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R5 or R5 mark II

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drsnoopy Senior Member • Posts: 1,216
Re: R5 or R5 mark II

Canon_Guy wrote:

Unless you really need the extra Mpix count for really large prints I would go for R6 mkII. It is better camera in most aspects than the R5 except the resolution and you can have it "now" unlike the R5 mkII.

I think most people would have been happier if the R6ii had 30MP.  30MP seemed optimal in the 5D4 and R, especially for landscape.  I know the 1DX ii and iii had 24MP and were popular for sports and wildlife, but often used with expensive big whites, filling the frame with the subject.  Any cropping soon exposes the limitations of 24MP.  Personally I’m very happy with the R5’s 45MP, both for landscape (high resolution) and wildlife (100-500, cropping if needed is no problem).

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sercheese Junior Member • Posts: 47
Re: R5 or R5 mark II

You said, you already have a R6 Mk II. So the interesting question is, why have you chosen a R6 Mk II over the R5 Mk I in the first place? I was also eager to wait for R5 Mk II, but as I heard it was yet postponed till 2024 I've decided to buy R6 Mk II now. And till the R5 Mk II comes, you can use your R6 Mk II with stellar AF. And then decide if the R5 Mk II brings something what's appealing to you. It can be 6 months, it can be 10 months, etc.
I think we both have in common, that we want the newest tech. If my statement is true, I could imagine you having a buyer's regret, buying a 3 years old camera (although with superior updates with the newest firmware). I don't ask if you need those 45 MP over 24 MP, as I am sure, someone already asked this question

MarshallG
MarshallG Veteran Member • Posts: 8,951
Re: R5 or R5 mark II

Canon_Guy wrote:

Unless you really need the extra Mpix count for really large prints I would go for R6 mkII. It is better camera in most aspects than the R5 except the resolution and you can have it "now" unlike the R5 mkII.

The R5 also has a better quality electronic viewfinder.

Myself, I find the 45 megapixels of the R5 a big struggle. I enjoyed the 32 mp resolution of the 5D Mark IV a lot. It was a big uptick from the 7D and 7D a mark II I had prior. It let me crop to produce better images with high quality, and when your subject moves, I think you’ll always need to crop in post.

But 45 mp is very hard on my image editors. It makes the process very slow, even though I upgraded to the fastest MacBook Pro available at the time.

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sercheese Junior Member • Posts: 47
Re: R5 or R5 mark II

KiloHotelphoto wrote:

Buy now, an R5 II will not be out for a while.

The R6 was first released with the old 1DX3 sensor and the R6II got a new sensor. The R5 was first released with a brand new sensor so they wont update it for some time.

Are there more informations about the newly developed sensor in R6 Mk II? I only found the news which states it's new and has 4 MP more, but I don't really saw more tech informations, what's better in the new sensor over the old one.

Basil Fawlty
Basil Fawlty Regular Member • Posts: 237
Re: R5 or R5 mark II

drsnoopy wrote:

Canon_Guy wrote:

Unless you really need the extra Mpix count for really large prints I would go for R6 mkII. It is better camera in most aspects than the R5 except the resolution and you can have it "now" unlike the R5 mkII.

I think most people would have been happier if the R6ii had 30MP. 30MP seemed optimal in the 5D4 and R, especially for landscape. I know the 1DX ii and iii had 24MP and were popular for sports and wildlife, but often used with expensive big whites, filling the frame with the subject. Any cropping soon exposes the limitations of 24MP. Personally I’m very happy with the R5’s 45MP, both for landscape (high resolution) and wildlife (100-500, cropping if needed is no problem).

I actually had the R6 Mark ii with the RF 24-105 L in my cart at B&H ready to buy it when something told me to go look at the R5 page one more time. As much as I loved the idea of 45 MP, I just could not bring myself to justify the very large additional cost. But then, as I went to the R5 page, I noticed that they had just put up a lightly used R5 (9+ condition) with the same lens in their "more buying choices" section. This lightly used R5 was still more than the R6ii, but not as much more (I think the kit was about $450 more). At that point, I knew if I was ever going to get an R5 this was the time, so I quickly put this R5 in my cart and deleted the R6ii. Had the R6ii been 30MP, like my much loved 5DIV, I likely would have gone ahead an bought the R6ii.

I was extremely happy with the condition of the R5 when it arrived. It was like new. The only minor issues were the fact that the camera came with the older LP-E6N battery which was nearly dead, and didn't have the cable or cable holder that would be packed with a new R5 camera. I sent B&H a note asking about this and to my delight, they immediately sent me a new LP-E6NH and also the cable at no charge.

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David Hull
David Hull Veteran Member • Posts: 6,831
Re: R5 or R5 mark II

Boomer1967 wrote:

Ok guys,

i need your help…

i buy now R5 or I wait for R5 mark II?

i understand the last update give to R5 more power but when I saw the evolution of R6 with mark II…I’m not sure if the firmware update is enough ?

Trouble is, as long as you keep waiting you won't have the camera. Might as well get on the train and start learning the camera -- its control structure is a bit different from the others (like the R6). You can always peddle the R5 when the Mark II comes out or keep it as a backup. The resale will be pretty good on the R5.

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Basil Fawlty
Basil Fawlty Regular Member • Posts: 237
Re: R5 or R5 mark II

drsnoopy wrote:

Of course the R5 “Classic” (you saw it here first!) will stop taking good photographs the moment the R5 mk ii is announced…

LOL!  Doesn't that happen every time a new model come out?

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