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Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

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Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

Some of you may know I have been looking to add a third body to my gear.  I currently have an R5 and an R7.  What it is coming down to is that I like to keep the RF100-500 on my R7 for quick bird shots when the opportunity strikes.  My R5 I use more for landscapes and more as a general camera.  The thing is there are times I want to use my R7 with the RF70-200 and even the RF 18-150.  It does a great job with both of those lenses.  Now, call me lazy, but I hate to always have to switch out the RF100-500 from the R7 especially if a bird shot presents itself.  By the time I switch back lenses the bird is gone.

I really want the convenience of having three bodies setup as I will most likely need them with minimal lens switching.  I tried the R10 for this however it just didn't have the power of the R7.  I really don't see that the R8 or R6ii make sense, since I shoot a lot of birds.  So, logically it seems to make sense to add another R7 to my kit.  I am just having a pause about adding a second body of the same type, although in my mind it seems to make the most sense.  The cost isn't an issue, fortunately.

So any thoughts appreciated.  I guess I'm looking for a little push....   Thanks

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Re: Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

tsinvest wrote:

Some of you may know I have been looking to add a third body to my gear. I currently have an R5 and an R7. What it is coming down to is that I like to keep the RF100-500 on my R7 for quick bird shots when the opportunity strikes. My R5 I use more for landscapes and more as a general camera. The thing is there are times I want to use my R7 with the RF70-200 and even the RF 18-150. It does a great job with both of those lenses. Now, call me lazy, but I hate to always have to switch out the RF100-500 from the R7 especially if a bird shot presents itself. By the time I switch back lenses the bird is gone.

I really want the convenience of having three bodies setup as I will most likely need them with minimal lens switching. I tried the R10 for this however it just didn't have the power of the R7. I really don't see that the R8 or R6ii make sense, since I shoot a lot of birds. So, logically it seems to make sense to add another R7 to my kit. I am just having a pause about adding a second body of the same type, although in my mind it seems to make the most sense. The cost isn't an issue, fortunately.

So any thoughts appreciated. I guess I'm looking for a little push.... Thanks

I would go for the second R7 given your application.  Switching to new models means learning and intermixing rapidly the new models which in my case means more chance for screwups which may be you are immune to.

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Re: Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

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tsinvest wrote:

Some of you may know I have been looking to add a third body to my gear. I currently have an R5 and an R7. What it is coming down to is that I like to keep the RF100-500 on my R7 for quick bird shots when the opportunity strikes. My R5 I use more for landscapes and more as a general camera. The thing is there are times I want to use my R7 with the RF70-200 and even the RF 18-150. It does a great job with both of those lenses. Now, call me lazy, but I hate to always have to switch out the RF100-500 from the R7 especially if a bird shot presents itself. By the time I switch back lenses the bird is gone.

I really want the convenience of having three bodies setup as I will most likely need them with minimal lens switching. I tried the R10 for this however it just didn't have the power of the R7. I really don't see that the R8 or R6ii make sense, since I shoot a lot of birds. So, logically it seems to make sense to add another R7 to my kit. I am just having a pause about adding a second body of the same type, although in my mind it seems to make the most sense. The cost isn't an issue, fortunately.

So any thoughts appreciated. I guess I'm looking for a little push.... Thanks

I would go for the second R7 given your application. Switching to new models means learning and intermixing rapidly the new models which in my case means more chance for screwups which may be you are immune to.

Thanks for your thoughts…this is how I’m leaning at the moment.

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Re: Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

tsinvest wrote:

Some of you may know I have been looking to add a third body to my gear. I currently have an R5 and an R7. What it is coming down to is that I like to keep the RF100-500 on my R7 for quick bird shots when the opportunity strikes. My R5 I use more for landscapes and more as a general camera. The thing is there are times I want to use my R7 with the RF70-200 and even the RF 18-150.

I'm wondering if the 18-150mm is worth it to add another crop camera.

It does a great job with both of those lenses. Now, call me lazy, but I hate to always have to switch out the RF100-500 from the R7 especially if a bird shot presents itself. By the time I switch back lenses the bird is gone.

I really want the convenience of having three bodies setup as I will most likely need them with minimal lens switching.

I have one peak design capture on one backpack strap, and one peak design capture on the other. For me two cameras is the maximum.  When I need to carry three cameras there will be always too much hassle, even if I don't need to change lenses. What's your plan for managing three cameras?

I tried the R10 for this however it just didn't have the power of the R7. I really don't see that the R8 or R6ii make sense, since I shoot a lot of birds. So, logically it seems to make sense to add another R7 to my kit. I am just having a pause about adding a second body of the same type, although in my mind it seems to make the most sense. The cost isn't an issue, fortunately.

