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Fujifilm xt100 still good ?

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mrkarisma Regular Member • Posts: 131
Re: Fujifilm xt100 still good ?
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zakaria wrote:

Hello .. I would like to ask a question to those who own the XT100 and use other types of Fujifilm such as the XT20. Do you find a big difference in colors rendering and sharpness? I'm not talking about anything other than the Jpeg file. Do you think the XT100 is better? Why am I asking that because I am in the process of buying a new XT100 at a good price. I have an XT3 and I have heard a lot of talk about the traditional Bayer sensors compared to the modified Fuji ones.

I will use the camera for static things and maybe with manual lenses.

If you are going to shoot landscapes and always shoot Raw - get the XT100. If you are going to shoot jpeg only and fast, like street photography - Get the XT20.

The raw files from the XT100 are amazing - but the camera is extremely slow, with a bit shutter lag when pressing the shutter (after the half-press) - the AF is horribly slow. The jpegs are a catastrophy compared to the X-trans sensor jpegs that XT20 produces.

I would go for the XT20 every day of the week.

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mrkarisma Regular Member • Posts: 131
Re: Fujifilm xt100 still good ?

WeirdSheep wrote:

.Most criticisms of the X100 were about it's speed of operation when it came out, these have long since been resolved.

Ehrm, N O P E! I have the latest firmware and NOTHING is resolved. Please get your facts right.

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mrkarisma Regular Member • Posts: 131
Re: Fujifilm xt100 still good ?
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WeirdSheep wrote:

and the XT100 is X-trans.

NOPE - its a bayer sensor with crappy jpegs, but AMAZING raw files - which is great for slow landscape photography or still life - but the camera is almost useless if you want "catch the moment" - its just too slow.

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Re: Fujifilm xt100 still good ?

mrkarisma wrote:

zakaria wrote:

Hello .. I would like to ask a question to those who own the XT100 and use other types of Fujifilm such as the XT20. Do you find a big difference in colors rendering and sharpness? I'm not talking about anything other than the Jpeg file. Do you think the XT100 is better? Why am I asking that because I am in the process of buying a new XT100 at a good price. I have an XT3 and I have heard a lot of talk about the traditional Bayer sensors compared to the modified Fuji ones.

I will use the camera for static things and maybe with manual lenses.

If you are going to shoot landscapes and always shoot Raw - get the XT100. If you are going to shoot jpeg only and fast, like street photography - Get the XT20.

The raw files from the XT100 are amazing - but the camera is extremely slow, with a bit shutter lag when pressing the shutter (after the half-press) - the AF is horribly slow. The jpegs are a catastrophy compared to the X-trans sensor jpegs that XT20 produces.

I would go for the XT20 every day of the week.

Thanks. It's so informative.

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The Ghost of Caravaggio Contributing Member • Posts: 985
Re: Fujifilm xt100 still good ?

The X100T is a great compact, fixed-lens camera. The OVF emulates a true rangefinder experience.[1] Using the OVF one can compose while observing what's outside the frame.[2].

The silver version has an advantage for candid photography. The leaf shutter is whisper quiet. You have a quiet shutter without the banding and motion artifacts that can plague rolling electronic shutters. People don't take any silver X100 seriously because of it's diminutive size. I have used them in venues that prohibited the use of DLSRs. I think security assumed it was a film camera.

In very low light I prefer to render raw files in B&W. I usually don't render color raw at ISO parameters above 800. I have no knowledge about in-camera JPEGs.

The X100 and X100T lenses do not perform well at extremely close subject to lens distances at apertures below F4. I don't know if this is the case for the X100T and V lenses.

The infamous X-Trans worm issue is almost always overstated. These artifacts are not an issue (especially in prints) in Lightroom Classic when sharpening parameters are set to 0 or atypically low. The X-100T pixel area is larger than most Bayer12 MP sensors and raw rendering requires very little, if any sharpening. What you observe with pixel peeping rarely appears in prints.

I think the X100T has two disadvantages compared to the F and V. Color signal-to-noise ratio in low light and significantly less cropping flexibility in post-production. This is not a camera for people who prefer to compose by cropping during post-production rendering instead of optimizing composition in real time before pressing the shutter. (Which brings us back to the advantage of having an OVF).

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1. Yes, I am aware it is a reverse Galian optical design and not an analog, optical rangefinder.

