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R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

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David Emery Forum Member • Posts: 60
R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

I do a lot of travel/architectural photography, much of that in the 15-20mm range.  But I also shoot relatively frequently in the zoom range 50-85mm  For me, the EF-S 15-85 has been the lens practically glued to my 60D.  (I also have the Canon 10-18 and a 75-300 zoom.  The latter is usually used for photos of gargoyles )

So if I move to a Canon R-series (thinking about the R7), should I go with the adapter for the EF-S lens?  Any hints from Canon about an R-series equivalent range?

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RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,418
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

David Emery wrote:

I do a lot of travel/architectural photography, much of that in the 15-20mm range. But I also shoot relatively frequently in the zoom range 50-85mm For me, the EF-S 15-85 has been the lens practically glued to my 60D. (I also have the Canon 10-18 and a 75-300 zoom. The latter is usually used for photos of gargoyles )

So if I move to a Canon R-series (thinking about the R7), should I go with the adapter for the EF-S lens? Any hints from Canon about an R-series equivalent range?

18-150. Adapt the 10-18 for now.

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Chuck Gardner
Chuck Gardner Forum Pro • Posts: 10,459
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

I just upgraded from 50D to R6mkII and my EF-S 10-22mm works great with it using the EF-RF adapter so you should have no problems with the EF-S 15-85.  The R6mkII automatically detects it is an EF-S lens and switches to the 1.4 crop factor.

If you plan on shooting video the Meike EF-RF adapter w. VND makes it very easy to adjust exposure when using constant shutter and ISO.

OP David Emery Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

RLight wrote:

18-150. Adapt the 10-18 for now.

I'd lose a lot with that, since I'd guess maybe 1/3 of my shots are 15-20 range.  Plus, of course, I'd be at the absolute edge of the lens, where problems are noticeable even to my eyes.   (I had the previous 17-85 EF-S lens, and noticed the extra 2mm on the wide side was a big gain.)

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Canon EOS 60D Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD Rokinon T-S 24mm F3.5 ED AS UMC Canon EF-S 10-18mm F4.5–5.6 IS STM
Llop Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?
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There are literally 3 RF-S lenses on the market right now, none reaching 15mm at the wide angle.

So it is either adapt EFs, use RF full frame lenses on the R7 (none equivalent to the 15-85), move to a full frame body + kind of similar 24-105mm or wait

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davel33 Senior Member • Posts: 2,974
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

David Emery wrote:

I'd lose a lot with that, since I'd guess maybe 1/3 of my shots are 15-20 range. Plus, of course, I'd be at the absolute edge of the lens, where problems are noticeable even to my eyes. (I had the previous 17-85 EF-S lens, and noticed the extra 2mm on the wide side was a big gain.)

Its help a bunch if you fill out your gear list, how are we going to give a good answer if you don't ???

It took me over two years to replace my EF with RF.  I still have 3 adapters.  The longer you wait the less you will get for you EF stuff and the more RF will cost

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antonio-salieri Regular Member • Posts: 208
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They will probably eventually launch an RF equivalent, but there is no news on that yet.

An RF camera will treat your EF(-S) lens natively, and you get the various mirrorless advantages with those lenses. And the adapter only adds back the space that was there on the DSLR, so mirrorless + adapter + lens isn't any bigger than your old setup.

As another user mentioned, drop-in filter adapters (personally, I have a Kolari one with Kolari and Breakthrough filters) are also available and let you stick filters on any EF(-S) lens. A nice bonus capability if you get that too, though most of the time I just use the regular adapter.

In short... You have the EF-S lenses. They are 100% compatible with the R7 (and they actually work better with it). If you are happy with the EF-S lenses, just keep using them. You could always get a different lens later if you are interested or one intrigues you.

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
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antonio-salieri wrote:

They will probably eventually launch an RF equivalent, but there is no news on that yet.

An RF camera will treat your EF(-S) lens natively, and you get the various mirrorless advantages with those lenses. And the adapter only adds back the space that was there on the DSLR, so mirrorless + adapter + lens isn't any bigger than your old setup.

As another user mentioned, drop-in filter adapters (personally, I have a Kolari one with Kolari and Breakthrough filters) are also available and let you stick filters on any EF(-S) lens. A nice bonus capability if you get that too, though most of the time I just use the regular adapter.

In short... You have the EF-S lenses. They are 100% compatible with the R7 (and they actually work better with it). If you are happy with the EF-S lenses, just keep using them. You could always get a different lens later if you are interested or one intrigues you.