So any thoughts appreciated. I guess I'm looking for a little push.... Thanks

You could consider the 24-240mm for your R5. Folks are reporting the IQ of this lens is pretty good between 28 and 150mm or so. I think it will likely do a better job on your R5 compared to the 18-150mm on a (second) R7. At 160mm the 100-500 on the R7 can take over, so that solves any possible IQ issues at focal lengths longer than 160mm.

If cost isn't an issue and you really think a three camera setup will work for you I would add another R5 as that will give you the best IQ.   24-105mm on R5(A), 70-200mm on R5(B), and 100-500 on the R7.

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tsinvest wrote:

Some of you may know I have been looking to add a third body to my gear. I currently have an R5 and an R7. What it is coming down to is that I like to keep the RF100-500 on my R7 for quick bird shots when the opportunity strikes. My R5 I use more for landscapes and more as a general camera. The thing is there are times I want to use my R7 with the RF70-200 and even the RF 18-150. It does a great job with both of those lenses. Now, call me lazy, but I hate to always have to switch out the RF100-500 from the R7 especially if a bird shot presents itself. By the time I switch back lenses the bird is gone.

I really want the convenience of having three bodies setup as I will most likely need them with minimal lens switching. I tried the R10 for this however it just didn't have the power of the R7.

Interesting - I have the R5, R7 , R10 M6II - and the R10 for me fits my needs perfectly when shooting CRAW on a fast memory card - no issues. It does have a limited buffer on full raw + jpeg but really like it with same AF and controls (in fact prefer the controls on the R10 to the R7).

The R8 would be a no go for me as too slow and no AF joystick.

So for me in your case would be a R7 or a mint discounted dealer warranty R6 mark 1.

I really don't see that the R8 or R6ii make sense, since I shoot a lot of birds. So, logically it seems to make sense to add another R7 to my kit. I am just having a pause about adding a second body of the same type, although in my mind it seems to make the most sense.

The cost isn't an issue, fortunately.

So any thoughts appreciated. I guess I'm looking for a little push.... Thanks

Great - So suggest a 500 f/4 II - or even a RF 600 III 

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Re: Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

Seems to me like you already have a pretty ideal setup.  Juggling three camera/lens setups seems like more trouble than it’s worth to me.  I’d wait until Canon comes out with something more compelling.

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BirdShooter7 wrote:

Seems to me like you already have a pretty ideal setup. Juggling three camera/lens setups seems like more trouble than it’s worth to me. I’d wait until Canon comes out with something more compelling.

Know what you mean - but is why I have the light M6II and R10 - avoids dust and lens changes in the field

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Re: Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Seems to me like you already have a pretty ideal setup. Juggling three camera/lens setups seems like more trouble than it’s worth to me. I’d wait until Canon comes out with something more compelling.

This thought is probably what is making me hold off on doing anything yet.  You are the voice of reason that I need to hear.  Thanks

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Re: Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

KevinRA wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Seems to me like you already have a pretty ideal setup. Juggling three camera/lens setups seems like more trouble than it’s worth to me. I’d wait until Canon comes out with something more compelling.

Know what you mean - but is why I have the light M6II and R10 - avoids dust and lens changes in the field

Yes I also like to have two cameras handy and also frequently use the R10 for that purpose.

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tsinvest wrote:

Some of you may know I have been looking to add a third body to my gear. I currently have an R5 and an R7. What it is coming down to is that I like to keep the RF100-500 on my R7 for quick bird shots when the opportunity strikes. My R5 I use more for landscapes and more as a general camera. The thing is there are times I want to use my R7 with the RF70-200 and even the RF 18-150. It does a great job with both of those lenses. Now, call me lazy, but I hate to always have to switch out the RF100-500 from the R7 especially if a bird shot presents itself. By the time I switch back lenses the bird is gone.

I really want the convenience of having three bodies setup as I will most likely need them with minimal lens switching. I tried the R10 for this however it just didn't have the power of the R7. I really don't see that the R8 or R6ii make sense, since I shoot a lot of birds. So, logically it seems to make sense to add another R7 to my kit. I am just having a pause about adding a second body of the same type, although in my mind it seems to make the most sense. The cost isn't an issue, fortunately.

So any thoughts appreciated. I guess I'm looking for a little push.... Thanks

I’d say go for another R7.  It seems to be your sweet spot.

