Any experience with LP-E17 battery and alternative (R8/RP)?

I’ve been using these with my R10 for the past couple of months. So far so good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09YM23WDL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

ENEGON LP E17:

"capacity:1500mAh" is technically impossible for that form factor.

regards.

Guenther_Film wrote:

ENEGON LP E17:

"capacity:1500mAh" is technically impossible for that form factor.

regards.

Yes, that’s par for the course for third party batteries.”, they always seriously exaggerate.  The good news is that so far they are getting about the same number of shots as the canon battery and I can charge them with just a USB-c cable.

I got this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08P1DHL1X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Works without errors with Canon EOS RP. It is detected as a DR-E18 Canon DC Coupler ("dummy battery") and not as a battery. Consequently, it doesn't give any warning when battery gets low - just says "Replace the battery" when battery is depleted. Charges via USB-C (has both Micro-USB and USB-C connectors).

Artman charger charges OEM LP-E17 batteries from Canon. *** However, the opposite is not true: Artman batteries cannot be charged by Canon charger - when you put Artman battery in Canon charger the LED on Canon charger doesn't light up. ***

koenkooi wrote:

When I looked around, I could only find ‘partially decided’ batteries ...

I do have one fully decoded LP E-17; Patona Platinum series, wo. USB-loading. They were sold immediately, and I've never seen those since 2021. Show battery level in M3.

BirdShooter7 wrote:

I’ve been using these with my R10 for the past couple of months. So far so good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09YM23WDL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Do these show battery life correctly on the camera?

I bought a similar style battery from Neewer for my R.  The USBC charging directly on the battery is a great idea I think.

jwilliams wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

I’ve been using these with my R10 for the past couple of months. So far so good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09YM23WDL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Do these show battery life correctly on the camera?

I bought a similar style battery from Neewer for my R. The USBC charging directly on the battery is a great idea I think.

No, unfortunately they don’t.  So far I haven’t been able to find an aftermarket substitute that does

BirdShooter7 wrote:

jwilliams wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

I’ve been using these with my R10 for the past couple of months. So far so good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09YM23WDL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Do these show battery life correctly on the camera?

I bought a similar style battery from Neewer for my R. The USBC charging directly on the battery is a great idea I think.

No, unfortunately they don’t. So far I haven’t been able to find an aftermarket substitute that does

Bummer. Seems these LP-E17 batteries are more complicated than most batteries as far as being complete replacements.

Are there any LP-E17replacements that correctly show battery life and charge in camera or via USB like those?

I think this might be the time I just pony up the money and buy one factory new battery. Seems nobody has really cracked the code for duplicating these.

BTW, the Newer battery with USB charging you recommended works great in my R.

BirdShooter7 wrote:

I’ve been using these with my R10 for the past couple of months. So far so good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09YM23WDL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I bought 2 of the above referenced batteries.  They work in my RP and a M5.  In the M5 there is no battery indication at all.  In the RP they show a full battery initially but the battery meter doesn't work.  It goes from showing full to the camera suddenly quitting.

So they work, but you have no idea when they are about to run out of juice.  I'll just use them for emergencies.  I don't do video or shoot a lot of shots in a day so a freshly charged battery usually lasts the day.  I'll use the Canon battery normally and if I do run out I'll be sure to have one of these charged in my bag for times like that.

jwilliams wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

I’ve been using these with my R10 for the past couple of months. So far so good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09YM23WDL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I bought 2 of the above referenced batteries. They work in my RP and a M5. In the M5 there is no battery indication at all. In the RP they show a full battery initially but the battery meter doesn't work. It goes from showing full to the camera suddenly quitting.

Yes, same here.  Not ideal but I’ve not found a 3rd party battery (LP-E17) where the battery level indicator works properly.

So they work, but you have no idea when they are about to run out of juice. I'll just use them for emergencies. I don't do video or shoot a lot of shots in a day so a freshly charged battery usually lasts the day. I'll use the Canon battery normally and if I do run out I'll be sure to have one of these charged in my bag for times like that.

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Solinthor wrote:

Hi

I bought 2 of the above referenced batteries. They work in my RP and a M5. In the M5 there is no battery indication at all. In the RP they show a full battery initially but the battery meter doesn't work. It goes from showing full to the camera suddenly quitting.

So they work, but you have no idea when they are about to run out of juice. I'll just use them for emergencies. I don't do video or shoot a lot of shots in a day so a freshly charged battery usually lasts the day. I'll use the Canon battery normally and if I do run out I'll be sure to have one of these charged in my bag for times like that.

From what I read, I think I will go for a Canon one as primary back-up and a cheap one as secondary back-up.

I think having the charge indicator is quite mandatory with such a small battery, at least for the first two (main & primary back-up),

After that, if I am still using the camera and have to use the third battery the same day, I do not think the charge indicator will be needed at this state.

Thanks

Yes definitely the OEM batteries are best, especially for the battery indicator reason.  For me, the good thing about the LP-E17’s is that they are very small physically so I can carry the second one in my pocket without really feeling it so when the first battery dies I can swap it out very quickly.  It works for me but definitely won’t work for everyone.

Solinthor wrote:

Hi

I bought 2 of the above referenced batteries. They work in my RP and a M5. In the M5 there is no battery indication at all. In the RP they show a full battery initially but the battery meter doesn't work. It goes from showing full to the camera suddenly quitting.

So they work, but you have no idea when they are about to run out of juice. I'll just use them for emergencies. I don't do video or shoot a lot of shots in a day so a freshly charged battery usually lasts the day. I'll use the Canon battery normally and if I do run out I'll be sure to have one of these charged in my bag for times like that.

From what I read, I think I will go for a Canon one as primary back-up and a cheap one as secondary back-up.

I think having the charge indicator is quite mandatory with such a small battery, at least for the first two (main & primary back-up),

After that, if I am still using the camera and have to use the third battery the same day, I do not think the charge indicator will be needed at this state.

Thanks

Yeah, they're unfortunately mostly good for emergency use.  For me I rarely use up a battery in a day and I've never burnt thru 2 and needed third so If I just use the Canon battery as the primary then one of these can be my emergency backup.

Too bad nobody seems to be able to figure out the electronics for these batteries.  The USBC charging right on the battery is nice and these particular ones come in a 2 pack with a USBA to dual USBC connector cable so you can charge both at one time.

For backup and emergency use they are OK,.