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Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

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jdominh Forum Member • Posts: 58
Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

Hi gents,

I am trying to find the best way to "save" a 29.97fps footage, converting it to a 23.976fps footage in Premiere Pro or DaVinci Resolve.

For now what I applied is the below:

*1/48s (or 1/50) shutter speed

*Interpret footage to 23.976fps

*Posterize Time Effect to 24fps (closest I could get to 23.976fps)

*Change speed of the interpreted footage to 29.97/23.976 = 125% (as the interpreted footage will play it at 80% speed)

*Frame Blending = Optical Flow

Anything else I should do to make it "look" as close as possible as if I natively filmed at 23.976fps to begin with? Would accelerating the footage that way with optical flow help with the dropped frames/jitter of the footage?

Thank you!

DMKAlex
DMKAlex Veteran Member • Posts: 6,721
Re: Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

For Premiere Pro, all you do is to create a 24 fps timeline and drop your 30 or 60 fps clip in there. It automatically convert them to 24 fps, with the option (flexibility) to slow down the speed. No special attention or work is needed.

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Sean Nelson
Sean Nelson Forum Pro • Posts: 16,109
Re: Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

jdominh wrote:

Anything else I should do to make it "look" as close as possible as if I natively filmed at 23.976fps to begin with? Would accelerating the footage that way with optical flow help with the dropped frames/jitter of the footage?

In Resolve, all you need to do is to create a 24fps timeline, drop your 29.97fps footage into it, and then use the retiming options in the Inspector Panel (on the Edit Page) to choose whether or how you want any frame interpolation to be done.

Using a "Retime Process" of "Optical Flow" (in the Retime and Scaling section of the Inspector Panel) turns on frame interpolation, where Resolve will attempt to create frames to "fill in" the gaps in cadence between the two frame rates.

You can then control how the interpolation is done this by choosing one of the "Motion Estimation" options. "Enhanced Better" generally does a decent job, but there are certain patterns that can confuse it and create rather wonky results - in particular I've found scenes with repeating linear features (picket fences, ladder rungs) whose inter-frame movement is close to their spacing can look pretty weird.

If you have the paid-for Studio version you can use "Speed Warp", which seems to solve that problem very well and generally gives me quite good results. It is CPU-intensive, though, and will make it pretty much impossible to scrub the footage. And it will take quite a long time to render compared to non-interpolated footage. I typically set the clip to "Enhanced Better" while editing and then switch it to "Speed Warp" when I'm ready to render.

Andrew S10 Senior Member • Posts: 1,839
Re: Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

Can you apply a 3:2 Pull Down to the other footage to bring it up to 29.97 FPS?

That should look better than dropping frames with Reverse Telecine to convert 29.97 FPS down to 23.976 PFS.

OP jdominh Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

Thank you but i believe this option makes the footage "look" like it was shot in higher frame rate ie too smooth. This is the option i use for slow mo indeed though

Gary3000 Senior Member • Posts: 1,510
Re: Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

jdominh wrote:

Thank you but i believe this option makes the footage "look" like it was shot in higher frame rate ie too smooth. This is the option i use for slow mo indeed though

Actually, the option will work,  (however he left out one key step)
 in Premiere , frame interpolation defaults to Frame Sampling.  with that left on, Premiere will merely sample from the 30fps footage over time.  How does it fit 30 frame a sec into 24 frames a sec?  by skipping every 5th frame. (dropping 20% of the frames), so what you'd see is 1,2,3,4. .6,7,8,9, , 11,12,13,14.  etc.   not quite ideal having missing frames,. but the eye might not notice.

But the missing key is that Premiere has additional options on how to deal with this in the Time Interpretation -> Frame Blending / Optical Flow options.
If you select frame blending, Premiere will combine frames,varying opacity, to more closely match the 24fps frame rate. 
If you select Optical Flow,  Premiere will morph frames as needed to more closely match 24fps.   The catch is that it might look funky when there's a lot of motion., but you should try that option first.

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Sean Nelson
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Re: Best way to convert a 30fps footage to 24fps footage in Premiere Pro / DaVinci Resolve

Gary3000 wrote:

If you select frame blending, Premiere will combine frames,varying opacity, to more closely match the 24fps frame rate.

Resolve has the option to do frame blending as well, but I avoid it.  In these days of the audience being able to freeze-frame or play in slow motion I find interpolated frames to be preferable.  I can't speak for the current versions of Premiere Pro, but the "Speed Warp" interpolation method in Resolve does a pretty good job in almost anything I've thrown at it.

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