I sure like the convenience of having multiple bodies all set up and ready to go too.  For me, the R5 is the wildlife body (with 100-500 + 1.4x), the R7 shoots macros with the 100 (and you’re right, it does everything else darn well too), the R6 usually has the 24-105 (or a prime) on it, the R6ii is my workhorse (with 15-35, 28-70, 70-200), the M6 for low-res product shots for web, and the fun little M6ii (with a dozen M lenses) is my grab and go cam.

I may trade the R7 for the R8 this spring (since the 100 goes to 1.4:1).  The biggest thing I’d miss tho is the IBIS, but I usually have enough light for faster shutter speeds (LEDs or flash).

Certainly loving what Canon’s doing for me!

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So if I understand right. When you are out there on a spot, you have R7 with long tele to shoot birds and R5 with some WA to moderate tele zoom to have the versatility for general shooting.

And you want to add another camera to have another WA to mid tele zoom (18-150) for the same purpose as your R5?

Are you really missing some photos important to you with current setup or just a spring GAS came over you ?

I would consider rather buying interesting lenses than 3rd body.

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Re: Still undecided about a 3rd body...R7, R8 or R6ii

R2D2 wrote:

tsinvest wrote:

Some of you may know I have been looking to add a third body to my gear. I currently have an R5 and an R7. What it is coming down to is that I like to keep the RF100-500 on my R7 for quick bird shots when the opportunity strikes. My R5 I use more for landscapes and more as a general camera. The thing is there are times I want to use my R7 with the RF70-200 and even the RF 18-150. It does a great job with both of those lenses. Now, call me lazy, but I hate to always have to switch out the RF100-500 from the R7 especially if a bird shot presents itself. By the time I switch back lenses the bird is gone.

I really want the convenience of having three bodies setup as I will most likely need them with minimal lens switching. I tried the R10 for this however it just didn't have the power of the R7. I really don't see that the R8 or R6ii make sense, since I shoot a lot of birds. So, logically it seems to make sense to add another R7 to my kit. I am just having a pause about adding a second body of the same type, although in my mind it seems to make the most sense. The cost isn't an issue, fortunately.

So any thoughts appreciated. I guess I'm looking for a little push.... Thanks

I’d say go for another R7. It seems to be your sweet spot.

I sure like the convenience of having multiple bodies all set up and ready to go too. For me, the R5 is the wildlife body (with 100-500 + 1.4x), the R7 shoots macros with the 100 (and you’re right, it does everything else darn well too), the R6 usually has the 24-105 (or a prime) on it, the R6ii is my workhorse (with 15-35, 28-70, 70-200), the M6 for low-res product shots for web, and the fun little M6ii (with a dozen M lenses) is my grab and go cam.

You have me thinking here R2.  Maybe put the 100-500 on the R5 and use the R7 for my other lenses 24-105, 70-200, 100-400 etc.  The R5 and the R7 with the 100-500 do equally well, probably because of the extra MP of the R5.  THEN, wait a little while and pick up the R8 as my third body.  I like the fact that it is smaller and lighter than the R5 and R7 and this would afford me several options rather than adding another R7.

I may trade the R7 for the R8 this spring (since the 100 goes to 1.4:1). The biggest thing I’d miss tho is the IBIS, but I usually have enough light for faster shutter speeds (LEDs or flash).

I read a lot about the R8 and I like its size and weight.  The IBIS I can do without especially since most of my lenses have stabilization built into them.  The sample photos I've seen from the R8 are quite nice.  I would really like the option to have a lighter setup to use when wanted.  I may sit tight for a while and this may be a definite possibility.

Certainly loving what Canon’s doing for me!

Me too!  Coming from Nikon it is fun to be with Canon now.  They are so far ahead of Nikon and they just keep on coming out with lots of gear and options for their users.  Biggest thing for me with Canon is their excellent auto focus system, great for bird photography.

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So if I understand right. When you are out there on a spot, you have R7 with long tele to shoot birds and R5 with some WA to moderate tele zoom to have the versatility for general shooting.

Maybe I wasn't clear.  I usually only bring one setup when I go out to shoot since I usually know what I am going out to photograph.  I do a lot of shooting around my house however and this is where I have the convenience of grabbing the setup I want off the shelf with the lens already on the body.  I did this with my three Nikon bodies and it worked out very well.

And you want to add another camera to have another WA to mid tele zoom (18-150) for the same purpose as your R5?

Are you really missing some photos important to you with current setup or just a spring GAS came over you ?

I'm sure there is some GAS here, but that's what makes it fun, especially when we have so many options in the Canon line.  Hobbies are supposed to be fun and give us enjoyment.  And, I think there is always GAS involved in most hobbies.

I would consider rather buying interesting lenses than 3rd body.

Thanks for your thoughts, Tom

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