A7RV: EVF > Image Light Variance?

[Handiworks]

Quick question.

In my Indoor / Low-Light photography, I keep having a rather large variance between the brightness my EVF is producing while shooting compared to the actual output Raw/Jpeg image.

I don't remember having such a disparity with my A7IV in low-light... is there a setting you can think of that might be creating this?

I have my EVF "Viewfinder Bright" set to "0" (Manual). Wondering if D-RO set to On (+3) might impact this?

In my last photoshoot (Birthday / Indoor), nearly all the photos were very underexposed... It could just have been my eyes were adjusted to the lower light and it looked fine to me in the viewfinder. With my Tammy 20/2.8, I ended up shooting at F2.8 / ISO 1000-1600 / SS 200 simply as it looked fine to me in the EVF. Underexposed is certainly better than overexposed .

Thanks for the help.

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[RealWorldPhoto]

Quick question.

In my Indoor / Low-Light photography, I keep having a rather large variance between the brightness my EVF is producing while shooting compared to the actual output Raw/Jpeg image.

I don't remember having such a disparity with my A7IV in low-light... is there a setting you can think of that might be creating this?

I have my EVF "Viewfinder Bright" set to "0" (Manual). Wondering if D-RO set to On (+3) might impact this?

In my last photoshoot (Birthday / Indoor), nearly all the photos were very underexposed... It could just have been my eyes were adjusted to the lower light and it looked fine to me in the viewfinder. With my Tammy 20/2.8, I ended up shooting at F2.8 / ISO 1000-1600 / SS 200 simply as it looked fine to me in the EVF. Underexposed is certainly better than overexposed .

Thanks for the help.

Just monitor the histogram. Our eyes are very selective when reporting light intensity, so don't trust them for evaluating exposure.

 

[Matt2134]

Quick question.

In my Indoor / Low-Light photography, I keep having a rather large variance between the brightness my EVF is producing while shooting compared to the actual output Raw/Jpeg image.

I don't remember having such a disparity with my A7IV in low-light... is there a setting you can think of that might be creating this?

I have my EVF "Viewfinder Bright" set to "0" (Manual). Wondering if D-RO set to On (+3) might impact this?

In my last photoshoot (Birthday / Indoor), nearly all the photos were very underexposed... It could just have been my eyes were adjusted to the lower light and it looked fine to me in the viewfinder. With my Tammy 20/2.8, I ended up shooting at F2.8 / ISO 1000-1600 / SS 200 simply as it looked fine to me in the EVF. Underexposed is certainly better than overexposed .

Thanks for the help.

What happens when you turn DRO off? And you haven't inadvertently set live view effect display off (sorry, had to ask just in case!)

 

[Handiworks]

Quick question.

In my Indoor / Low-Light photography, I keep having a rather large variance between the brightness my EVF is producing while shooting compared to the actual output Raw/Jpeg image.

I don't remember having such a disparity with my A7IV in low-light... is there a setting you can think of that might be creating this?

I have my EVF "Viewfinder Bright" set to "0" (Manual). Wondering if D-RO set to On (+3) might impact this?

In my last photoshoot (Birthday / Indoor), nearly all the photos were very underexposed... It could just have been my eyes were adjusted to the lower light and it looked fine to me in the viewfinder. With my Tammy 20/2.8, I ended up shooting at F2.8 / ISO 1000-1600 / SS 200 simply as it looked fine to me in the EVF. Underexposed is certainly better than overexposed .

Thanks for the help.

Just monitor the histogram. Our eyes are very selective when reporting light intensity, so don't trust them for evaluating exposure.

Perfect suggestion, Thanks. Funny enough I just finished watching 3 old histogram tutorials on YT lol (Steve Perry, Thaler etc.). I've never really used it much In-Camera just in PP. Time for to add a new habit.

 

[Handiworks]

Quick question.

In my Indoor / Low-Light photography, I keep having a rather large variance between the brightness my EVF is producing while shooting compared to the actual output Raw/Jpeg image.

I don't remember having such a disparity with my A7IV in low-light... is there a setting you can think of that might be creating this?

I have my EVF "Viewfinder Bright" set to "0" (Manual). Wondering if D-RO set to On (+3) might impact this?

In my last photoshoot (Birthday / Indoor), nearly all the photos were very underexposed... It could just have been my eyes were adjusted to the lower light and it looked fine to me in the viewfinder. With my Tammy 20/2.8, I ended up shooting at F2.8 / ISO 1000-1600 / SS 200 simply as it looked fine to me in the EVF. Underexposed is certainly better than overexposed .

Thanks for the help.

What happens when you turn DRO off? And you haven't inadvertently set live view effect display off (sorry, had to ask just in case!)

Not a discernable difference in the EVF with DRO on/off. I tested this before posting but was curious if DRO changed the Jpeg output in a fashion not represented by the EVF.

Live view is on (no dumb questions lol... or I wouldn't have even posted this question!).


Thanks!

 

[Architeuthis]

Quick question.

