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R10 or R7 for travel photography?

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Franz Weber
Franz Weber Contributing Member • Posts: 675
R10 or R7 for travel photography?

Hi all,

I am currently in the marked for a APSC travel camera. I am thinking of R10 vs R7.

R7 advantages:

  • bigger battery
  • bigger viewfinder
  • IBIS
  • bigger grip (I have large hands).
  • more resolution

R10 advantages:

  • smaller
  • lighter
  • inbuilt flash (I like that)
  • less expensive

I have played a bit in a store with a R10 and liked it a lot, except for the loud annoying shutter sound. The R6 in that shop was way quieter and more pleasing to my ears

Has anyone experience regarding the shutter sound with both of them (R7 vs R10)?

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sushipep Regular Member • Posts: 113
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Can confirm that the R6's shutter is quiet compared to both the M50 and the RP.

I don't have personal experiences with either but the R7's (and the R8's) seem to be quite loud as well.

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Henrm New Member • Posts: 10
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I love the R7 and I think it would be a good travel camera (don’t forget that it has some amount of weather sealing).  The shutter sound is loud however.. definitely louder than the R6

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Franz Weber
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Re: R10 or R7 for travel photography?

Henrm wrote:

I love the R7 and I think it would be a good travel camera (don’t forget that it has some amount of weather sealing). The shutter sound is loud however.. definitely louder than the R6

Good point with the weather sealing. Have not considered up till now!

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Alastair Norcross
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Some people do complain about the R7's shutter sound. I have no problem with it, but I can confirm that it is louder than the R6II. For most purposes, e-shutter, which can be completely silent, or accompanied by a beep (you set the volume), works really well. With certain kinds of indoor lighting, it can produce banding, but it's easy to check (just take a picture and review it on the screen or EVF). You can also get some rolling shutter distortion with certain types of movement (depending on both speed and angle of movement). Again, it's easy to tell when that's likely to happen, and switch to EFCS or full mechanical instead. For travel, I wouldn't be surprised if you can use e-shutter all the time.

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koenkooi Contributing Member • Posts: 919
Re: R10 or R7 for travel photography?
  1. Franz Weber wrote:

Hi all,

I am currently in the marked for a APSC travel camera. I am thinking of R10 vs R7.

R7 advantages:

  • bigger battery
  • bigger viewfinder
  • IBIS
  • bigger grip (I have large hands).
  • more resolution

R10 advantages:

  • smaller
  • lighter
  • inbuilt flash (I like that)
  • less expensive

[…]

Personally, when comparing the R7 and R10 last year, I found the R10 too expensive for what it is. The R50 gets a lot closer to the price/performance ratio of the R7, provided you can live with the pinhole pretending to be an EVF.

This is all very subjective, in the end I picked neither and the upcoming R8 seems to be a better fit, for me.

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John Photo Senior Member • Posts: 1,371
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Of those two and if the price difference is not an issue, I would definitely go for the R7, which I actually did. Many benefits have been pointed out by others. One thing that was also a factor in my decision was that the R7 uses the same battery as my R6 so it provided me more flexibility in that regard. And as already mentioned, I would think most travel shooting could be down with the silent ES.

I have to ask though, why are you considering going to Canon (your gear list shows other brands)? Nothing wrong with it; just curious.

KevinRA Senior Member • Posts: 1,457
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koenkooi wrote:

  1. Franz Weber wrote:

Hi all,

I am currently in the marked for a APSC travel camera. I am thinking of R10 vs R7.

R7 advantages:

  • bigger battery
  • bigger viewfinder
  • IBIS
  • bigger grip (I have large hands).
  • more resolution

R10 advantages:

  • smaller
  • lighter
  • inbuilt flash (I like that)
  • less expensive

[…]

Personally, when comparing the R7 and R10 last year, I found the R10 too expensive for what it is. The R50 gets a lot closer to the price/performance ratio of the R7, provided you can live with the pinhole pretending to be an EVF.

So in UK £10 / $12US between R50 and R10 - R10 I think offers substantial benefits - much closer in spec to R7

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KevinRA Senior Member • Posts: 1,457
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Franz Weber wrote:

Hi all,

I am currently in the marked for a APSC travel camera. I am thinking of R10 vs R7.

R7 advantages:

  • bigger battery
  • bigger viewfinder
  • IBIS
  • bigger grip (I have large hands).
  • more resolution

R10 advantages:

  • smaller
  • lighter
  • inbuilt flash (I like that)
  • less expensive

I have played a bit in a store with a R10 and liked it a lot, except for the loud annoying shutter sound. The R6 in that shop was way quieter and more pleasing to my ears

Has anyone experience regarding the shutter sound with both of them (R7 vs R10)?

Shutter sound very similar

You have the pros and cons about right - the R10 is an absolutely cracking little camera - and if I took only one for “travel” it would be this camera in my kit or my M6II

R7 also has more advanced video options

Ergonmics- prefer R10 except on big lenses

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koenkooi Contributing Member • Posts: 919
Re: R10 or R7 for travel photography?

