5D Mark IV initial specs?

[rrccad]

PWPhotography wrote:
No CFast? I want virtually unlimited RAWs in burst shooting. The spec missing critical burst rate, how many fps? Hope at least 8fps.

every single rumor since the dawn of time seemed to have suggested 8-10fps. 30mp should put that as being possible (5Ds at 30Mp is 8.33 with DiGiC 5's) as being 10fps with DiGiC 6+'s.

I'd be VERY surprised if it's not at least 8fps.

I think this will be a cracking body .. and in a way one of canon's answers to the D500 outside of pixel density on target.

 

[BlueRay2]

well, give it 3 more weeks and we will see it !! cant wait but still trying to decide mark 3, 5ds or new mark 4.

Just sold my mark 2 and waiting for an upgrade patiently...

i am in the same boat, can't make up my mind to go 5Dsr way or this 5D4. the 30MP sounds good but not there where i like it to be. i want as much MP as i can get my hands on so i still favor 5Dsr but wait till 5D4 comes out, first!

 

[JaimitoFrog]

Hope the new touch screen can work more like a smartphone, panning through consecutive shots, pinch to zoom etc.

I don't see why they cant add this type of function to 1DXII with a firmware upgrade.

 

[k-hito]

And is there anything about tilt screen?

 

[Jonathan Brady]

Hope the new touch screen can work more like a smartphone, panning through consecutive shots, pinch to zoom etc.

I don't see why they cant add this type of function to 1DXII with a firmware upgrade.

I agree that a fully functional touch screen should be implemented on all of Canon's cameras but I'm not sure why people think it's faster to scroll through images using a touch screen than the rear wheel (some do). Rotating the rear wheel scrolls through images faster than I can see them if that's what I want. As much as I wish it were true, I can't move my hands that fast on a touch screen. Now... a touch screen for panning around the image when zooming in to check focus, etc., YES! Definitely faster with a touch screen. Pinch to zoom, yes! Definitely faster, I agree!

 

[MayaTlab0]

I'd be VERY surprised if it's not at least 8fps.

Particularly since Canon's pathological obsession with product differentiation would most likely cement the 6DII's uncompetitive framerate vs. Nikon's D600/750 & Co if the 5DIV doesn't reach 8 fps.

One thing I'm wondering with 30mp, is what size of the sensor 4K footage will use.

 

[Nobby2016]

i have tested the 5d mk4 for 3 month now and it has some great hybrid viewfinder.

search patents from the past to get a hint...

 

[Gnocchi]

Is the lens in the photo a 85 1.2?

hope it's a new 50!

 

[Sharlin]

is a marketing mistake.

Sure, about half the people who have voiced their opinion couldn't care less about anything past 28 Mpix (many would prefer 24 if that gives faster fps), but I'm sure you know Canon's target audience better than they do.

 

[Winterfrost]

first sign that the Japanese wall which is Canon preventing leaks has been breached? perhaps?

30MP
compact flash
24/30fps @ 4k
120fps 1080
240fps 720
USB 3.0
cable release, more touchscreen UI, ergonomic changes..

http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-specifications-and-image/

there was an image, it was pulled .. however it certainly showed a unique Canon camera pentaprism housing.

30MP makes alot of sense IMO

the rest of the specs are no brainers.
now what did they put into that pentaprism housing to make it that much bigger?

Being looking at this - the 1st thing which comes into my mind is my original 5D, which does have a similar Pentaprism Housing...it just seems that the 5D Mk. IV is something lighter, more "compressed" from the Body size, i'd guess....

Marc

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"The Best Camera is the One That's with You" ~ Chase Jarvis

 

[Nobby2016]

it just seems that the 5D Mk. IV is something lighter, more "compressed" from the Body size, i'd guess....

as was reported a few times.

the 5D Mk4 will be a bit smaller than the 5D MK3.

 

[entoman]

I'd LIKE to think that the picture is of a genuine 5DMkiv and that the big bulge conceals the workings of a hybrid optical/EVF incorporating a histogram, but I think it's far more likely to just contain a built-in flash. Look closely and you can even make out the "join" where the flash unit meets the prism housing.