In my Indoor / Low-Light photography, I keep having a rather large variance between the brightness my EVF is producing while shooting compared to the actual output Raw/Jpeg image.

I don't remember having such a disparity with my A7IV in low-light... is there a setting you can think of that might be creating this?

I have my EVF "Viewfinder Bright" set to "0" (Manual). Wondering if D-RO set to On (+3) might impact this?

In my last photoshoot (Birthday / Indoor), nearly all the photos were very underexposed... It could just have been my eyes were adjusted to the lower light and it looked fine to me in the viewfinder. With my Tammy 20/2.8, I ended up shooting at F2.8 / ISO 1000-1600 / SS 200 simply as it looked fine to me in the EVF. Underexposed is certainly better than overexposed .

Thanks for the help.

I had a similar problem with my A7R5, when I just had acquired it, that costed me a lot of photos for the first months. I think your problem maz be closely related, if not the same. When I reviewed the photos through the EVF, they looked well exposed. After transferring the raw files to the PC and importing into LRc, I found out that many photos were underexposed...

My problem was that the menue point "AUTO Viewfinder Brightness" is "ON" by default in the A7R5. After turning this menue item "OFF", everything is o.k. and I see the correct exposure of the photos in the EVF...

Look e.g. here and search for "AUTO Viewfinder Brightness" for the instructions how to turn it "OFF" (A7R5): The Complete Setup Guide for the Sony a7R V

As an alternative, I suggest you switch on the cameras histogram function and check, just after making the photo, whether it is well exposed...

Wolfgang

 

[RaysJ]

Using histogram or the zebras is better than the EVF. In darker rooms they could look fine but are underexposed. You can use histogram before taking the image or after. Once you have taken a few, you should not need to check all the time.

If shooting in Raw you will have more latitude.

 

[Handiworks]

I had a similar problem with my A7R5, when I just had acquired it, that costed me a lot of photos for the first months. I think your problem maz be closely related, if not the same. When I reviewed the photos through the EVF, they looked well exposed. After transferring the raw files to the PC and importing into LRc, I found out that many photos were underexposed...

My problem was that the menue point "AUTO Viewfinder Brightness" is "ON" by default in the A7R5. After turning this menue item "OFF", everything is o.k. and I see the correct exposure of the photos in the EVF...

I was hoping maybe that was the case! Nope, I'd already turned that to "Manual", set at "0". Maybe I should try it in Auto though.

Look e.g. here and search for "AUTO Viewfinder Brightness" for the instructions how to turn it "OFF" (A7R5): The Complete Setup Guide for the Sony a7R V

As an alternative, I suggest you switch on the cameras histogram function and check, just after making the photo, whether it is well exposed...

Definitely the way to go, I just never like the distraction in the VF, but I'd rather have my images more appropriately exposed.

Wolfgang

Thanks!

 

[Handiworks]

Using histogram or the zebras is better than the EVF. In darker rooms they could look fine but are underexposed. You can use histogram before taking the image or after. Once you have taken a few, you should not need to check all the time.

If shooting in Raw you will have more latitude.

If my shooting sites were not so dynamic it would be a bit easier. In our house, the main "great room" where life happens, has very varied light sources. Sunk cans, "Benjamin" retro lights, wall-length windows, etc. I'm having to constantly adjust the Triangle.




I usually get pretty close to the ball-park intended but the last 2 times, the majority of the images were underexposed... this included a large indoor event at our church, which also has tricky light sources. I did not have the same issue with my A7IV, and am still learning the differences with the A7RV (which does not have the best low-light perf).

Always in RAW! Though I'd love to dial in the Jpegs so I don't have to (at least for personal, day-to-day shots). I'd love to see Sony implement Nikon's compression tech. Those compressed Z8/9 (.NEF) files are small!

 

[RealWorldPhoto]

Quick question.

In my Indoor / Low-Light photography, I keep having a rather large variance between the brightness my EVF is producing while shooting compared to the actual output Raw/Jpeg image.

I don't remember having such a disparity with my A7IV in low-light... is there a setting you can think of that might be creating this?

I have my EVF "Viewfinder Bright" set to "0" (Manual). Wondering if D-RO set to On (+3) might impact this?

In my last photoshoot (Birthday / Indoor), nearly all the photos were very underexposed... It could just have been my eyes were adjusted to the lower light and it looked fine to me in the viewfinder. With my Tammy 20/2.8, I ended up shooting at F2.8 / ISO 1000-1600 / SS 200 simply as it looked fine to me in the EVF. Underexposed is certainly better than overexposed .

Thanks for the help.

Just monitor the histogram. Our eyes are very selective when reporting light intensity, so don't trust them for evaluating exposure.

Perfect suggestion, Thanks. Funny enough I just finished watching 3 old histogram tutorials on YT lol (Steve Perry, Thaler etc.). I've never really used it much In-Camera just in PP. Time for to add a new habit.

God that the advice could be helpful. From my experience, it is easy to underexpose in low light/dark environment since the sceen/viewfinder looks so bright, caused by the eye's adaption to the low light level. This is the same for all digital cameras.