DPReview.com is closing April 10th - Find out more

R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?

Started 1 month ago | Discussions
kentmcpherson Regular Member • Posts: 157
R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?

I recently purchased a Canon R5 and RF100-500mm lens. I am mostly into bird photography and am wondering if there are others with practical experience adding either Canon’s 1.4 or 2.0 teleconverter and how it worked.

Thanks!

Canon EOS R5
If you believe there are incorrect tags, please send us this post using our feedback form.
Abbott Schindler Veteran Member • Posts: 3,099
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?

I use the combination with a 2X pretty often. Two drawbacks with the 2x: the 100-500 becomes an f/14 lens, so lighting can be challenging. The other is that the image softens a tad, which is to be expected with 2X. I see a very slight AF slowdown, but it's easy to manage.

I find the combination useful for perched birds; not so much for in-flight. The main reason is that I'm not good enough to keep a relatively close-in flying bird in the FoV (1000mm FL has a pretty tight FoV for birds close enough to not be bothered by atmospheric shimmer).

My biggest gripe about the RF 100-500 is that it's got to be racked out to 600mm or more just to install the TC, which is both inconvenient, makes for a very long piece to carry around, and severely limits FL.

If you need that kind of FL, your choices are pretty narrow. I personally don't get enough use to justify the RF 600 f/4L, and I sure don't want to lug that lens on hikes.

axlotl Senior Member • Posts: 2,273
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
1

kentmcpherson wrote:

I recently purchased a Canon R5 and RF100-500mm lens. I am mostly into bird photography and am wondering if there are others with practical experience adding either Canon’s 1.4 or 2.0 teleconverter and how it worked.

Thanks!

I have the 1.4x extender.  My tests show that on the R5 this gives a small increase in image detail compared to the bare lens cropped. The difference is detectable but subtle.

I find the 1.4x extender works decently well for birds perched but I take it off for BIF.

There are some Youtube videos by users reporting they find no benefit to the extender and have stopped using it.

If you do not already have the extender I suggest spending time with the bare lens on the R5 and see how you go.

The extender is a nuisance. The lens must be zoomed out to 300mm before the extender can be mounted. Now the lens+camera combination is quite long.

The LowePro ProTactic TLZ 75 AW 2 can hold the lens with both the extender and camera body mounted.

Andrew

R2D2 Forum Pro • Posts: 26,531
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
2

kentmcpherson wrote:

I recently purchased a Canon R5 and RF100-500mm lens. I am mostly into bird photography and am wondering if there are others with practical experience adding either Canon’s 1.4 or 2.0 teleconverter and how it worked.

Thanks!

My RF 1.4x has lived on my RF 100-500 (on the R5) for 2 1/2 years.  Excellent image quality and autofocus.  Highly recommend this combo (along with RAW and DxO PL6).

As mentioned, the only down-side is that you can't back off the zoom, but I just treat it like a 420-700mm zoom.

A few pics in this earlier thread...

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66810397

R2

-- hide signature --

Good judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgment.
http://www.pbase.com/jekyll_and_hyde/galleries

 R2D2's gear list:R2D2's gear list
Canon EOS M6 Canon EOS M6 II Canon EOS R5 Canon EOS R6 Canon EOS R7 +1 more
CameraCarl Veteran Member • Posts: 9,193
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
2

I use the RF 1.4x all the time. It works fine. I find the images are excellent. Some folks complain about the zoom range limitation, but I don't find it to be an issue for bird photography.

Franz Kerschbaum
Franz Kerschbaum Senior Member • Posts: 1,242
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
3

I fully support the reports from the last two posters. The RF1,4x is just as good as it gets on both my R5 and R7. I see a significant gain in object detail (pixel per bird) and no relevant disadvantages. For BIF you have to practise but that is not the fault of the combo but the reduced field of view that comes with such long FL. The RF2x is more for static applications on tripod from my testing. But again: you get significant extra detail even on the high pixel density R7. That is especially evident from moon shoots!

R7+RF2x+RF100-500 copied from my fb page because I am traveling and have no access to the original file...

 Franz Kerschbaum's gear list:Franz Kerschbaum's gear list
Canon EOS 5D Mark II Canon EOS 7D Mark II Canon EOS M6 Canon EOS Ra Canon EOS R5 +30 more
Kokopelli_Rocks
Kokopelli_Rocks Veteran Member • Posts: 3,661
I have both
3

kentmcpherson wrote:

I recently purchased a Canon R5 and RF100-500mm lens. I am mostly into bird photography and am wondering if there are others with practical experience adding either Canon’s 1.4 or 2.0 teleconverter and how it worked.

Thanks!