I DON'T believe the "5DMkiv" logo. It looks like a poor Photoshop pasting and is in a slightly different style and position from other 5 series cameras.

It's also quite possible that the body in the photo is a 6DMkii, not a 5DMkiv. The 5 will be launched first, but the 6 will follow very soon afterwards. Canon have stiff competition from Nikon and really need to get both cameras to the market as quickly as possible. They will also have noted that Nikon and Sony production at the moment is minimal due to the earthquake that hit the Sony sensor factory, and must be aware that they could capitalise on the potential shortage of Nikons in the near future.

 

[Nobby2016]

shortage? where?

when i look at our local stores here in europe there is no shortage.
i just was at a media markt today and they had plenty of A7 and A6300 cameras sitting around.

when i look at online retailers i can buy any camera i want, they are in stock.

with the demand so low i wonder where this shortage rumors come from?

 

[JackM]

Maybe, maybe not. I hear you, but 30mp could also be marketed as having less noise and maybe even better DR than a 36mp sensor. Also, I think just having that first digit as a "3" instead of a "2" is going to do a lot to make people think it's not significantly less than 36. People think $19.95 is more affordable than $20. 28mp would definitely be a marketing mistake. The practical difference between 30mp and 36mp is insignificant anyway.

Canon probably also wants to leave a resolution gap between the 5D4 and the 5DS. If the 5D4 is 36mp, and with its presumed DR advantage, a lot of landscapers might not go for the 5DS anymore.

 

[JackM]

No AA filter, minimum 8fps, preferably 10.

Pretty sure I'm in though. I agree about 30mp as opposed to 28, but I'd probably prefer 36. 30 will be fine though.

With the presumed DR improvement, this is going to be one sweet camera. Also the well-damped mirror/shutter from the 7D2 and the recent AF advances will be welcome. Funny how when I got my 5D3 four years ago I thought it was perfect and that I'd have it for about 10 years.

 

[MayaTlab0]

Look closely and you can even make out the "join" where the flash unit meets the prism housing.

Or it could simply be a joint because the top of the prism uses a different material (plastic) for Wifi (and bluetooth ?).

BTW, would an integrated flash radio system be interesting to some people here ? It could help with combining Canon speedlights and other brands, and create an additional competitive advantage for the former (unless Canon design the internal radio trigger to be open and usable by other brands via an app, that would be downloaded from the camera's app store).

 

[Nobby2016]

spatial resolution wise 6MP is nearly nothing.

image resolution is not a linear measurement as we all know.
to double spatial resolution of a sensor you have to quadruple the megapixel number.

36 MP would be ok for me, thought i see that it would kick the 5D MK4 out of the comfort zone for some who don´t need so many megapixel.

the 5D series for me is the perfect allrounder.

the D810 is not, it´s better for landscapes.. but not as good as an allrounder.

 

[Canonanano]

Maybe, maybe not. I hear you, but 30mp could also be marketed as having less noise and maybe even better DR than a 36mp sensor. Also, I think just having that first digit as a "3" instead of a "2" is going to do a lot to make people think it's not significantly less than 36. People think $19.95 is more affordable than $20. 28mp would definitely be a marketing mistake. The practical difference between 30mp and 36mp is insignificant anyway.

Canon probably also wants to leave a resolution gap between the 5D4 and the 5DS. If the 5D4 is 36mp, and with its presumed DR advantage, a lot of landscapers might not go for the 5DS anymore.

Since 5D Mark3 and 5Ds series the 5DMarkX line of models has been about speed. More Mp equals less speed. You got to choose or buy both. There already is 50Mp model. I think 5D4 will be 8fps @ 30Mp. 10 fps @ 50Mp would be nicer but got to realistic here.

 

[Nobby2016]

no it would not be nicer.

because the majority of the potential 5D MK4 owners don´t need or want 50MP.

im pretty sure the 5D MK4 with 50MP would sell worse than a 30MP modell.

 

[Landscapeforfun]

30 MP is nice, hopefully the 6D II comes in between 24-28 MP. The lack of CFast is a little concerning. Canon used to be the ones that knew when it was time to ditch outdated useless technology in favor of making progress. I guess those days are gone. I could really care less about video though so in the end it isn't a huge deal. Mostly interested in noise and DR.