This is definitely the right answer. Definitely go for the adapter and make more of your existing lenses than is possible with a DSLR. I've had an EOS R for four years now and my only RF lenses are those with no EF equivalent. It's still early days for RF mount (and even earlier days for RF-S) so the best is yet to come. Having said that, I don't think the RF-S range will ever be as comprehensive as the EF-S range had to be when full-frame was relatively much more expensive than it is now. And the R7 is a gateway to full-frame lenses which will cry out for a full-frame body...

RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,418
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

David Emery wrote:

RLight wrote:

18-150. Adapt the 10-18 for now.

I'd lose a lot with that, since I'd guess maybe 1/3 of my shots are 15-20 range. Plus, of course, I'd be at the absolute edge of the lens, where problems are noticeable even to my eyes. (I had the previous 17-85 EF-S lens, and noticed the extra 2mm on the wide side was a big gain.)

There’s no sign from rumor or patent that Canon with replace the 15-85 in a crop format to answer your question. However, you may want to have a hard look at the R8 and it’s 24-50, then. FF though.

Adapting is an option too of course if you’re married to crop glass or crop shooting conditions.

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MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,955
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

EF and EF-S lenses will work just as well on the R7, or any R camera, as the do on your 60D and likely better. I have used the EF-S 15-85mm for many years and it is a great lens from IQ, sharpness, focal range, IS and fast AF. If any EF or EF-S lenses you own meets your needs then buy a R camera and the EF to RF adapter and keep using them.

OP David Emery Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

RLight wrote:

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There’s no sign from rumor or patent that Canon with replace the 15-85 in a crop format to answer your question.

Anyone care to speculate why this seems to be the case? I wouldn't think there was a technical limit on mirrorless that makes ultrawide zooms more difficult to design than for DSLRs.
(I'm still lusting after an R7, but I'm hoping for a price break.)

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Canon EOS 60D Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Tamron SP 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di VC USD Rokinon T-S 24mm F3.5 ED AS UMC Canon EF-S 10-18mm F4.5–5.6 IS STM
antonio-salieri Regular Member • Posts: 208
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

David Emery wrote:

RLight wrote:

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There’s no sign from rumor or patent that Canon with replace the 15-85 in a crop format to answer your question.

Anyone care to speculate why this seems to be the case? I wouldn't think there was a technical limit on mirrorless that makes ultrawide zooms more difficult to design than for DSLRs.
(I'm still lusting after an R7, but I'm hoping for a price break.)

Of course it isn't any more difficult. Any DSLR design is a valid mirrorless design.

The real reason why it doesn't exist is because there isn't enough demand to make it a priority yet. Of course, you can use the current 15-85 in the meantime, if you want that.

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David Yule Regular Member • Posts: 318
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

I'm guessing it's easier/quicker for Canon to manufacture RF-S lenses based on EF-M lenses rather than on EF-S lenses.

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MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,955
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

David Emery wrote:

RLight wrote:

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There’s no sign from rumor or patent that Canon with replace the 15-85 in a crop format to answer your question.

Anyone care to speculate why this seems to be the case? I wouldn't think there was a technical limit on mirrorless that makes ultrawide zooms more difficult to design than for DSLRs.
(I'm still lusting after an R7, but I'm hoping for a price break.)

The two upscale EF-S lenses Canon offered (EF-S 17-55mm and EF-S 15-85mm) were not big sellers so I doubt Canon will offer similar lenses in the RF-S mount for this reason alone.  Also, higher end RF-S lenses will take away from FF RF lens sales.  So considering these two negatives I don't think there will be any high end RF-S lenses.  Also, as time passes, smartphones are continuing to nibble away at MFT, P&S and APS-C camera sales.  As a case in point, I just bought a M200 in December and an S23 Ultra in February.  The S23 Ultra pretty much replaced the M200 for my use case.  I think as time passes ILC makers will be down to selling only FF cameras due to the continual growth of smartphone capabilities.  This is another reason why Canon might not invest in higher end RF-S lenses.

RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,418
Re: R-series equivalent to EF-S 15-85?

David Emery wrote:

RLight wrote:

...

There’s no sign from rumor or patent that Canon with replace the 15-85 in a crop format to answer your question.

Anyone care to speculate why this seems to be the case? I wouldn't think there was a technical limit on mirrorless that makes ultrawide zooms more difficult to design than for DSLRs.
(I'm still lusting after an R7, but I'm hoping for a price break.)

There’s not a technical limit. Just no desire by Canon. The only answer I have is perhaps they consider zoom lenses that start at 24mm, a luxury, and reserve them for luxury offerings, think L, FF, G series power shots. Canon broke with that with the EF-M 15-45, but that’s it. Perhaps that was to counter competition, which APS-C competitors right now consist of Fuji, which the R8 has pretty much silenced.

If you must have a zoom that starts at 24? R8, or M, or Fuji. Sonys rumored to be up to something with crop shortly. We’ll see…

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