KevinRA wrote:

koenkooi wrote:

  1. Franz Weber wrote:

Hi all,

I am currently in the marked for a APSC travel camera. I am thinking of R10 vs R7.

R7 advantages:

  • bigger battery
  • bigger viewfinder
  • IBIS
  • bigger grip (I have large hands).
  • more resolution

R10 advantages:

  • smaller
  • lighter
  • inbuilt flash (I like that)
  • less expensive

[…]

Personally, when comparing the R7 and R10 last year, I found the R10 too expensive for what it is. The R50 gets a lot closer to the price/performance ratio of the R7, provided you can live with the pinhole pretending to be an EVF.

So in UK £10 / $12US between R50 and R10 - R10 I think offers substantial benefits - much closer in spec to R7

Over here it’s €840 for the R50 and €1080 for the R10. With only 10GBP difference it’d pick the R10 as well.

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EI4KN New Member • Posts: 3
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I'm currently in Lisbon with my R10 and RF-S 18-45 lens.  The last time I travelled there I used a 5D mk III and Tamron 24-70.  The R10 is so light compared to my previous setup although I am finding the lens is not quite wide enough.  I've taken some nice shots on the streets including some street performers where the eye tracking worked nicely in a crowded situation.  A have a power bank with me in case I need to recharge but battery life has been fine so far.

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Franz Weber
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John Photo wrote:

Of those two and if the price difference is not an issue, I would definitely go for the R7, which I actually did. Many benefits have been pointed out by others. One thing that was also a factor in my decision was that the R7 uses the same battery as my R6 so it provided me more flexibility in that regard. And as already mentioned, I would think most travel shooting could be down with the silent ES.

I have to ask though, why are you considering going to Canon (your gear list shows other brands)? Nothing wrong with it; just curious.

Hi John,

Nikon has a sub par slower autofocus system that doesn’t work on the whole imaging area. This applies to all cameras but the most expensive Z9. My Olympus doesn’t give me pleasing skintones in shadows (grey green tint).

So I am planing a switch to Canon to a R6II and R7 or R10 combo.

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tsinvest
tsinvest Senior Member • Posts: 1,600
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Hi Franz,

Having both the R7 and R10 I would take the R10 for most travel, especially if I want to keep on the lighter side.  The RF 18-150mm lens is quite good however you may want to step it up and get something that may give you sharper images.  I do think the RF 18-150 would be enough for most situations however.  The R7 is heavier than the R10 so it may not be great for travel.  I'm over 70 however and like to keep my setup for travel on the lighter side.

Good luck, Tom

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tsinvest wrote:

Hi Franz,

Having both the R7 and R10 I would take the R10 for most travel, especially if I want to keep on the lighter side. The RF 18-150mm lens is quite good however you may want to step it up and get something that may give you sharper images. I do think the RF 18-150 would be enough for most situations however. The R7 is heavier than the R10 so it may not be great for travel. I'm over 70 however and like to keep my setup for travel on the lighter side.

Good luck, Tom

+10 for the light R10 for travel!  I've been quite impressed with it (a co-worker of mine has one).  Small, yet very capable and it has a comfortable grip if you want to use larger lenses on it (than the kit).

I own the R7 and can testify to its quality and capabilities too.  IBIS is a nice feature, but if you're using Canon's lenses with ILIS, stabilization is excellent even without IBIS.

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migla9 Regular Member • Posts: 383
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I'm considering moving on from my 60D to the R10 and assumed it would be much quieter without the mirror.  Unfortunately, I don't have a store available to try it hand-on.  How does the loudness of the R10 compare to a DSLR?

Also, since I would be using my current EF-S lenses for now (18-135, 55-250), I'm looking at the EF-RF adapters.  For non-pro use, would it be worthwhile  spending extra for the control ring version when using it on the R10, or are the body controls adequate?  Do RF lenses have this control ring?

KevinRA Senior Member • Posts: 1,457
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migla9 wrote:

I'm considering moving on from my 60D to the R10 and assumed it would be much quieter without the mirror. Unfortunately, I don't have a store available to try it hand-on. How does the loudness of the R10 compare to a DSLR?

Also, since I would be using my current EF-S lenses for now (18-135, 55-250), I'm looking at the EF-RF adapters. For non-pro use, would it be worthwhile spending extra for the control ring version when using it on the R10, or are the body controls adequate? Do RF lenses have this control ring?

In mechanical or first curtain electronic - quite similar to a dslr

Electronic shutter is of course silent but rolling shutter is there for fast moving subjects plus banding can sometimes occur in artificial lighting.

I don’t think you will need the control ring adapter coming from a 60D

I would prefer 3 control dials like on M6ll and R5 which I owned first - but have workarounds - using auto iso more and more now. Plus the buttons on R10 readily customisable

R7 of only has 2 too

R10 does have joystick and AFon which great plus the button set to initiate the amazing eye AF

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migla9 Regular Member • Posts: 383
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Thanks, Kevin.

For film cameras, there is quite a difference in shutter sound levels between rangefinders and SLRs, mostly attributable to the mirror movement.  I was expecting a similar difference moving to mirrorless digital, but I guess not.

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