Tamron 24-70 G2 on EOS R6: Does VC and IBIS work together?

Title says it all, but being more broad here, I'm looking to buy a 24-70 and since Tamron's EF is less than half the price of Canon's RF, I'm considering it.

TAMRON SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 has Vibration Control / Image Stabilization built in and it works well on EF cameras.

I couldn't find anything online that tested the lens on an R6 and its impact on IBIS, if it stacks or not, if only lens or only IBIS works or none.

Do any of you fellow photographers have any info on this?

I dont have that lens, but I have the 35-150 from Tamron and I can say ibis and lens VC are not working together, and I get better stabilisation only with ibis with other lenses in the range (sigma 35 and 85, canon 50 1.8, Tamron 17-35) than with the Tamron 35-150

Otto Sporteman wrote:

Title says it all, but being more broad here, I'm looking to buy a 24-70 and since Tamron's EF is less than half the price of Canon's RF, I'm considering it.

TAMRON SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 has Vibration Control / Image Stabilization built in and it works well on EF cameras.

I couldn't find anything online that tested the lens on an R6 and its impact on IBIS, if it stacks or not, if only lens or only IBIS works or none.

Do any of you fellow photographers have any info on this?

Hope someone can chime in with this lens.

The only Tamron that I have is the 100-400mm 4.5-6.3 di vc usd that I bought brand new in 2018 for my 5Ds. I recently got the R6MKII and tried this lens. Focusing was so-so. Then I only found out that there was a firmware upgrade on Feb. 2019. So I bought a Tap-In console and updated the firmware. Focusing is much better and fast. For IBIS, I can get up to 3 stops from 100-300mm but for 400mm best I could do is 2.5 stops. BTW, I turned on both VC and IBIS in the R6MKII.

Ephemeris wrote:

Is the thoughts behind the Tamron Vs the Canon EF the image stabilisation?

The EF II version is on the table, yes, if Tamron's VC doesn't influence anything on R6.

I live in Brazil, so I'd have official support and warranty on Canon, nothing on Tamron's.

Good news: I can answer this question for you.

Image stabilization on the stabilized RF cameras works like this. The chart comes from Canon.

All lenses used on the R6 can use some form of IS. The exact type that is offered depends on the lens.

The RF-series cameras' IBIS can stabilize along three axes: pitch/yaw, x/y and roll. Camera lenses can offer pitch/yaw (which Canon calls OIS) or pitch/yaw+x/y (which Canon calls hybrid IS). The same principles apply whether the lens is Canon-brand or a third-party lens. I can personally confirm this from owning Canon and Sigma EF lenses with IS built-in, and I've used a Tamron lens with IS (VC) as well and it works too.

Basically, the short of it is this:

RF or EF lens with no built-in stabilization. IBIS is used for all axes.
EF lens with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y).
Only for RF lenses with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y). In addition, the pitch/yaw correction is coordinated and so uses both IBIS and the optical stabilization simultaneously.

TL;DR. Stabilization works with all lenses, including yours. IBIS will handle axes that your lens does not stabilize internally, but since it is EF, the pitch/yaw axis will only be stabilized in the lens.

antonio-salieri wrote:

Good news: I can answer this question for you.

Image stabilization on the stabilized RF cameras works like this. The chart comes from Canon.

All lenses used on the R6 can use some form of IS. The exact type that is offered depends on the lens.

The RF-series cameras' IBIS can stabilize along three axes: pitch/yaw, x/y and roll. Camera lenses can offer pitch/yaw (which Canon calls OIS) or pitch/yaw+x/y (which Canon calls hybrid IS). The same principles apply whether the lens is Canon-brand or a third-party lens. I can personally confirm this from owning Canon and Sigma EF lenses with IS built-in, and I've used a Tamron lens with IS (VC) as well and it works too.

Basically, the short of it is this:

RF or EF lens with no built-in stabilization. IBIS is used for all axes.
EF lens with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y).
Only for RF lenses with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y). In addition, the pitch/yaw correction is coordinated and so uses both IBIS and the optical stabilization simultaneously.

TL;DR. Stabilization works with all lenses, including yours. IBIS will handle axes that your lens does not stabilize internally, but since it is EF, the pitch/yaw axis will only be stabilized in the lens.

Perhaps, but I believe the OP was asking about what Canon calls "coordinated control", and the table says that "coordinated control" only works with RF lenses.

I am skeptical as to whether there is really any IBIS benefit for Canon EF lenses with their own IS. Canon does not claim any "additional stops" of stabilization for any EF lens, regardless of what the chart suggests, whereas they do for some RF lenses.

