5DS/R 256gb card reader issues...

[CaptureIT]

My old USB2 card reader had troubles reading the Sandisk 256gb Extreme Pro card so baught the Sandisk Imagemate All-in-One SDDR-289 (USB3).

Waste of money. Formats 256gb card as 128gb. Formats fine in the camera of course but then won't read in the reader.

Gonna have to look into which readers will reach 256gb. Any experience ?.

Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

 

[photenth]

The 5DSR has USB 3 support, why not just use the cable?

 

[CameraCarl]

Some really old card readers can't read large or modern cards. For under $30 you can get a new card reader which should work with your card and write to the computer so much faster.

 

[CaptureIT]

A card reader can be much faster for downloading large shoots/movies.

Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

 

[CaptureIT]

Some really old card readers can't read large or modern cards. For under $30 you can get a new card reader which should work with your card and write to the computer so much faster.

It was new...Gonna have to speak to Sandisk.


Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

 

[photenth]

Really? The max reading speed of most CF cards are well below the USB 3.0 rate.

Lexar 64GB Professional 1066x for example has a max read out of 160MB/s and USB 3.0 can transfer at 640 MB/s (whereas USB 2.0 was around 60 MB/s)

Never thought about using a card reader since the limiting factor is really just the reading speed of the card.

 

[CameraCarl]

Some really old card readers can't read large or modern cards. For under $30 you can get a new card reader which should work with your card and write to the computer so much faster.

It was new...Gonna have to speak to Sandisk.

Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

Not a bad idea. I see they offer Live Chat.

 

[CaptureIT]

Really? The max reading speed of most CF cards are well below the USB 3.0 rate.

Lexar 64GB Professional 1066x for example has a max read out of 160MB/s and USB 3.0 can transfer at 640 MB/s (whereas USB 2.0 was around 60 MB/s)

Never thought about using a card reader since the limiting factor is really just the reading speed of the card.

Don't think the 5DS/r maxes out USB3. I'll do a test when i can get a fast reader that works with 256gb.


Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

 

[photenth]

That would be awesome, thanks in advance!

 

[AlephNull]

Really? The max reading speed of most CF cards are well below the USB 3.0 rate.

Lexar 64GB Professional 1066x for example has a max read out of 160MB/s and USB 3.0 can transfer at 640 MB/s (whereas USB 2.0 was around 60 MB/s)

Never thought about using a card reader since the limiting factor is really just the reading speed of the card.

I haven't used my 5Ds as a card reader, but using a card reader was a lot faster than reading the card with the camera with my previous bodies (including the D810, which is also USB 3).

I've read a full 32GB 1000x Lexar CF card at over 120MB/s for the entire card using a USB3 reader (writing to an SSD - if you were writing to a magnetic disk, that might be slower).

Besides, the card reader is powered by the USB bus, so I'm not flattening my camera's battery using it as a reader. I'd probably choose the reader even if the camera were just as fast

Have you found out whether the 5Ds/r can read the card as fast as a reader?

I can't help the OP with a 256GB SD card - I don't own any of those.

 

[Ellis Vener]

Some really old card readers can't read large or modern cards. For under $30 you can get a new card reader which should work with your card and write to the computer so much faster.

It was new...Gonna have to speak to Sandisk.

Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

Your issue sounds more like a computer issue than a card reader issue.

FWIW: i have no problem using 128 and 256GB Sandisk and Lexar CF media, mostly used in a 5DS, with a Hoodman Steel USB 3.0 card reader connected to a 27" Retina 5K iMac.

 

[photenth]

I'll give it a try this evening, will post results =)

 

[CaptureIT]

Sandisk live support in US shut me down as I'm in UK. Live support in EU didn't seem to understand my issue !.

Windows7 claims the 256GB card needs formatting (yet only offers 127gb). 'exFAT' is offered by default. The 5DSr happily formats to 256gb yet unable to easily fill the card to check 256gb is available.

Tried two card readers, a new Sandisk Imagemate All-in-one USB3 SDDR-289 and a USB2 Hama. Both exactly the same.

Yes i'm wondering if the card is a fake and only 128gb yet the camera happily formats 256gb !?. The card appears 100% genuine and Sandisk live support made no comment re it's serial number (had involvement with fakes before).

Off to do Win7 updates yet expect no change.....

Update, all win7 updates applied & PC restarted, still same.

Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1, RC-6, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

 

[photenth]

It is slower, only 30MB/s which is even slower than USB 2.0 so get a card reader if you want the highest speed =)

 

[AlephNull]

It is slower, only 30MB/s which is even slower than USB 2.0 so get a card reader if you want the highest speed =)

Thanks for trying it - that's good to know. Justifies owning a card reader.

 

[CaptureIT]

At last I have the answers....

The card reader needed a firmware update from Sandisk and is working with the 256gb now. Shame their help desk guys don't know what they are talking about. The update was to resolve 256gb Extreme Pro issues and various MAC problems.

So, speed test. 18.9gb of images and movies to and from an M2 SSD hard drive (much faster than standard SSD's - Read 2150MB/s, Write 1550MB/s).

Using the USB3 card reader....

Write 80mb/s

Read 116mb/s

Using the Camera's USB3 port....

Read 41.6mb/s (USB2 max !?!?)

So yes, a USB3 reader is VERY worthwhile for downloading big jobs (as usual). Almost 3 times faster. No doubt the 5DS/r USB3 port has been throttled to save battery power yet thought the USB3 cable would have supplied supporting power from the PC. Can't remember how fast the USB2 was on my old 5DIII....

Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1/RC-6, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

 

[Jon555]

BTW from:

Canon 5Ds SD and CF Card Speed Comparison Fastest Write Speed Tests for EOS 5Ds 5Ds R Digital Cameras - Camera Memory Speed Comparison & Performance tests for SD and CF cards

Write speed test of the Canon EOS 5Ds camera with SD and CF card comparison. Fastest and recommended memory cards for 5Ds and 5Ds R continuous shooting DSLR.

www.cameramemoryspeed.com

"The 5Ds has a USB 3.0 port that can be used to download images to a computer. Using fast CF and SD cards in the camera, the average speed was calculated transferring 5GB of images from the camera to a SSD drive on a computer. Using the Lexar 1066x 64 GB CF card, the transfer averaged 53.4 MB/s, while the SanDisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s 64GB UHS-I card averaged 65.4 MB/s."

(My bolding.)

They got 101 MB/s for the Lexar 1066x 64 GB in a card reader and 72 MB/s for the SanDisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s 64GB UHS-I card.

Oh and my guess would have been it needed a firmware update, but I see you got there already.

 

[CaptureIT]

I'll take real world experience over a websites results any day .....p.s. my camera's battery was full when doing the above tests.


Regards
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Formerly RichardE (heiwixivhx). Member since 2001.
Past - Various 35mm Film/slide, Fuji digitals, Canon D30, D60, 20D, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII.
Present - 5DSr, Sigma 50/1.4 DG A, Canon 24-70L f2.8 II, Canon RC-1/RC-6, 600EX-RT Flash, Rode Stereo Mic.

 

[photenth]

Fully agree, my results are at least somewhere in your ballpark. Didn't have a huge sample size since I only tested a 2GB download and I used an external port.

I'm pretty sure the camera can't deliver the full DL speed sadly but overall I don't really mind, there is never really pressure in downloading my images and I prefer to open/close the plastic flap instead of the cover that will probably see wear over time.