I bought the 1.4x at the time I bought my RF 100-500 about a year ago. I was so impressed with the combo that I decided to buy the 2.x last summer. This is the only 2.x TC I have ever liked in my 40+ years of doing photography. I am very happy with both extenders, I find almost no impact when using the 1.4x and I like t he 2.x option when I need to go longer.  I have also used the 1.4x on my RF 800 f11 with good results.

-- hide signature --
 Kokopelli_Rocks's gear list:Kokopelli_Rocks's gear list
Canon EOS R5 Canon EF 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM Sigma 14mm F1.8 Art Canon RF 24-105mm F4L IS USM Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM +15 more
Bramble9 Regular Member • Posts: 211
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
2

I like the the 1.4 xTC with the 100-500L on R7 for moon shooting on a good solid tripod, but being an old dog can't hand hold it for bird shooting.   The R7, with it's built-in 1.6 crop factor works great w/ the 100-500L and I prefer it to the R5 for static bird shooting from a rest-- well, up to ISO 1600 only.

Bramble9

 Bramble9's gear list:Bramble9's gear list
Canon EOS R5 Canon EOS R7 Canon RF 24-105mm F4L IS USM Canon RF 100-500mm F4.5-7.1L IS USM Canon RF 14-35mm F4L IS USM +1 more
Franz Kerschbaum
Franz Kerschbaum Senior Member • Posts: 1,242
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
3

Moon 100% crop from a R7+RF2x+RF100-500 pic last night.

 Franz Kerschbaum's gear list:Franz Kerschbaum's gear list
Canon EOS 5D Mark II Canon EOS 7D Mark II Canon EOS M6 Canon EOS Ra Canon EOS R5 +30 more
dmanthree
dmanthree Forum Pro • Posts: 10,302
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?

i've shot surfing using that combo and the results are excellent. There is a speed penalty, of course, but it's an excellent combo. One gotcha; the TC limits the focal length range usable on the lens due to physical constrictions. but AF works just as good as the lens by itself (or so it seemed to me).

-- hide signature --

---on the cutting edge---

Neil Schofield Contributing Member • Posts: 744
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
2

An alternative option to consider would be to buy the 800mm f11 instead of the 1.4TC as the prices may be similar depending on source and if you want longer then the 2xTC

Whilst I have no experience using a R5 as I use a R3 and both TCs work really well can and lock on and track drinking swifts and swallows in flight producing sequences in focus, that said, the 100-500 is the only lens I have adjusted focal length for in order to open up the aperture

I find that the 2XTC usually requires one more notch of sharpening in DPP4 than the lens native or with 1.4

Emile15 Senior Member • Posts: 1,768
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?

Abbott Schindler wrote:

My biggest gripe about the RF 100-500 is that it's got to be racked out to 600mm or more just to install the TC, which is both inconvenient, makes for a very long piece to carry around, and severely limits FL.

This is one of the reasons why I switch to the R7 when I need more reach.

 Emile15's gear list:Emile15's gear list
Fujifilm X100T Fujifilm X-T4 Canon EOS R5 Canon EOS R7 Fujifilm XF 55-200mm F3.5-4.8 R LM OIS +12 more
jim mij Senior Member • Posts: 1,036
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?

Nice shots Neil, you should post them in the nature forum

-- hide signature --

Jim

 jim mij's gear list:jim mij's gear list
Canon EOS M6 II Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM Kenko Teleplus Pro 300 AF 1.4x Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Don_Campbell Veteran Member • Posts: 3,102
Re: R5 & RF100-500mm - experience adding teleconverter?
4

I bought the RF2X along with the RF100-500 fully accepting the limitation of the zoom range for the 2X. I like it a lot. For my purposes the 1.4X was not extending enough for my chosen uses.

I wrote how I made that 2X choice and what I thought were the design criteria used by Canon to make the combination of the R5, RF100-500 and the RF2X which you can read here:  https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/66180309

Since that above post, I have spent many hours waiting for our local Peregrine falcons to fly, taking photos from the close and long distances of the birds standing on the cliffs, with and without the 2X extender on the 100-500. When I compare the images in the computer the 2X extended images at 600-1000mm look a tiny smidge softer and have slightly lower contrast at the adjusted exposure than do the 500mm photos from the native lens. However, the extended images also have more detail as the focal length is increased. In the case of 2X500mm vs 500mm the increased detail is significant.

So, surprise, surprise--increasing the pixel count for the subject can mean significantly greater detail of the subject. Then when you post process the raw images to optimize contrast, color temperature, sharpness and so on and the images from the 2X extender are terrific.

The common statement about extenders and zoom lenses is that extending greater than about 1.4X is not  worth it because of the loss of sharpness. In the case of the R5, RF100-500 and RF2X, my experience is that this is not true.

Don

 Don_Campbell's gear list:Don_Campbell's gear list
Canon EOS 7D Mark II Canon EOS R5 Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 | C Canon RF 100-500mm F4.5-7.1L IS USM
Keyboard shortcuts:
FForum MMy threads