2. Yes, I am aware the OVF frame lines are just estimates. This is also true for all analog, optical rangefinder cameras including Leica M cameras (analog and digital). When precise framing is required, a flick of the finger brings up the X100 EVF.
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Fz2000user uk Senior Member • Posts: 1,509
Re: Fujifilm xt100 still good ?
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The Ghost of Caravaggio wrote:

The X100T is a great compact, fixed-lens camera. The OVF emulates a true rangefinder experience.[1] Using the OVF one can compose while observing what's outside the frame.[2].

The silver version has an advantage for candid photography. The leaf shutter is whisper quiet. You have a quiet shutter without the banding and motion artifacts that can plague rolling electronic shutters. People don't take any silver X100 seriously because of it's diminutive size. I have used them in venues that prohibited the use of DLSRs. I think security assumed it was a film camera.

In very low light I prefer to render raw files in B&W. I usually don't render color raw at ISO parameters above 800. I have no knowledge about in-camera JPEGs.

The X100 and X100T lenses do not perform well at extremely close subject to lens distances at apertures below F4. I don't know if this is the case for the X100T and V lenses.

The infamous X-Trans worm issue is almost always overstated. These artifacts are not an issue (especially in prints) in Lightroom Classic when sharpening parameters are set to 0 or atypically low. The X-100T pixel area is larger than most Bayer12 MP sensors and raw rendering requires very little, if any sharpening. What you observe with pixel peeping rarely appears in prints.

I think the X100T has two disadvantages compared to the F and V. Color signal-to-noise ratio in low light and significantly less cropping flexibility in post-production. This is not a camera for people who prefer to compose by cropping during post-production rendering instead of optimizing composition in real time before pressing the shutter. (Which brings us back to the advantage of having an OVF).

Nice info but that’s not the camera been asked about , we are talking about the xt100 a budget model .

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Fz2000user uk Senior Member • Posts: 1,509
Re: Fujifilm xt100 still good ?

mrkarisma wrote:

zakaria wrote:

Hello .. I would like to ask a question to those who own the XT100 and use other types of Fujifilm such as the XT20. Do you find a big difference in colors rendering and sharpness? I'm not talking about anything other than the Jpeg file. Do you think the XT100 is better? Why am I asking that because I am in the process of buying a new XT100 at a good price. I have an XT3 and I have heard a lot of talk about the traditional Bayer sensors compared to the modified Fuji ones.

I will use the camera for static things and maybe with manual lenses.

If you are going to shoot landscapes and always shoot Raw - get the XT100. If you are going to shoot jpeg only and fast, like street photography - Get the XT20.

The raw files from the XT100 are amazing - but the camera is extremely slow, with a bit shutter lag when pressing the shutter (after the half-press) - the AF is horribly slow. The jpegs are a catastrophy compared to the X-trans sensor jpegs that XT20 produces.

I would go for the XT20 every day of the week.

But there are some of us who actually prefer the jpegs from these bayer sensors over the xtrans sensors. It’s all about taste and subject matter .

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mrkarisma Regular Member • Posts: 131
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But there are some of us who actually prefer the jpegs from these bayer sensors over the xtrans sensors. It’s all about taste and subject matter .

If youre not doing any pp at all to the jpegs and never zoom in, the bayer sensor jpegs are great. But with just a few tweeks to the jpegs like a curve or color correction - they brake apart. The X-trans jpegs can handle at least 3 times more pp without breaking apart (banding, color cracks and seperates asf).

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Arrived
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  • Today I received it .very nice camera similar to xe series. I like it so far .

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Fz2000user uk Senior Member • Posts: 1,509
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zakaria wrote:

  • Today I received it .very nice camera similar to xe series. I like it so far .

Yes enjoy, colours are nice , it’s really only the AF that spoils this camera.

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Fz2000user uk wrote:

zakaria wrote:

  • Today I received it .very nice camera similar to xe series. I like it so far .

Yes enjoy, colours are nice , it’s really only the AF that spoils this camera.

I am always  on AF.S single point even with my XT3 .

I tried with 27mm a little beautiful combo for street photography.

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Yes I also stick with AFS, single frame and centre point 😂 even with wildlife. 
 I’ve got the 70-300 and that 27mm is on my list 😁

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Fz2000user uk wrote:

Yes I also stick with AFS, single frame and centre point 😂 even with wildlife.
I’ve got the 70-300 and that 27mm is on my list 😁

Lovely shot of a beautiful bird.

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Fz2000user uk Senior Member • Posts: 1,509
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zakaria wrote:

Fz2000user uk wrote:

Yes I also stick with AFS, single frame and centre point 😂 even with wildlife.
I’ve got the 70-300 and that 27mm is on my list 😁

Lovely shot of a beautiful bird.

thank you , hope you continue to enjoy this humble Fuji as much as I do

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