I am not questioning your experience, maybe something is going on, albeit "uncoordinated". I do think Canon has done a pretty poor job of explaining how IBIS really works in conjunction with its own EF lenses, much less third-party lenses.

bodeswell wrote:

antonio-salieri wrote:

Good news: I can answer this question for you.

Image stabilization on the stabilized RF cameras works like this. The chart comes from Canon.

All lenses used on the R6 can use some form of IS. The exact type that is offered depends on the lens.

The RF-series cameras' IBIS can stabilize along three axes: pitch/yaw, x/y and roll. Camera lenses can offer pitch/yaw (which Canon calls OIS) or pitch/yaw+x/y (which Canon calls hybrid IS). The same principles apply whether the lens is Canon-brand or a third-party lens. I can personally confirm this from owning Canon and Sigma EF lenses with IS built-in, and I've used a Tamron lens with IS (VC) as well and it works too.

Basically, the short of it is this:

RF or EF lens with no built-in stabilization. IBIS is used for all axes.
EF lens with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y).
Only for RF lenses with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y). In addition, the pitch/yaw correction is coordinated and so uses both IBIS and the optical stabilization simultaneously.

TL;DR. Stabilization works with all lenses, including yours. IBIS will handle axes that your lens does not stabilize internally, but since it is EF, the pitch/yaw axis will only be stabilized in the lens.

Perhaps, but I believe the OP was asking about what Canon calls "coordinated control", and the table says that "coordinated control" only works with RF lenses.

I am skeptical as to whether there is really any IBIS benefit for Canon EF lenses with their own IS. Canon does not claim any "additional stops" of stabilization for any EF lens, regardless of what the chart suggests, whereas they do for some RF lenses.

I am not questioning your experience, maybe something is going on, albeit "uncoordinated". I do think Canon has done a pretty poor job of explaining how IBIS really works in conjunction with its own EF lenses, much less third-party lenses.

Well, OP asked pretty explicitly whether IS/VC worked at all. The answer is definitely yes, it does work. The OP also asked if the IBIS could work with it, and the answer is, a little bit, but not really. There may be a bit of a benefit depending on exactly how the camera is moving, but the VC overall should work about as well as it does on a DSLR. Of course, different lenses have different levels of potential stabilization.

antonio-salieri wrote:

bodeswell wrote:

antonio-salieri wrote:

Good news: I can answer this question for you.

Image stabilization on the stabilized RF cameras works like this. The chart comes from Canon.

All lenses used on the R6 can use some form of IS. The exact type that is offered depends on the lens.

The RF-series cameras' IBIS can stabilize along three axes: pitch/yaw, x/y and roll. Camera lenses can offer pitch/yaw (which Canon calls OIS) or pitch/yaw+x/y (which Canon calls hybrid IS). The same principles apply whether the lens is Canon-brand or a third-party lens. I can personally confirm this from owning Canon and Sigma EF lenses with IS built-in, and I've used a Tamron lens with IS (VC) as well and it works too.

Basically, the short of it is this:

RF or EF lens with no built-in stabilization. IBIS is used for all axes.
EF lens with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y).
Only for RF lenses with built-in stabilization. The stabilization built into the lens is used for the axis/axes that it supports, and IBIS is activated for the axes which the lens does not support itself (but in video mode, IBIS takes priority over the lens IS for X/Y). In addition, the pitch/yaw correction is coordinated and so uses both IBIS and the optical stabilization simultaneously.

TL;DR. Stabilization works with all lenses, including yours. IBIS will handle axes that your lens does not stabilize internally, but since it is EF, the pitch/yaw axis will only be stabilized in the lens.

Perhaps, but I believe the OP was asking about what Canon calls "coordinated control", and the table says that "coordinated control" only works with RF lenses.

I am skeptical as to whether there is really any IBIS benefit for Canon EF lenses with their own IS. Canon does not claim any "additional stops" of stabilization for any EF lens, regardless of what the chart suggests, whereas they do for some RF lenses.

I am not questioning your experience, maybe something is going on, albeit "uncoordinated". I do think Canon has done a pretty poor job of explaining how IBIS really works in conjunction with its own EF lenses, much less third-party lenses.

Well, OP asked pretty explicitly whether IS/VC worked at all. The answer is definitely yes, it does work. The OP also asked if the IBIS could work with it, and the answer is, a little bit, but not really. There may be a bit of a benefit depending on exactly how the camera is moving, but the VC overall should work about as well as it does on a DSLR. Of course, different lenses have different levels of potential stabilization.

I agree that the VC will work. I used to have the lens in question, and it worked fine on my R5.

Thank you for the detailed answer.

Given the other report of lock ups and firmware not being up to par for RF, I'll go with the EF II version and local support until I can get my budget up to a native RF.

Thanks, everyone who chimed in.