not offer the OVERALL
service, product quality and availability as well as pricing and
warranty of B&H.

As a professional who makes his living using these tools, I can
assure you that I would not buy from B&H if I thought it meant that
I would find trouble at the end of the deal.

And I live in laid back Seattle where New York attitude is anything
but the norm!

Scott Bourne
http://www.scottbourne.com
I saw a few threads in here about B&H. I know Lee put his story
here and he can authenticate that they seem to be in a turn around.

So many people have said "they are the best". Now all these stories
are cropping up. This seem to be happening more and more often. Are
we seeing the turn around of a big company? First little
complaints, then bigger ones? Then huge ones?

I usually put it off, but I think you should make up your own mind.
Here is a new story complete with pictures. What do you think of
the box on this brand new item from B&H? Remember, someone at B&H
had to see it before it was shipped out:

http://64.49.211.153/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2426
 
Well you see Scott is a member of the " I'm Right and You are Wrong because look at the numbers) kind of guy. Majority rules NO MATTER WHAT. And "ignore that whimpering guy in the corner" he has nothing salient to say here. Yeah Scott, you do the math over the countless posts over say the last 4 months and say I am out of line to EXPECT what has been stated before. Frankly in the last week alone I think it has gained an enormous amount of creedence in light of recent events (someone that actually took photo's of the damaged delivered goods). You can pis$ and moan all you want about how right you are all the time and how nobody (such as myself) has any business posting what I do here.

The only reason I even respond to this garbage is the endless attacks on my integrity and honesty and if anything intelligence. It will be a very frozen day in Seattle when you have more of these than I......
Well friend I am obviously NOT spealking for you. But assuming you
do the math and look at the posts and count the people who have
made similar arguments, I believe I have the right to include in my
opinion that statement. MOST OF US know the real deal when it comes
to Lee and the B&H bashing. Just count the posts for and against
Lee's position. Something that MOST of us who went to grade school
can do.

For all I know you ARE Lee and I wouldn't put it past him to have
multiple usernames on this forum.

I stand by my opinion and assuming you are not Lee, you have a
right to yours. You also have the right to be wrong.
 
Thanks for a very well thought out discussion of some of the issues. It is about a level playing field also. Maybe I am different at looking also the impact that it will have on the state budgets.

If there were a way of collecting a sales tax on mailorder and internet sales; the simple way of implementing it would be a flat percentage; regardless of what the state tax rate was. I did speak to one of my represenatives; and that was he idea also. This way the "burden" would not be great on the retailer; and those states that have no sales tax or lower rate would benefit.
I don't know about California; but here in Virginia you are
required to pay the sales taxes on mail order items when you file
your income taxes.
Yes, in California you are legally required to pay the sales tax on
items purchased from out of state retailers but which were shipped
to California. It's called a "use tax", and it's exactly the same
as the state sales tax. (7.5% or so last time I checked.) Nobody
ever pays the use tax, and the state tax authorities almost never
enforce the law, but it does exist.

I'll leave aside the whole issue of whether avoiding taxes is a
good or bad idea, and also the issue of whether we get the
politicians we deserve.

But I don't think anyone would disagree that the government
shouldn't have policies or practices that favor certain businesses
over others. (This, of course, happens all the time, but that
doesn't make it a good idea.) It's simply unfair that Chip's store
is forced to charge and collect sales tax and B&H is not. It's a
terrible competitive burden for Chip, and it means Chip has a
harder time making a living, paying his employees, and creating
jobs in his local community. (Note that I mean no criticism of B&H
in the above example. Obviously, B&H didn't create this situation,
and they're just doing business aggressively in the environment
they find themselves in. Nothing wrong with that.)

I used the term "government" in a slippery way in the previous
paragraph. I did so on purpose because it gets to the root of the
problem. State governments want to collect taxes on mail order and
Internet sales, and they do have the authority to require their
citizens to pay the tax. But they don't have the authority to make
out-of-state retailers collect the tax and send it to them. Therein
lies the rub. So they pass completely toothless "use tax" laws,
then don't enforce them, and local in-state retailers (who can be
and are forced to collect sales taxes) end up with an unfair
competitive burden. The federal government wants no part of trying
to collect or enforce sales taxes for 50 different states (and the
Constitution might not allow it anyway), so nobody addresses the
problem.

This is why the moratorium on Internet sales taxes is a
fundamentally unfair and stupid policy. It favors certain retailers
over others based on the mechanism by which they sell their
products. It's totally discriminatory towards locally owned and
operated businesses, and, because those businesses provide the vast
majority of jobs and economic activity in this country, it's a
stupid economic policy. All the blather from Internet retailers
about how collecting sales tax would be too much of a burden on a
fledgling industry is self-serving nonsense designed to camouflage
the oldest scam in business: getting special treatment from the
government, so you don't have to actually compete in a free and
fair marketplace. And how in the world does a behemoth like
Amazon.com cast itself as the underdog in a fragile and fledgling
industry whose very existence is threatened if it had to collect
state sales taxes like the corner bookstore owned by your neighbors
who are trying to sell enough books every month to pay for their
kids' braces.

Okay, I'm done ranting now.
 

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